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Why do Polish people hate to be called Eastern European?


Rich Mazur 4 | 2,469
7 Feb 2019  #61
Poles should be ecstatic to be known as Eastern Europeans. Western European, just like liberal, is now an insult and stands for everything men should not be.

Who would you rather have to defend your town from barbarians, the French or the Americans? How about Swedes?

Midway through the breakfast I realized that my post above is very offensive. Hence, I want to apologize to the hooligans, skinheads and the neo-nazis. You, guys, don't deserve to be lumped with the gutless, all-is-fine, o la la, "pencil necks".
Fggfggh
7 Feb 2019  #62
What I dont get is why they always have to say they were under zabory instead of being prt of the russian empire. The ukrainians or eblorussians or armenians never say crap like that they all admit they were russia at one point so why dont Polaks?
Lyzko 20 | 6,118
7 Feb 2019  #63
Poles often don't wish to be reminded of their Eastern or Slavic roots, instead, they wish to be associated with Poland as a Westernized democracy. Therefore, many try to stress their "Westernness":-)

That's what I've been told.
Rich Mazur 4 | 2,469
7 Feb 2019  #64
they wish to be associated with Poland as a Westernized democracy.

They soon will wish they never were. Associating with a decomposing body is going to make you smell bad sooner or later.
But, while the welfare checks are coming, why not.
Lyzko 20 | 6,118
7 Feb 2019  #65
For those among us seeking the proverbial "white man's refuge" (if that's your thingLOL), still better in Poland than Germany.
Rich Mazur 4 | 2,469
7 Feb 2019  #66
Why proverbial? Anything wrong without proverbial and without the quotes? Like: seeking white refuge just as blacks demand all-black safe spaces at the American indoctrination camps.
kondzior 8 | 944
8 Feb 2019  #67
What I dont get is why they always have to say they were under zabory instead of being prt of the russian empire.

Because term zabory means each part of the Poland annexed in 1772-95 becoming part of Imperial Russia, Prussia, or Austria.
Ironside 47 | 9,550
8 Feb 2019  #68
Poles often don't wish to be reminded of their Eastern or Slavic roots,

Bah!

One: in school they learned that Poland geographically belongs to the Central Europe - so they want to correct anglophones who generally have a vague idea bout geography.

Two: Eastern for them is assisted with Russia, they don't want to associated with that country. So its bugs them on some level, that feeling it enhanced by the morons who "think" that Poland is a part of Russia and there is no significant differences between those two countries/nations/cultures.

I personally think that because such a term exist due to the cold war heritage it could be wise and smart on the part of the Polish people to make a good use out of it. Like unite the eastern Europe around the three seas area. Cool, eh?

By the way Lyzko I diss you cause you came across as a fake person. All about you screams - fake. No offence.
Lyzko 20 | 6,118
8 Feb 2019  #69
You don't know the meaning of the word "fake" then:-)

On a map, Poland is closer "East" than either Czech Republic or Slovenia etc. Therefore, it's clearly geographically Eastern, rather than Central.
You just love busting my chops, that's all. That means, you enjoy giving certain posters a hard time, arguing non-existent points.
Vlad1234 14 | 530
8 Feb 2019  #70
the morons who "think" that Poland is a part of Russia and there is no significant differences between those two countries/nations/cultures.

I think there are not too many morons who think Poland is part of Russia and there is no significant cultural differences between the two.
Miloslaw 6 | 1,574
8 Feb 2019  #71
Blimey!
I agree with you Vlad!
The gulf is huge....yes,there are some Slavic similarities in outlook, but in the main we are miles apart.
Vlad1234 14 | 530
8 Feb 2019  #72
Well, Polish GDP per capita (PPP) is still more similar to that of Russia than that of Germany, it seems. But due to a flatter income distribution life of an average citizen is more comfortable in Poland, of course.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,161
9 Feb 2019  #73
Gdp or gdp per capita? Russias gdp is far higher than Poland's but gdp per capita is similar to Poland only because it's skewed by the people who live in the cities. You go to the countryside and people there are living like theyre in the 1950s.
Ironside 47 | 9,550
9 Feb 2019  #74
You don't know the meaning of the word "fake" then:-)

Yet I still know when someone put on an act and is ingenuine in some sense.

On a map, Poland is closer "East" than either Czech Republic or Slovenia etc.

See. you don't know two hoots about geography. It doesn't work the way you think it does.

I think there are not too many morons who think Poland is part of Russia

No one is counting but there are some.
Vlad1234 14 | 530
9 Feb 2019  #75
Gdp or gdp per capita? Russias gdp is far higher than Poland's but gdp per capita is similar to Poland only because it's skewed by the people who live in the cities.

Purchasing power parity per capita is similar according to some sources. Russia sets the first place in the World by natural gas production, 1-2 place by oil production, 1-2 place by diamonds export, 2 place by weapons export, one of the first places by space ships launches, etc. However it lacks the famous Western European invention - the Socialism, and hence civilizational and cultural differences...
Rich Mazur 4 | 2,469
9 Feb 2019  #76
Similar or not, the fact is that there is the Russia desk somewhere at the State Department.
My next weapon will be AK-47. Love that clip, I mean, magazine.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,161
9 Feb 2019  #77
AK-47.

Best rifle in the world bar none

However it lacks the famous Western European invention - the Socialism, and hence civilizational and cultural differences...

Not anymore but don't forget Russia was the first socialist country. Nowadays Russia is the vanguard of the social conservatism and Christianity. Almost all the European countries have had their culture and values wiped out by globo homo Shlomo corp
Vlad1234 14 | 530
9 Feb 2019  #78
but don't forget Russia was the first socialist country

An arguable question. Maybe just of a some form...
Ironside 47 | 9,550
9 Feb 2019  #79
Nowadays Russia is the vanguard of the social conservatism and Christianity.

Stick to the po.rn. It must be your forte as nothing else seems to be. What a load of manure, phew!
mafketis 19 | 6,878
9 Feb 2019  #80
However it lacks the famous Western European invention -

It also lacks ideas like "rule of law" and "property rights" which tend to mean that wealth is concentrated at the top while much of the population still don't have flush toilets...
Lyzko 20 | 6,118
9 Feb 2019  #81
@Ironside, please explain what you mean, in English (or preferably...privately) in Polish.

Poland historically allied herself with the culture of her neighbors, above all, in her fervent practice of Roman Catholicism vs. Russian Orthodox Christianity.
Now these are facts, how can you argue with facts?
Vlad1234 14 | 530
10 Feb 2019  #82
It also lacks ideas like "rule of law" and "property rights"

I don't want to disagree with that, but could you provide some particular examples to explain what do you mean exactly?
Rich Mazur 4 | 2,469
10 Feb 2019  #83
Can you tell me where you were born and where you live?
If you want to keep it private, can you use pm?
pawian 156 | 8,511
25 May 2019  #84
Why do Polish people hate to be called Eastern European?

For one very obvious reason - East generally carries negative meanings for the Polish ear. E..g, eastern Poland is less developed than the rest of the country. Or, historical associations: Storm from the East! (about Polish - Bolshevik war of 1920).

Who wants to be entangled in such dubious contexts? Crazies or fools......
Vlad1234 14 | 530
26 May 2019  #85
Japan is the Easternmost country in the World. Is it less developed than Poland? Or other "Asian tigers".
johnny reb 16 | 3,125
26 May 2019  #86
eastern Poland is less developed than the rest of the country.

Some may refer to that as "Rural" Poland then, yes ?
kaprys 2 | 1,668
26 May 2019  #87
There are villages all over Poland.
Crow 136 | 7,388
26 May 2019  #88
Why do Polish people hate to be called Eastern European?

Those complexes belong to past. It is from era when geographically western Europeans dominated and play games with Eastern Europe and world. And geographical west even isn`t core of West but periphery of the West.

We entering in era when true West- Slavic world and Eastern Europe coming on the stage as re-claimers of their rightful place in European and world affairs. Our liberation is possible thanks to establishing of Multi-Polar world.
pawian 156 | 8,511
26 May 2019  #89
Some may refer to that as "Rural" Poland then, yes ?

Less developed doesn`t automatically mean rural. I was talking about infrastructure, e.g, railways.

Our liberation is possible thanks to establishing of Multi-Polar world.

Yes, much better than the current Bi-Polar world.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,708
26 May 2019  #90
For one very obvious reason - East generally carries negative meanings for the Polish

Then "East Germany" west of them must be killing.... :)


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