POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country?

where is the book that the establishment went to? Hahaha xDDDDD

Ok I think I've had enough of you for tonight, anyway... thanks for making me laugh, GN ;-)

Is it Rome... or Warsaw?

Poland is eastern, central and western.

Geographically, it's in Central Europe.

Culturally, it's both eastern and western. Eastern because it's Slavic. Western because it's historically been rather more Catholic than Eastern Orthodox.

Linguistically, it's eastern because its language is from a family that has dominated in Eastern Europe.

By whom? By you? :)


Jon, just because you say you're right it doesn't make you right ;)
Do you know why I proposed architecture for the topic of our discussion? Because I've spent 5 years studying history of art and architecture, I've graduated from an art school with top marks and I've visited some countries in Western and Central Europe for the sole purpose of sightseeing, so I have some idea about what I'm writing.

Poland had all the Western styles of architecture. From Romanesque architecture to Art Nouveau - have your pick.
Now, which of the Western architecture styles can you find in Russia?


I have a dry eye syndrome resulting from Sjögren's syndrome. So, no, it's not laziness... I'm a bit disadvantaged in the terms of reading, you see. If I could, I would read the whole thread. It's not always easy to admit to your weaknesses :) Taking part in this discussion is already a challenge...


No, it doesn't.

Why won't he just post the page number?

That would be nice ;)

I think that the silence means that he declined the challenge.
I hate when people prentend to be smarter than others but when ask for details they dissapear.

We'll see.


Yeah, I hate that too ;)

Perhaps because there's no challenge to decline. Instead, you may find it useful to read the whole of the thread that you're posting on. You may find plenty of interest, though I suspect you will disagree with much of it.

I've just scroll whole thread and didn't find any pictures of Eastern european architecture. Actually there were no pictures of any kind of architecture. Where are they then?

Jon, which of the Western architecture styles can you find in Russia?

Who said there were such pictures?

Strange. You might find it more interesting to read rather than 'scroll' the thread.


Most of them, Paulina. That doesn't make a masterpiece typical,though, does it?

Are you silly? I found my own posts that I posted 2 years ago. I've already read it back then and it's all the same talk repeated constantly.


If an eastern type vernacular architecture is popular in Poland then post a picture. You should not have a problem with that, should you?
What's the problem in typing into the searcher "vernacular architecture of Poland"?

Really? Romanesque? Gothic? Renaissance? Could you show or name examples?


I'm not sure what you mean?

Most of what? You mean that you can find all types of western historical architecture in Russia?I presume you are not talking about later copies.

Anyway jon Poland is an Eastern European country (except geographically)but not for those reasons you mentioned.

And as you probably understand, jon357, I don't mean that tiny patch of Russian territory that is called Kaliningrad nowadays ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nigsberg_Cathedral

OK, that's it for today, good night :)

Pleased to hear it, not that it makes the slightest different either way.


Indeed it is, for many reasons - culture, cuisine, economics, etc.

How a country can be Eastern in regard to economics ? You mean it's poor ? So once we get ahead of Portugal (which should happen within 5 years), Portugal will be Eastern then ?

Different? You mean "difference"? It doesn't make the slightest difference concerning what?


You keep repeating that over and over again, but you're not able to prove it or at least explain what you mean.
What is Eastern about Polish culture?
Art and architecture are elements of culture.
I was asking you what is Eastern about Polish architecture. You weren't able to answer that question.
To make it easier for you I've asked you which of the Western architecture styles you can find in Russia.
Your answer was: "Most of them".
So, what are those "most of Western architecture styles" in Russia? Do you even have the slightest idea what you're writing about?


LOL Exactly :)

So after over five years of deep contemplation the answer is still out there somewhere?

If anybody's interested I stand by answer from way back then.

Of course, he exactly knows what is he writing about........ NOT!!

You are not giving any arguments, it is just merry go around of your stubbornness.

Funny thing is that he ignores the links i posted to educate him, and instead continues to fool around about Poland being some kinda russia.

Has jon clarified the terms: "Europe of Squirrels" and "Europe of Rabbits"? Whenever i put it in search engine "Europe of Squirrels" I have only one result: this thread :)

"Europe of Rabbits" has 4 results, again 1 is polishforums, 3 are some sites about diseases among species or something...

Both European squirrel and European inhabit in Poland.

Could jon, please, clarify what he meant? I ask about it out of interest.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4489792.stm

Ironside

???
Am I slow or what?

No I'm just kidding! See the link where Russian squirrels kill a dog.
I guess that it was jon's metaphor for areas of woodlands and areas of predominant meadows and pastures. If so he is wrong but honestly I don't know what he wanted to say.

He wanted to say that those black Russian dog killing squirrels are in Poland too. xDDD
And indeed they obviously are, cause like Russia Poland is in Eastern Europe..... NOT!!

One of the differences between East European and Central European culture/tradition is the fact that Eastern Europeans start celebrating Christmas today! It's because Orthodox Churches follow the Julian calendar: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar

We follow the Gregorian calendar: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar


The Julian calendar is much older than the Gregorian, it was used in the first centuries of Christianity.

Orthodox Christians during Christmas Eve supper share prosphora instead of Christmas wafer: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosphora

According to Wikipedia Christmas wafer originated in Poland and is used only in Central Europe: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_wafer

So, for Orthodox Christians the New Year is still to come! Russians celebrate the New Year twice! :D

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_New_Year

And something that is completely weird for Poles - Russians have Christmas tree and they exchange presents on the New Year!:

Btw, there's about 550-600 000 Orthodox Christians in Poland.

In case there are any Orthodox Christians on this forum from whichever country, I wish you:
С Рождеством Христовым!
Wesołych Świąt!
Merry Christmas!
:)))

Still cant let it go, ehh?
Now you only need to convince everybody on how language and ethnicity wise Poland belongs to the West and you are ready to start the New Year as the epicenter of the world.

A hint: Lead with the alphabet, continue with German, French and even English loan words and culminate how Poland was in space.