Origin of the pierogi

Yes, on the territory of the former Commonwealth.


Could be Italian influence - together with many other things imported from Italy by Bona Sforza. I don't see Tatars eating dumplings. Its not a part of their cuisine.

Could be China,maybe Armenians but that is less likely than Bona.

Yes, and also across a wider area

The legend is that Marco Polo brought them to Europe. The truth may never be known.

Au contraire. Both boiled and baked or fried pierogi are their most famous dish, both in the Crimea, as well as in Poland and Lithuania. It's pretty clear that Poles adopted the dish from them, and that they brought the dish with them from the far east.

As for ravioli, the Italians adopted them from the Arabs, who adopted them from the Turks. Pretty much the same as most other pasta products.

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that.

I have lived most of my life in a Polish, Ukrainian - dominated community (about 60/40). The best pierogies I've ever had were made by Ukrainians; same fillings as the Polish ones, btw. The classic fillings are kapusta, potato, and farmer cheese. But, the kapusta filling is how I grade them. It has to be just right. Made ahead of time. One of my favorite dishes. I can eat them every day. I think it's a "regional" dish, rather than a particular nation's dish.

By far the best commercial pierogies I've had were in Wrocław (a city with a big Ukrainian connection) in a small restaurant (Polish 'bar') a few blocks from the train station. Covered with brown onions. I got them as a snack but after eating six I wasn't hungry for the rest of the day....

The best homemade pierogies I've had were made by the mother of a friend (from around Sandomierz).

I normally don't like pierogi z wody, as they are almost always served in Wrocław. I prefer them fried. However, the place for pierogi in Wrocław is Bar Mewa, just north of the old town. I felt guilty going there because it is state subsidized for poor people, but the pierogi are as awesome as pierogi z wody can get.

Bar Miś just next to the Wrocław university rectorate had better pierogies - but I haven't been to Wrocław in years so I don't know the situation right now

Never did like Miś. It was always crowded and cramped, and the food was not all that good. The food just around the corner at Misz Masz is much better, and the place was less crowded. For an extra złoty, it was worth it.

I guess you were not there in the golden days of Miś - it was always crowded yes but the food was extraordinary especially for the price - I would have starved if not were for Miś

Pierogi is a type of polish dumpling its a polish word not chinese not anything

It's a variant of a word occurring in several eastern European languages, pirog, piroshki, perohej, etc. Like kasza gryczana, cabbage soup and stuffed cabbage leaves, the filled dumplings occur in one form or another from Central Europe to the Far East. With much the same fillings too, nothing particularly specific to Poland.

So what? Like pierogi are Polish since time immemorial.

And many other things too, a traditional food of not just one country, but a whole swathe of the world.

Polish pierogi are Polish. End of......

jon, next you'll be telling us Rosół is chicken soup.

Turkish mantI, Chinese won ton, Italian ravioli, Polish pirogi. All variants on a theme. Yes, Polish pirogi are Polish, but they don't differ much from many other dishes.

Well it is chicken broth isn't it which could be considered a thin chicken soup.

How does that differ from perohey?


Rosol z kury (as opposed to any other stock) is just a slightly inferior version of cock-a-leekie.

Not unique to Poland either, it's made in an identical way from Berlin to Vladivistok.

I'd say much inferior. Polish soups are great but this one is meh.
Please stick to the topic

They ARE Polish, made by the Polish people and are called pierogi.
What is so difficult to understand?

Well perohey aren't Polish are they ?

Identical in every way. As I say, those things are a staple in many many places.

they aren't idenctical if filling is different - can you get sauerkraut and wild mushrooms pierogi in China? or even the most common farmer's cheese, potato and onion ones (aka pierogi ruskie) - I have never been to Ukraine so I have no idea what kinds of fillings they use - I wouldn't be surprised if they use similar or identical fillings though

The fillings are the same - perohey and pierogi are just different names for the same thing in different places. Who mentioned China? Their filled dumplings are different from the ones that have long been a common food from Central Europe right through to Vladivostok...

Sure but those are still Polish, after all those are ancient polish lands

Vladivostok? Crimea? The Volga Basin?

No, I-S, they aren't.

They're more or less the same food. If anything they would have come from ancient Poland and kievan rus. Each Slavic country has their own versions of pierogi. Like Russian pierogi, those filled with meat, are very popular in pl. There's ones filled w cheese (most common), potatoes, meat, blue berries, strawberries and I'm sure other filled in other countries.

Lwowskie are the nicest, filled with a kind of Bolognese sauce.

The marco Polo legend is interesting, however more likely that they travelled west to Europe overland and perhaps earlier.

Bacon crumbs over pierogis are very good as well. I eat Polish food all the time, love Golabki also:)
Good info here!