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Polish Home Carers Needed in Colchester, Essex, UK



peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,086    
5 Sep 2017  #31

£16,000 per annum plus mileageIf you or any one you know are interested please contact me

Don't expect crowds. We are rather in retreat than expand. Pound is still diving (4.61 today) Many people think about relocation.


Atch 9 | 1,644    
6 Sep 2017  #33

What I find saddest about that ad is the fact that there is no language requirement. So the agency thinks it's ok to send somebody with perhaps very basic English to communicate with an elderly person who is quite possibly socially isolated and housebound. One of the most important aspects of home caring is the human contact where the elderly person looks forward to the social interaction and a bit of a chat.
terri 1 | 1,233    
6 Sep 2017  #34

Not only that, but if the elderly are ill the person who does not have a good command of English cannot assess the severity of their illness and the person may die because help was not sought promptly. If you want to have the death of a person on your hands because you don't understand fully their ailments - then go ahead, otherwise remember that it is not only changing their nappies (diapers) and cleaning them up afterwards that you will need to do.
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,256    
6 Sep 2017  #35

yes well these agencies only care about one thing and it isnt the old people or the carers.
mafketis 16 | 4,609    
6 Sep 2017  #36

if the elderly are ill the person who does not have a good command of English cannot assess the severity of their illness

I have the idea that they're recruiting disillusioned nurses, without the command of language though even if they recognize the problem they'll be hampered in getting help for the ill person....
shelley1902    
6 Sep 2017  #37

Thankyou for your feed back.
I currently work a 40 hour week on a Salary of £16,000, My rent is a lot higher than the amount this company are offering. I'm not here to exploit anybody and anyone can apply for this role, anyone of any nationality, as long as they have the right to work in the UK.
spiritus 67 | 587    
6 Sep 2017  #38

@shelley1902

Many of us may earn more than £ 16,000 a year but many of us also forget that large sections of the population will be earning approx £ 16k so I don't think people should get snobby about it
G (undercover)    
6 Sep 2017  #39

The vast majority of low paid workers are being exploited.

Commie speech... all payroll workers are basically "exploited" by default, companies don't hire unless they know (or at least expect) the worker will contribute more than he/she costs.

I'll help you a bit - wait until the next election.

No idea what kind of elections are coming soon in your country... If you mean that the left is going to win and home care is going to be "free"... that's the problem with commies, you don't understand that nothing is "for free".

If the government is pushing the wages up via regulations beyond the natural level, the country will soon get into recession and obviously the "poor" will be the hardest hit. The wealth of nations is being created by the business sector, you can't "grow" it out of nothing.

Wealth distribution is a totally different concept, it can be done via the tax system (progressive rates) benefits etc. But apparently you just don't have a clue...
jon357 70 | 12,776    
6 Sep 2017  #40

all payroll workers are basically "exploited" by default

Of course. That doesn't make it right, moral or particularly sustainable in a democracy.

But apparently you just don't have a clue...

Perhaps more of a clue than you. The privatisation of care services is a very recent (and temporary thing). there is no majority public will for it to continue, and no reason to have business people skimming off up to 70% of the cost and trousering the money.
TicTacToe    
6 Sep 2017  #41

Polish people who are in management in care homes in the UK take on only other Polish workers, it's rife where I live. Next too no money for 12 -14 hr rotating shifts on a 7 day basis !!. The Polish do it too, guess when you only earn £2 an hour in Poland £5 is more here. £5 is what they earn too but you see the manager getting alot more driving around in s flashy car laughing all the way.
jon357 70 | 12,776    
6 Sep 2017  #42

but you see the manager getting alot more driving around in s flashy car laughing all the way.

Come the revolution they won't be laughing...
TicTacToe    
6 Sep 2017  #43

British people got pushed out and Polish got exploited it is very true but some of the Polish helped exploit their own kind !! Crazy.
peterweg 36 | 2,262    
6 Sep 2017  #44

Many of us may earn more than £ 16,000 a year but many of us also forget that large sections of the population will be earning approx £ 16k so I don't think people should get snobby about it

Its a ****, unskilled job but its more than minimum wage. My brother works in an office and gets paid less than £16K.

What everyone if ignoring is that Working Tax Credits could take the wage up to £27k per year with Housing Benefit (local council pays the rent).

For those who don't know the UK's social system, anyone working more than 16 hours per week has their wage topped up with 'in-work' social security payments. The idea is to force/encourage the unemployed to work and make it worthwhile.

but you see the manager getting alot more driving around in s flashy car laughing all the way.

Half the care homes in the UK are on the brink of bankruptcy. They are desperate for staff as its takes a lot of people to run these places and even at £900 per person per week the economics are precarious.
shelley1902    
6 Sep 2017  #45

..... for those of you that think I'd really send someone who doesn't speak English forward for this role, then think again. What I assumed is that unlike us British, most other countries actually bother to learn English as another language and they aren't so ignorant.
G (undercover)    
6 Sep 2017  #46

Of course. That doesn't make it right, moral

Your "solutions" to make it "right and moral" were tested in many places and the effects weren't impressive, to put it very mildly.

If they don't find anyone willing to take this job for £ 16,000, they will have to pay more, that's how it works, no need for your

Come the revolution they won't be laughing...

marxist excrements.
jon357 70 | 12,776    
6 Sep 2017  #47

Your "solutions"

So were yours - and as we can see from the wretched job advert above, with someone keeping back up to 70% of the cost of the service and passing on peanuts to the people who actually carry out the service - yours aren't working.

marxist excrements.

How bitter capitalist losers are. Doubtless your bosses and their investors are laughing all the way to the bank.
spiritus 67 | 587    
7 Sep 2017  #48

and as we can see from the wretched job advert above

Why is it wretched ? Do you realise that many people only earn £ 16k a year ? It might be breadcrumbs to you but many people have to survive on that. I'm not a fan of job agencies but they exist and we have to deal with it
jon357 70 | 12,776    
7 Sep 2017  #49

Why is it wretched ?

Because:

many people only earn £ 16k a year

they exist and we have to deal with it

Really?
peterweg 36 | 2,262    
9 Sep 2017  #50

Yes, really.

And I have already pointed out, the government will top up the pay to the average UK wage, depending on circumstances, with Working Tax Credits.
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,256    
9 Sep 2017  #51

unlike us British, most other countries actually bother to learn English as another language and they aren't so ignorant.

speak for yourself love
TicTacToe    
9 Sep 2017  #52

@peterweg

I don't know who told you that but as a Chef I've worked in many. They're far from bankrupt, many pay very low wages, very few jobs are full time. They take people on through agencies as they can cook the books and pay less than NMW, and yes it does go on.

Where I live in North Yorkshire, I have NEVER come across an Eastern European working in a care home. Considering Chef's have to have college catering training and Care Assistance also have to have NVQ in Care. Get a visit from the CQC or the local council and non-trained staff and you'll soon know about it. You can't just walk in off the street and get a job in a care home, that is unless you work through a corrupt agency who have fake documents.
jon357 70 | 12,776    
9 Sep 2017  #53

And I have already pointed out, the government will top up the pay to the average UK wage

Let the people skimming off the profits shell out for that.
G (undercover)    
10 Sep 2017  #54

So were yours - and as we can see from the wretched job advert above, with someone keeping back 70% of the cost of the service and passing on peanuts to the people who actually carry out the service

Balcerowicz style "solutions" of starving people aren't "mine". You have been supporting dudes following that nonsense and now suddenly come up with some marxist speech. No business based on the simple model makes 70% profits, If that was a case you will soon see hundreds of similar companies showing up.

The common sense approach is to keep the wages on reasonable level and thus keep the economy competitive + the prices of goods and services low, which is particularly important for... the poor !!! and to fight poverty add to that tax credits, child/housing benefits etc. That's what UK is doing and since PiS took over that's what Poland has started doing. While your "ideas" are on the level of Zimbabwe, where folks thought they would make people rich printing more zeroes on the banknotes.
jon357 70 | 12,776    
10 Sep 2017  #55

The common sense approach is to keep the wages on reasonable level

£16,000 per year isn't a "reasonable level".

The common sense approach is to stop bottom feeding 'temp agencies' skimming up to 70% of the cost paid by the local authority for home care services, paying the minimum that they can get away with and trousering the rest...
Bieganski 15 | 811    
10 Sep 2017  #56

The reactions to this thread are hilarious.

No one stops to think or even admit how it all came to this.

Societies in the West have become atomized. Who led this atomization? The Silent Generation? Generation X? Millennials? Nope. Baby Boomers, that's who.

It has been hippy Baby Boomers who have mercantilised society. Indeed, Baby Boomers were the ones who created the entire concept of care homes. After all, with both Baby Boomer men and "liberated" Baby Boomer women competing for jobs in the workforce since the 1960s and beyond they weren't about to give up their own careers to care for an elderly and sick parent or grandparent. Additional, were Baby Boomers ever described as being "latchkey" children? No again.

But now that its the Baby Boomers who are facing being dumped off and abandoned in the same care home system they created (and in the full knowledge of how abusive they often are and how their own offspring want nothing to do with them) now all of sudden society needs to pull together and be more caring for the elderly and hire the very best talent and at top wages to look after them.

The wages being offered are simply the going rate. There are likely to be takers even with the position having a high turnover rate. Most young people don't see caring for entitled Baby Boomers as a life long ambition or a dream career anyway. Someone will take it as an interim job until they can find something else or sign back onto the dole.
G (undercover)    
10 Sep 2017  #57

£16,000 per year isn't a "reasonable level".

I haven't said a word about this particular job offer. But what's a "reasonable level" isn't a matter of "social justice" or anything of that sort but a function of a given country's/area's economic development, in one case it might be £25,000 in another £1,000. In practice It's the amount of money people are ready to work for. If you think that's "injustice" and want to push the wages up through administrative decisions, you will get Zimbabwe in the end.
jon357 70 | 12,776    
10 Sep 2017  #58

I haven't said a word about this particular job offer

Really? It's the topic of the thread...

But what's a "reasonable level" isn't a matter of "social justice" or anything of that sort

It is exactly that.

and want to push the wages up through administrative decisions

Far better than wanting to "push the wages" down through "administrative decisions" like suddenly (and fortunately temporarily) allowing bottom feeding temp agencies to skim off 70% of the cost of social care...
NoToForeigners 7 | 824    
10 Sep 2017  #59

I haven't said a word about this particular job offer.

Why do you even converse with a? It is OBVIOUS he will do anything to make majority bend to him. It is Leftist view on Democracy. Democracy is the rule of majority ONLY if it fits their leftist agenda. Otherwise he will try to make DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY to bend over to PC and to MINORITY. If majority elects the conservative govt IT IS NOT DEMOCRACY AT WORK, It is everything else. Liberalism =/= Democracy.
G (undercover)    
11 Sep 2017  #60

It is exactly that.

Of course it isn't. So what's the level of "social justice" in Poland ? Half of £16,000 would ruin the economy totally.




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