70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies

Maybe, but we all know who the greater of the two evils is, and always has been.

Did I already speak of Polish colonisation of Ukraine in 2013 posts?? Amasing.

A lot of Ukrainians are suddenly becoming experts in Polish-Ukrainian history.

The farmer protests and border closures are fueling an enormous and unusual interest in history.

As a historian by education, I can only applaud people's efforts.

What is amazing is the level of ideological nonsense that you spread onto history. What you write are not facts but ideologically infused statements of a third kind, meaning turd. All you do is post a post-commie toxicity in one solid balk of waste.

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Now?What took them so long lol!?
I would rather that get more versed in real politics as Poland can close the border altogether if they are going to act up like that.

That is ideological nonsense you are practising, darling. Close the border, Ukraine falls, Russia takes Poland and you with your far right scum buddies will be promoted by the occupiers to ruling positions at last.

Tfu, kanalia.

Shouldn't Ukrainian patriots worry about it? are they Ukrainian patriots if they act up and are harmful to Ukrainian interests? That is their problem!

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What kind of doomsday reality is that? Of course not! I mean if your kind is ruling in Poland then it is possible but that would be your fault.

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The way Ukrainians are going is to be a state that will lose the war and drag Poland down into a ditch economically, and we wouldn't be able to arm ourselves properly, and then Russia will take Poland.

So you are acting against Polish national interest making the Ukrinie case into a Polish case you should be ashamed of yourself you stupid punk!

Ukrainians that live in Poland, have a better understanding of Polish politics. Sometimes, they drop in on forums and comment sections, and try to explain to their compatriots why Poland does what Poland does.

However, Ukrainians living in Ukraine, have a really distorted view of how Polish politics work. I suppose the same could be said of Polish knowledge of Ukrainian politics.

It is difficult to read what Ukrainians think about how things work in Poland or America, without it raising my blood pressure.

They think that everything, everywhere, must work the way it works in Ukraine. "Putin must have given a boatload of money to Tusk." "The Kremlin must have blackmail on Trump." "We should have known Macron was bought and paid for." "The Russians beat us to the punch with Biden."

Don`t be stupid. You are talking about Ukrainians who represent the level of our Novi, Ironside, Poloniusz and other plastic Poles who went to the dogs in the course of their lives. Their comments on Poland and Polish affairs are idiotic to all reasonable readers.

Do you suggest we should value what those Ukrainian Novis or Irons write online just like that??

These three guys are conservative. You are liberal.

Ukraine, by Western standards, is probably 80/20 conservative/liberal. In other words, a Ukrainian liberal would probably be considered far right in the Netherlands.

Most Ukrainians are not yet as civilized as you, Pawian, and have yet to adopt important Western values like gender equality, openness towards migrants and refugees, the healing power of historical reconciliation between victims and perpetrators, or even opposition to colonialism.

So if you think, I went and chose the worst comments - you would be... mistaken.

What about those who wiped his ass with the Polish flag in Poland? or those who beat up Poles who wouldn't shout Slava Ukraine? In Poland? Why are they not deported they should be fighting Russia on the front not acting up in our country. If you think such an attitude is rare you are delusional.

What about threats made by some semi-government organizations in Ukraine against one of the leaders of the Farmer protest? Making a list of those who are acting against Ukrainian interests? WTF is that? Are they insane? And you talk some unrealistic unrelated nonsense just to keep your stupid ass in the clouds where you a big shot!

Don't provoke me you idiot, I know things you ignore or have no idea about. Yet I'm retraining myself on this forum not to post everything because of the war.

Yet some issues can't be ignored or put aside.

What about them?

You can find worse by Poles however I doubt you'd suggest it's typical behaviour.

What do you mean? Where did Poles act like that?
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It is not but given circumstances such attitude needs to be widespread to ignite here and there.

Ukrainians love making lists. It's one of their national obsessions - cataloguing all their various enemies, real and imagined.

They got into some trouble for this, too. Their most popular "list" is a website called Миротворец. Set up after the events of 2014, it catalogues all "enemies of Ukraine". Over the years, some Western people made it into the list, including some journalists and politicians.

Since many people on the list were known to be targeted for extrajudicial killings, this made those Westerners nervous.

Quote:

"On 2 June 2016, G7 ambassadors to Kyiv released a joint statement expressing deep concern about disclosures of journalists' personal data on the Myrotvorets website and called on the Myrotvorets team to withdraw personal data from public access. In 2017 Myrotvorets had a criminal case opened against it by the Ukrainian National Police, and the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) urged Ukraine to investigate the website's operations."

Please be patient with Ukrainians. They are still learning how to be proper Europeans like you.

Very good.

r*SSians however love murdering, raping and torturing.

We'll take the lists instead.

Yes, I heard about that one. I think it translates into Polish as Golodupiec.

Better than russians mired in dreams of violent conquest.....

Why does everything have to be about Russia? Is Putin also your God? I thought he was God only of Ukrainians.

This is a thread intended for the discussion of Poland's great friendship with Ukraine, and its historical roots.

Please stay on topic.

Given that they're illegally invading Ukraine just as they invaded Poland within living memory, it's on topic.

Poland and Ukraine share a common enemy.

Is it logics?

70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies
Is there a controversy about how to spell controversies?

It's you and everything you stand for.

Little old me?

I've done more to engender feelings of brotherly love between Ukraine and Poland, than all of you put together. Surely, I don't deserve this?

Russians are defending Russia's Donbas and Luhansk from the Ukrainian invaders.

...and?

at least you're using the Ukrainian approved spelling.....

sooooo misinformed and yet you expect to be taken seriously?

what a fool.....

What is the capital of Poland? Warsaw or Warszawa?
What an idiot...

Kaliningrad is Królewiec or Konigsberg, you matole.

Depends on the language

english - Warsaw
Polish - Warszawa
Hungarian - Varsó
German - Warschau
Spanish - Varsovia

What's the capital of Ukraine?

No, it does not. A proper name is a name. Jan Kowalski in Poland does not become John Smith after a 9-hour flight to Chicago.

Translating names is moronic. That's why English with its 26 letters should be the only language on earth. No dots, double dots, tails, and sh*it like this...

Not as moronic as "Donbas and Luhansk"... from a russia supporter no less.....

I am as much a supporter of Russia as you are a supporter of Ukraine. We both are safely by our PC bsing ...That's not "support".

Why you would switch from Kutasinski to mafketis is still a mystery...