I bet she knew exactly what that pos was doing.
Why didn't Britain declare war on USSR for invading Poland in 1939?
You mean you WANT to believe.
I don't believe it. I know it. Does your wife know what you do for a living? Mine, too.
So then you DO believe Ethel was innocent?
Doesn't everyone?
Well, Martin Sobel (name might be wrong)accused along with the Rosenbergs, didn't think she was innocent.
didn't think she was innocent.
Not quite:
"Coupled with some of that grand jury testimony, Mr. Sobell's admission bolsters what has become a widely held view among scholars: that Mr. Rosenberg was, indeed, guilty of spying, but that his wife was at most a bit player in the conspiracy and may have been framed by complicit prosecutors."
nytimes.com/2008/09/12/nyregion/12spy.html
It's all a long leap away from the events in Europe at the start of WW2. How did this thread get on to 1950s spy scandals?
I should've searched before piping off.
Morton Sobell. According to the articles below Sobell implicated Ethel knowing what was going on, but says her involvement was exaggerated.
washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/morton-sobell-convicted-in-rosenberg-atomic-bomb-spy-trial-dies-at-101/2019/01/30/4ae88196-24d7-11e9-90cd-dedb0c92dc17_story.html
nytimes.com/2008/09/12/nyregion/12spy.html
So,
Agreed.
Uhhhh...because it's PF.
Morton Sobell. According to the articles below Sobell implicated Ethel knowing what was going on, but says her involvement was exaggerated.
washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/morton-sobell-convicted-in-rosenberg-atomic-bomb-spy-trial-dies-at-101/2019/01/30/4ae88196-24d7-11e9-90cd-dedb0c92dc17_story.html
nytimes.com/2008/09/12/nyregion/12spy.html
So,
Not quite:
Agreed.
How did this thread get on to 1950s spy scandals?
Uhhhh...because it's PF.
Didn't Greenglass turn Ethel in?
The only debate today can be if the death penalty was too much, not her guilt. Many US presidents had a chance to exonerate the bit*ch and didn't.
The US had a lot more evidence than it needed to convict this Jewish slime. It was not presented for security reasons since the trial was public.
The death penalty is the only appropriate penalty for domestic spies. We should practice it the way others do. Pollard, another Jewish pos traitor, should have been executed a long time ago. If at least he spied for Isreal out of the conviction that he was doing the right thing... But that is not what Jews do. Quoting:
Prosecutors said while serving as a Navy analyst in the mid-1980s and handling classified material, Pollard made contact with an Israeli intelligence agent in New York and began funneling suitcases full of U.S. secrets to Israel in exchange for gifts and tens of thousands of dollars.
I rest my case. Sure, Ethel didn't spy...Right...
The US had a lot more evidence than it needed to convict this Jewish slime. It was not presented for security reasons since the trial was public.
The death penalty is the only appropriate penalty for domestic spies. We should practice it the way others do. Pollard, another Jewish pos traitor, should have been executed a long time ago. If at least he spied for Isreal out of the conviction that he was doing the right thing... But that is not what Jews do. Quoting:
Prosecutors said while serving as a Navy analyst in the mid-1980s and handling classified material, Pollard made contact with an Israeli intelligence agent in New York and began funneling suitcases full of U.S. secrets to Israel in exchange for gifts and tens of thousands of dollars.
I rest my case. Sure, Ethel didn't spy...Right...
Jews don't have a monopoly on treason. Often though, they have been Communist rabble-rousers, as the Communist Utopia always
seemed somehow attractive to them....until of course they started becoming "successful"LOL
Even more of a Red-hater than the late Jack Valenti, was none other than the very identifiably Jewish Jack Warner!!
seemed somehow attractive to them....until of course they started becoming "successful"LOL
Even more of a Red-hater than the late Jack Valenti, was none other than the very identifiably Jewish Jack Warner!!
As evasive as ever...The question is why only against Germany?
Now, to get an answer to this question, you need to find a medium who would enable you to discuss it with pre-war politicians` ghosts. Get a medium, a strong table, a few dozen sheets of paper and try to arrange a meeting during which you will learn all their motives.
The medium from the Others
Jews don't have a monopoly on treason.
...but they do on duplicity no other group can match. Isreal, our dear ally, is known to be selling our stuff to the Chinese, spying on the US, and causing damage to the USS Liberty.
they have been Communist rabble-rousers
That was cute. Do you want me to list the names of these rabble-rousers in the USSR and what they doing while rabble-rousing?
Those who didn't understand capitalism, became and remained, Communists! The Aaron Feuersteins of the world, the JEWISH real-life George Bailey, was one in a million.
@ Pawian
😆 You pretty much nailed it.
Then, to be fair, you'll need to list the Jews who have worked to advance liberty, democracy, capitalism, etc.
The broad brush approach is intellectually grotesque. Communism and fascism was a collective effort that ran across all ethnicities. As the fight against those evils ran across all ethnicities.
😆 You pretty much nailed it.
Do you want me to list the names of these rabble-rousers in the USSR
Then, to be fair, you'll need to list the Jews who have worked to advance liberty, democracy, capitalism, etc.
The broad brush approach is intellectually grotesque. Communism and fascism was a collective effort that ran across all ethnicities. As the fight against those evils ran across all ethnicities.
Communism and fascism was a collective effort that ran across all ethnicities.
Nope. In all leftist cases, one group dominates. It's the Jews. Fascism was a counter-reaction to them.
you'll need to list the Jews who have worked to advance liberty,
Every group has its outliers and exceptions. Quoting those to skew the stats is dishonest.
Quoting those to skew the stats is dishonest.
As are over generalizations. Not only are they dishonest, but stultifying perpetuations of simplistic thinking and catalysts of perpetual discord.
Jewish people have plenty to be criticized for, but so does every other group of people. Not any group of people or individual person is above reproach. Problem is when we assign the negative aspects as the only defining aspect to each group. A scapegoat is always much easier to deal with, than the actual complexity of a problem.
Anyhow, Pawian, is on to something regarding answering the question posed by the OP.