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How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer


call1n  2 | 192
27 Jul 2020   #211
The first objective is to put Polish into Ukrainian schools. Let the Ukrainians speak Polish.
I have insider info, the entire EU is going to fall. The only country in the EU that Poland can trust is Lithuania. Let all those places fall on their face, they will all ask to join Poland and the only one that we say 'yes' to is Lithuania. A Polanified Ukraine, and Lithuania - the rest is history.

This is Polish Forums - this I command!
Crow  154 | 9272
27 Jul 2020   #212
Let all those places fall on their face

True. In turmoil that will occur after fall of EU, they will fall in the hands of Poland. Visegrad will follow. If Poland is wise. Same is with Serbia and countries of former Yugoslavia and even plus some more countries. It started to happen.

A Polanified Ukraine, and Lithuania - the rest is history.

Dobri brate, why not be realistic. Be satisfied with western Ukraine. Plus, all that what we mentioned above and plus when Germany started to crumble and it will considering their suicidal policy.
call1n  2 | 192
28 Jul 2020   #213
Be satisfied with western Ukraine

I am not satisfied with western Ukraine. I want Lithuania too. Trust me I do not bite off more than I can too. Once it is shown the EU is toast, she will join up with Poland again.
jon357  73 | 23033
28 Jul 2020   #214
I am not satisfied with western Ukraine. I want Lithuania too.

You don't get to choose.

Once it is shown the EU is toast,

The opposite is true.
Vlad1234  16 | 883
28 Jul 2020   #215
The first objective is to put Polish into Ukrainian schools.

Not a worst idea. I've heard Polish courses started to gain popularity even in some provincial Ukrainian cities. But in every secondary school... Ukrainians need some sound reason for this.
pawian  221 | 25160
6 Aug 2024   #216
In 1944 Germans tried to encourage Polish men in occupied part of Poland to join the auxiliary units supporting the German army. They hoped that 150 thousand Poles would volunteer.

A very good article on the subject

onet.pl/informacje/wielka-historia2/175-tys-polakow-u-boku-wehrmachtu-taki-plan-mieli-niemcy-w-1944-r/ph69k4w,30bc1058

(...) the appeals addressed to Poles brought no response in Krakow, its surroundings, or in the entire General Government. By November 25, 321 "volunteers" had been recruited, and by the end of the year - 471.

The Germans not only did not accept this state of affairs, but also... denied the facts. In their opinion, as many as 9,000 volunteers showed up at the recruitment points! On paper, the recruitment rate actually looked good. How is that possible? The answer is surprisingly simple. Registration of candidates began with the number five thousand. In addition, some of the "volunteers" were probably prisoners released in exchange for joining a collaborationist formation.



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johnny reb  47 | 7629
1 Sep 2024   #217
Polish leaders attended ceremonies on opposite sides of the country, marking Nazi Germany's invasion in 1939. President Duda restated his call for Berlin to make war reparations to Warsaw, Poland's leaders on Sunday stressed the need for a strong defense in the face of war in neighboring Ukraine as they led solemn ceremonies to mark the 85th anniversary of Nazi Germany's invasion of Poland, starting World War II.
Novichok  5 | 7725
1 Sep 2024   #218
It's not your fault but when I read "Nazi Germany" I know that it comes from Western apologists.

As if there were two Germanys: Nazi Germany and - by implication - Good Germany.

Even the USSR under Stalin is never referred to as Communist Soviets as opposed to Good Soviets.

We just lump them all into the Soviets to insinuate that they were all bad. We are a lot gentler with our new German friends.

Hence: "Nazi Germany" as if being a Nazi was an immutable character trait.

The ultimate of this linguistic perversion would be:

On Sept 1, 1939, Nazis attacked Poland. Meaning: The good Germans stayed home.
Paulina  16 | 4338
1 Sep 2024   #219
@Novichok, the Soviet Union was comprised of different nations and ethnicities and that's why they're called collectively "Soviets". Nazi Germany was a one-nation state comprising of Germans. Nazi Germany is simply a colloquial name for the German Reich (later the Greater German Reich). Another unofficial name is the Third Reich.

We just lump them all into the Soviets to insinuate that they were all bad. We are a lot gentler with our new German friends.

Nonsense. First of all, in the Soviet Union there were conquered nations that didn't want to be part of the Soviet Union at all. Secondly, unlike in Germany where Hitler was voted into power, communists weren't voted in - they took power by force. That's why in Poland ordinary people living in the Soviet Union were viewed as victims of the regime.

On Sept 1, 1939, Nazis attacked Poland.

That's what we often say in Poland even though maybe not all of the German soldiers were followers of Hitler. Many of them deserved to be called "Nazis" though - because of what they did during the invasion of Poland, during the occupation and during the Warsaw Uprising.


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