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Russia vs Poland Vodka war


polkamaniac 1 | 482
21 Jun 2010 #31
You're right---since they are too drunk to drive and some can't even handle a bike.



sevcio - | 6
21 Jun 2010 #32
Polish vodka is the best in the world nowadays. I respect my russian brothers but it's true.

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I read an article some months ago about marriage who has already came back from tour of Poland ("tour of poland"->my great english, I think it should be write other way) and one of the tips their posted in their blog was:

-do not drink with polish people, you always loose

Polish people has the same rule when they are going to Russia:)
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skibum 8 | 62
21 Jun 2010 #33
Polish vodka is the best in the world nowadays. I respect my russian brothers but it's true.

Sevcio, haven't you been reading? English Vodka is officially the best in the world at the moment. English Vodka, best in world.
scottie1113 7 | 898
21 Jun 2010 #34
Shall we make that 2 shots of Sobieski, one for each bygone?

An excellent idea! If you're ever in Gdansk, look me up.
sevcio - | 6
21 Jun 2010 #35
English Vodka is officially the best in the world at the moment.

I read carefully everything. The best vodka chosen by american, oh please. And that topic, discussion about vodka by abstinents.
But it's your problem if you believe in everything you read in internet.
skibum 8 | 62
21 Jun 2010 #36
Actually by 30 Americans.

Polish vodka was 2nd, Swedish 3rd.
sfspiritscomp.com/pdfs/2010SpiritsResultsbyClass.pdf
Trevek 26 | 1,700
22 Jun 2010 #37
An excellent idea! If you're ever in Gdansk, look me up.

Likewise if you're ever in Olsztyn.
Wiedzmin_fan - | 79
23 Jun 2010 #38
A question: in Poland, does Vodka go with seljodka (fermented herring), or is it a Russian thing only?

(I know it's not a Ukrainian thing, or not so much anyway, and that made me wonder about Poland too).
OP David_18 66 | 969
24 Jun 2010 #39
fermented herring

I hate fermented herring blääääääää!!!!

I call it the swedish curse!!!
Wiedzmin_fan - | 79
24 Jun 2010 #40
I hate fermented herring

Heheh. Well, I love it! To each his/her own, I suppose ;)

I have dreams about it (it's really hard to get here in the states, because it violates some of those pesky FDA codes). All the herring they sell here is pickled, not fermented.

I've gotta find me some good stinky fermented kind ;)))
Seanus 15 | 19,674
24 Jun 2010 #41
Why have a vodka war when you can have mutual appreciation sessions? :)
OP David_18 66 | 969
24 Jun 2010 #42
Ask the french people what they think about the american wine :)

Get my point?
Seanus 15 | 19,674
24 Jun 2010 #43
Oh, come on, that's a lame comparison ;) ;)

Ask the French about anything non-French and, well, zobaczysz!

Sorry but I knew a Polish soldier that had to work with Russians and, on cold nights, they warmed their cockles with each other's vodka. They were mightily impressed! Let the common people decide and leave the snobs out of it.
Sasha 2 | 1,083
24 Jun 2010 #44
I have dreams about it (it's really hard to get here in the states, because it violates some of those pesky FDA codes).

;) How I understand you... You might wanna try so-called European shops (in my area these are shops kept by Jews where Ukrainians sell Polish and Russian goods.. he-he...). Although the best one I've tried here was in Ikea. Buy the one by "Abba" not the "ikea-food".

Köttbullar (meatballs) are for some reason a way better in Moscow's Ikeas.
OP David_18 66 | 969
24 Jun 2010 #45
Oh, come on, that's a lame comparison ;) ;)

NO!!!

This is an political issue and Russia downplayed Polands role in the communist times,

I believe in a new serious research about the origin of the Wodka/Vodka.

The last one was made by a russian for the russians.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
24 Jun 2010 #46
A Russian for the Russians? That's consistent! That sounds like Smolensk alright :)

Break stereotypes and you will see that Poland's bread is generally preferred over German bread and Polish vodka generally preferred over Russian vodka. Smirnoff was my vodka of choice when I was younger as I didn't know anything else. Now I do :) :)
Sasha 2 | 1,083
24 Jun 2010 #47
I believe in a new serious research about the origin of the Wodka/Vodka.

I don't see any sense in doing such a research yet whoever likes it... please go for it.

The research given in video has no historical/scientific or even analytic (their conclusions are totally groundless) value.
The real question is who makes better vodka nowadays... and I guess Swedes and Finns are doing better on that way than either of us.
OP David_18 66 | 969
24 Jun 2010 #48
The research given in video has no historical/scientific or even analytic (their conclusions are totally groundless) value.

Don't get me wrong, i might sound fanatic sometimes. But i just don't believe that the way the russians handled this in the communist times was fair. That's why they should make a new one, maybe even a totally neutral one.
Sasha 2 | 1,083
25 Jun 2010 #49
To tell the truth I don't think and I haven't heard communist caring about this issue that much. The image of Russians drinkers/vodka producers had been formed ages before commies had a first breath.
OP David_18 66 | 969
25 Jun 2010 #50
The image of Russians drinkers/vodka producers had been formed ages before commies had a first breath.

Yes indeed, but maybe they weren't the first ones to discover this product. And that's what it is all about, how the communists manipulated the history books and teached the poor children like you that it was the russians who invented the Vodka.
Sasha 2 | 1,083
25 Jun 2010 #51
maybe they weren't the first ones to discover this product.

Easily. Those could be some tribe of nomads too... :) I'm sort of serious now. However I can't imagine how one can get to the bottom of the issue and what I actually say is that there's probably no sense in looking for the answer. A way more important is who is doing it better right now.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
25 Jun 2010 #52
No contest, Stoli wins every time! Up the Russians!
rychlik 41 | 372
25 Jun 2010 #53
I have a s'tupid Bulgarian house mate (he's in Bulgaria now for the summer). He believes that Absolut is the best vodka in the world. S'hit for brains. Here in Canada, Absolut seems to dominate the market. I dunno how but they have done it. This proves that humans are s'tupid by nature. Kinda like saying McDonald's is the best cuisine in the world cuz it's everywhere. Absolut is not great. Very watery in taste. For puss'ies. That being said, there are a lot of Polish vodkas sold in Canada.

Anyways I gave him Zubrówka to try and he liked it. Liked the after taste and strength. If it was not for me, he would not have known. I was expecting more knowledge of Polish vodkas from an Eastern European.
OP David_18 66 | 969
25 Jun 2010 #54
I was expecting more knowledge of Polish vodkas from an Eastern European.

It's all about how you're branding your vodka. Absolut put aloot of money in their marketing and so on.
Zajec - | 11
25 Jun 2010 #55
I was expecting more knowledge of Polish vodkas from an Eastern European.

I was expecting more knowledge of junk food from an inhabitant of the American continent. Get my point? Bulgaria is Bulgaria. Hungary is Hungary. Poland is Poland. "Eastern Europe" is too much of a simplification for the mentally disabled.

In Bulgaria they don't make or drink wódka. It's a wine region. Why should they be experts on wódka?
OP David_18 66 | 969
25 Jun 2010 #56
In Bulgaria they don't make or drink wódka. It's a wine region. Why should they be experts on wódka?

Everyone drinks Wodka!!!
rychlik 41 | 372
29 Jun 2010 #57
It's a wine region. Why should they be experts on wódka?

Ok smart a'ss. Look, he sees Absolut as the best, which is a farce. And favours Russian over Polish. He's clearly insane ;)
VWodkaLover
10 Aug 2010 #58
David_18,

Many thanks for the link to the video! It was interesting, as were all replies on this thread. Allow me to add my two cents.

1. Pokhlebin's book is indeed flawed, though interesting. You can find a good part of an English translation at Google Books.

2. The Polish MP has very strange ideas. Vodka can be made only from rye, potatoes and beet juice?! Come on... As far as I know, some the best vodkas in the world are made from wheat (Absolut, Svedka, Fris, Danzka) and barley (Finlandia).

3. The Polish distiller says Russians add corn syrup (and something else, don't remember) to their vodka. This is not true. However, he is right when saying that Polish vodka has no additives, while Russian vodka usually has (but not corn, Russians despise corn). I've done a bit of research on the Net and I can tell you that whenever you can find the ingredients for a Russian vodka you'll find sugar/glucose/fructose, glycerin, and other similar "food additives". Not a good thing, and that's why I don't really trust Russian vodkas.

4. Why isn't the Ukraine mentioned as the possible birthplace of the wonderful spirit? And how about the Scandinavians? The guy is a Swede...

Anyway, as others have said on this thread, let's forget about wars and enjoy some v/wodka!

A la votre!
kondzior 11 | 1,046
11 Aug 2010 #59
Poland vs Russia? Finland has the best vodka today.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
11 Aug 2010 #60
It's a matter of preference! I'm not a vodka fan but I think it was Lubelski lemon vodka I tried that was pretty good. I only know Smirnoff from Russia. Needless to say, I know plenty Polish vodkas through seeing them in the shops.


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