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Why do Polish people hate to be called Eastern European?


Ironside 50 | 11,036
26 May 2019 #91
Nah, they are all Krauts. :)
Crow 147 | 9,295
26 May 2019 #92
Yes, much better than the current Bi-Polar world.

Just to clarify, Bi-Polar world was domination of USA and western Europe, or as it is also in our time, domination by USA and China. But we also had phases of Uni-Polar world with sole domination of USA.

Effectively, today, world is in transition from Bi-Polar to Multi-Polar, where Multi-Polar designate world with shared domination of major human civilizations.

Speaking of Slavic world in all these changes, I once already said how we finally (after at least 1500 years) entered in period where strong Poland suits best Russia`s interest. It is western Europe that losing if Poland and other countries on Baltic-Balkan line form Central European Union.
Ironside 50 | 11,036
26 May 2019 #93
strong Poland suits best Russia`s interest

Crow that too much BS even for you.
mafketis 25 | 9,316
26 May 2019 #94
strong Poland suits best Russia`s interest

Stop trying to ship Poland and Russia... it's not gonna happen. The most that can be hoped for is - as little contact as possible and impersonal politeness when contact can't be avoided. Expecting anything more than that is just crazy.
pawian 176 | 15,325
26 May 2019 #95
Stop trying to ship Poland and Russia...

Yes, Poland and Russia play in different teams. As much as I love Russians, I fully realise that the Kremlin will never give up its traditional dreams of having subjugated Poland on their Western border. That has been their way of thinking for the last 300 years and will remain so for the next 300.

Of course, most Poles reject such thinking, as I do, too.
Therefore, the only chance for Poland and Russia to be official partners is when radical right and nationalists take power in Poland.
Spike31 2 | 2,224
26 May 2019 #96
@pawian, you wrote so much nonsense that I don't even know where to start...

As much as I love Russians

So you love Russians. How many Russians do you know in person?

I met quite a few of them in Poland and even more of them in London (they moved to the UK disguised as Latvians, Lithuanians...) and I wouldn't say that I love them but I know how to deal with them in person.

Which brings me to the next point: the only way of effectively dealing with Russians is from the position of power. Any other approach is seen as a sign of weakness by a regular Russian. So yes, a mutual respect is possible only when both sides take hard line. That's how they are wired and that's how they've been conditioned for centuries.

When it comes to politics, obviously that kind of relations with Russia is something that only a strong conservative government is capable of. Even the US, the superpower, got slapped by Russia when they had a weak, incompetent, liberal president Obama.

And now, connecting Polish nationalist with some kind of pro-russian stance is an aberration shared by both tribes: PiS and PO followers. Polish nationalist have pro-Polish stance and in Polish interest is to cooperate with those who will bring - economical, political or any other - profits to Poland. Something which Viktor Orban does succesfully for Hungary.
pawian 176 | 15,325
26 May 2019 #97
that I don't even know where to start...

It is always best to start from the beginning.... :):)

So you love Russians.

Yes. I also love Germans, Jews, Ukrainians, Czechs, Lithuanians, blacks, Asians, gays and so on. I only dislike rightards. Any problem? :):)
Crow 147 | 9,295
27 May 2019 #98
Crow that too much BS even for you.

Like that Duda speak thru your mouth.

You know very well that western Europe represent bigger problem to Poland then Russia. You think western Europeans love Poles more then Serbs? Only because Poles are mostly Catholic, western Europeans would kill them once, while Serbs would be killed trice. I mean we refuse to die, but that`s what they think of us. So that is the slight difference, I agree. Difference yes but, that's not love.

In other words, you consider Russians weaker then western Europeans and that is why you spit on Russians. Yes, I am absolutely sure that you don`t love Russians, true. But for western Europeans you feel only hate. It is them who force you not to be Polish, not to be Slavic. You don`t see Russians as obstacle to that. You know and you anyway speak against Russians.

It all speaks of your weak character.
gumishu 11 | 5,701
27 May 2019 #99
you know , Jesus told us to love our enemies and so on
delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
28 May 2019 #100
Polish nationalist have pro-Polish stance and in Polish interest is to cooperate with those who will bring profits to Poland.

Ah yes, we know all about the profits that Russians bring to Poland.

The same nationalists have huge problems with the USA and the West in general, despite them bringing significant profits and wealth to Poland.

Something which Viktor Orban does succesfully for Hungary.

Very successfully.

emerging-europe.com/business/hungary-offers-russian-bank-diplomatic-status-complete-with-immunity/

I mean, this is a deal of a lifetime!
Crow 147 | 9,295
28 May 2019 #101
It is. Hungary will expand as state. Will be territorialy bigger.
Galitzyaner - | 2
29 May 2019 #102
Polish citizens should be no less than any other land where people are called by the name of their land. People from China are called 'Chinese', people from Israel are called 'Israelis', so why should polish citizens be called 'Eastern European'?!
Crow 147 | 9,295
29 May 2019 #103
You can`t compare terms `Polish` and `Chinese`. One who is Polish, in its meta-ethnicity is Slavic (ie Sarmatian).

Be advised that China and Chinese represent meta-ethnicity. Exactly comparable to term as we would say Slavs or Eastern Europeans. For example, you have Han people that are majority of Chinese. Then you have Duani, Tungizu, Panthay, Tibetans, Mongols, etc, etc, etc. They are all Chinese same way as Poles, Russians, Serbs, etc peoples Slavs. Term `Eastern Europeans` can be considered to be same as `Slavic` and `Slavic influenced`. That is today`s situation and I won`t go now in deeper past or observe future trends.


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