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POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country?


Seanus 15 | 19,706
10 Feb 2008 #301
See, it's easy to be critical and offensive. The truth is, I like many aspects of living in Poland and u go and make a blanket statement like 'go home'. Through energy and hard work, I have helped many Poles to speak English better. Is that so bad? OK, Mandarin has more native speakers but English is probably the most used 'middle language' between the people of the world who don't have it as their L1. Try targetting/honing ur focus a little rjeden or r u anti-Scottish?
rjeden - | 29
10 Feb 2008 #302
Welcome to the forums rjeden.

Hello szkotja207
Seanus 15 | 19,706
10 Feb 2008 #303
The Scots and Poles have a very good relationship for the most part, why jeopardise that? We are picts through descent and u r slavs but we are alike in many ways. We welcomed u with open arms at both the govt level and employment level. A little acknowledgment wouldn't go amiss.
OP Polson 5 | 1,771
10 Feb 2008 #304
the scots are nordic

So you don't even know the identity and origin of your own ethnic group?

Noimmi still strongly believes in Daddy Addie's theories (Hitler). By Nordic, he means "perfect", while by Slavic he means "undermen". He identifies himself as a perfect man (yeah it seems incredible!), and really enjoys insulting toilet cleaners, all supposed to be Polish (and Slavs in an extend meaning)... But Scots aren't Nordic.
z_darius 14 | 3,968
10 Feb 2008 #305
enjoys insulting toilet cleaners

He must be afraid there won't be any jobs left for him after he's done with his studies.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
10 Feb 2008 #306
Good point Darius, study is study and work is work.
noimmigration
10 Feb 2008 #307
But Scots aren't Nordic

what are we then ?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
10 Feb 2008 #308
Picts, or so historians tell us
Seanus 15 | 19,706
10 Feb 2008 #310
Mixed alpine, yeah, a bit of snowboarding and a bit of skiing is what we like. Good old alpine sports
Dublinjohn - | 38
13 Feb 2008 #311
Is the option Poland are commies (east Europe) or capitalists (central Europe)?
It could be Poland is in transition. Things do change, or so I have been informed.

Scot are celts,Nordic, Norman mix.

what are we then ?

impamiiz - | 13
18 Feb 2008 #312
The general trend is, Poles say "we're in central Europe" but the truth is the vast majority of people who are not from there will most certainly consider it an "Eastern European" country.

When the immigration debate was raging in the UK (really don't want to start anything on THAT up, but it's really the only time when Poland was discussed in the media at all), most of the immigrants were from Poland, and were included in the "Eastern European immigrants" category.
Dzhaklin 3 | 166
21 Feb 2008 #313
Hopefully one day being Eastern European will not have such a negative connotation...
Seanus 15 | 19,706
21 Feb 2008 #314
Well said Dzhaklin, labels are damaging
EbonyandBathory 5 | 249
21 Feb 2008 #315
Eastern Europe shouldn't have a negative connotation, I agree. But if you look at a map, it's clear to me, Poland is in CENTRAL EUROPE. I know political situations have associated it with the east, but it seems central to me.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274
21 Feb 2008 #316
I've always known and been told Poland is Eastern European, when ever i talk about it i refer to it as 'Eastern European' even if i am wrong in this its just my natural reaction to talking about Poland.

Being from the West of Europe anyway everything is East to us :)

Hopefully one day being Eastern European will not have such a negative connotation...

what do you mean negative connotation, how is been Eastern European negative??
Dice 15 | 452
21 Feb 2008 #317
To many people are getting hanged up on the semantics. It is what it is, no matter what you would like it to be. And it is an Eastern European Country. Now I understand the reason why you want to call it something else, there is a bad wrap attached to the name "Eastern European" (unfortunately) but it is up to us to make it something better and make POLAND it's own name brand and to make sure that people think about positive things when they hear the word 'POLAND'.

It is far more important how YOU carry yourself, how educated and successful are YOU in your life and carrier, what kind of job or business do YOU have now, are YOU a blue collar or white collar worker, do people look at YOU with respect. This is the way you build a good reputation for Poland and not by arguing endlessly about "is it East or Central". You need to start from yourself.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
21 Feb 2008 #318
Linked with failed communism and backward policies I guess. Borne out of prejudice one would surmise
Dzhaklin 3 | 166
21 Feb 2008 #319
what do you mean negative connotation, how is been Eastern European negative??

Read some of the earlier post.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274
21 Feb 2008 #320
Linked with failed communism and backward policies I guess. Borne out of prejudice one would surmise

thanks for the quick explanation.

Read some of the earlier post.

i know sometimes i suffer from being lazy and not reading all of the posts, i'm sorry but it just happens :)
El Gato 4 | 351
21 Feb 2008 #321
Poles are part of the Western branch of Slavs, and considered Eastern by people in the west, so it evens out and makes us Central European...

:]
finT 12 | 167
22 Feb 2008 #322
At a meeting yesterday Poland was referred to as "Russia Lite". I thought that was quite a funny and apt description but then again that was my mood yesterday!
Magdalena 3 | 1,837
22 Feb 2008 #323
A veeery old joke (probably pre-WW2):

There is a guy travelling from France to Russia, and another going the opposite way. Yet they both get off their trains in Warsaw. Why?

The first one thought he was in Moscow already, the other one thought that this had to be Paris.

So "central" would be my guess, yes.
OP Polson 5 | 1,771
22 Feb 2008 #324
Good guess Magda ;) LoL
Mario - | 2
22 Feb 2008 #325
you all would probably agree that the eastern border of Europe is on Ural mountains.
Bear it in mind Poland could be considered even as Westrn Europe, but I preffer to call it Central Europe.
F15guy 1 | 160
27 Apr 2008 #326
Michal: That is why in 1945, Europe was saved by the Russians, almost single handedly.

I think had the UK made peace with Germany after the fall of Paris, Russia would have been forced into a stalemate with German occupying Russia west of Urals. Interesting fiction book called Fatherland covers such a line.
Frank 23 | 1,183
27 Apr 2008 #327
Michal: That is why in 1945, Europe was saved by the Russians, almost single handedly.

"Saved"...?...emmmmm no...the Russians/Soviet empire was indeed just as evil as the German empire to be..............both were vying for as much control of Europe as possible....their bankrupt and genocidal policies the most damaging in the entire history of mankind..the blackest period possible imaginable.
kingkong1 - | 27
29 Apr 2008 #328
Geographically Poland is central. The name's "Western Europe" and "Eastern Europe", are highly politicized words, which simply subsituted for the phrases "good guys" and "bad guys", the ruling elite making it simple in laymans terms; a legacy of

I couldnt agree more with Gile. It's the arrogant and,i dare say ignorant elite that dreamt up these silly terms to divide people. High time we got rid. PEACE
DomPolski 7 | 33
30 Apr 2008 #329
EASTERN. All this talk about picking out a pole in a bar full of Germans? ********. I've only met 3 poles with blonde hair. You can pick a slav a mile away.
OP Polson 5 | 1,771
30 Apr 2008 #330
Erm...no. I know some Poles who could be German or French.
Only 3 Poles with blond hair ?... wow, bad luck ;)


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