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How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer

German George    
15 Dec 2015  #181

I think like Hitler. Polelock are better than other Slavic people Polelock have a higher value to the survival of the white race in this day and age Polelock may not be a smart but their head is not up there ass as with the average German today some idea of perfection over engineering things that are not allowed to live my uncle in law has a Motorhome that he hardly uses and thinkks it will live forever so he won't let me use it that is an example of German mentality

Roger5 2 | 1,476    
15 Dec 2015  #182

Your uncle is a wise man not to allow you to operate machinery. If you are representative of the Master Race, perhaps its demise is inevitable.
gregy741 3 | 1,148    
15 Dec 2015  #183

At the time of Hitler's offer, Poland faced 3 options

D) surrender and dont get involved in this Czechs did.
fok it..drop weapons,give germans sandwiches on way and point them east wishing alot of fun ...get popcorn ready.
Crow 145 | 6,909    
15 Dec 2015  #184

If Poland didn`t oppose to Hitler (not with him, nor against him):

* Casualties in lives of ethnic Poles in WWII would be less but, Poland would have greater casualties inflicted by Soviets, at the end of WWII and even later

* Poland wouldn`t lose its Jewish population
* After WWII, Poland would face partition. Internal antagonisms in Poland, among Poles themselves, would create two strong factions. One would suggest solidarity with Russians (Soviets) over Slavic connection and, on the other side, other faction would force resistance to communism. Even if wasn`t directly involved in WWII, let`s say by some miracle, all the time would Polish society face this dilemma- Slavic solidarity with Russians or/and fight against them due to communism and historical animosity.

* ultimately, two Polish states would be formed, comparable to Western and Eastern Germany.
* Western Poland would be stricty monitored by western Europe and would be among founding states of EU
* Eastern Poland would unite with Western Poland and united Polish state formed, same way as it was case with Germany
* Considering old and newer history and having in mind truly strong Jewish element (for sure more then 4 millions) in that new Polish state anti Russian feelings would be much stronger then in today`s Polish state. In fact, Poland would absolutely belong to western Europe. If we say that today`s Poland have chance to resist to assimilation by western Europe (if nothings change dramatically) maximally about 100 years, that hypothetical Poland (of which we talk here) would have less then 50 years of capacity to resist to assimilation by western Europe and, with it to stop to be considered as Slavic.

* In our time, considering global today`s mega trends, most probably that would rift within Polish society arise to the maximum (as i mentioned- over division Western/Eastern Poland/strong Jewish element) and it is quite possible that would, as consequence, Poland face another partition but this time not on two but on at least three or four states. Two main territories would be Polish (Western and Eastern Poland) then, one territory would be declared to be Jewish European state and Silesia would secede (only eventually Silesia wouldn`t secede from Western Poland due to strong support of western Europe and USA to Western Polish state).

* i wouldn`t exclude possibility of Civil War within Western Poland, when would assimilated Poles tries to deal with still stubborn Slavic Poles that remained living in Western Poland. As result, Slavic Poles would be forced to go to Eastern Poland as refugees and eventually final border between Western/Eastern Poland would be formed.

* As a result, all what would (in this hypothetical scenario, 50 years in future) become part of Western Poland, Jewish European state and (?) Silesia, would entirely lose any connection with belonging to Slavic world. Only Eastern Poland would remain Slavic. Actually, with time would Eastern Poland remain only named as Poland (so, that hypothetical Polish state would be smaller then it is today in our reality). Rest would acquire some other name, to even with it cut all ties with its Slavic past.

* But, as i contemplate, what is interesting, that hypothetical Poland (what remain of Poles) would eventually (due to historical experience) have bigger capacity to initiate formation of Intermarium, then it is case with today`s Poland (from our reality).

* Intermarium would be created
Stupid 'Murican    
15 Feb 2016  #185

Pierogi: "Why wasn't USA held accountable for ....... their death camps of 1.5 Million Germans who were starved to death?"

lol, where did you get this fantasy?
TheOther 5 | 3,494    
16 Feb 2016  #186

where did you get this fantasy?

Maybe he read about the Morgenthau Plan?
gregy741 3 | 1,148    
16 Feb 2016  #187

or Eisenhower camps
10 Feb 2017  #188

Pretty interesting scenario. I am not sure and i don't want to offend. But so many posts here are so Marxist in nature. all these Marxist associated schools of thought divided into social sciences. Sociology, based on control philosophy doctrines of their own creations. Getting everyone to run in circles to lose ones own thoughts. Trying to destroy our minds and ideas, that's what communism is and that's what everyone lives under right now.Capitalism is the other side of the same coin.

If Poland didn`t oppose to Hitler (not with him, nor against him)

In 1939. Hitler Would have either ordered the greatest military in Europe to march right through Belgium into France with the ferocity never before seen on this earth.(Btw this is exactly what France did) Or in which case the second scenario is if Polska accepted to Hitlers offer of " Dajcie mi Polską piechotę, a zdobęde cały świat" then the Polish Cavalry would be leading the Wehrmacht into Moskwa.

Im not sure how many people here are actually polish but it seems like no one really knows about our Polska. "Naród wspaniały, tylko ludzie k**wy" - Józef Piłsudski. Has anyone even read about our heros? The war we were dragged into by the lies and special interest of those who have taken control of all our countries as of now. Do people Know that Poland was attacked from 4 fronts? Germany, Prussia, Czecho-Słowacja and Russia. And our boys Still held of for a month (unlike the French) if it wasn't for the complete incompetence of our Marshal Rydz-Śmigły the September Campaign would have gone on for maybe another month because of our incredible soldiers, officers, generals and our people. My greatgrandad fighting in the Battle of the Bzura as an Artillery captain. The only reason im here today is because he lead several regiments, including his own to German POW instead of Bolshevik. I'm proud to have heard his stories passed down to me.

As for history how it played out. Even Sir Hugh Downing, Commander of the RAF during the Battle of Britain said "Had it not been for the magnificent material contributed by the Polish squadrons and their unsurpassed gallantry. I hesitate to say that the outcome of the battle would have been the same".

As a thank you, even during the London Victory Celebrations of 1946 . Every nation fighting against the Germans was invited. But not us Polaks. Yeah, our Polish Fighter Squadron 303 was invited. But they refused to participate. Because there is something that you can't buy and you can't create. I TĄ RZECZĄ JEST HONOR!

History is not as it seems, it is of course written by the victor. And Europe lost.

The truth fears no investigation.


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