Travel / Polish roads as recorded by myself earlier today [74]


then forever would be a very finite period. if you don't understand that in this context "speed" is referring to high speeds then allow me to help you clarify this immediately and in no uncertain terms.

"Incompetence" what do you mean by that? what a horribly defended argument that is. Anyone can be deemed incompetent if the other drivers are going fast enough. It's not everyone else's job to adapt to moron drivers and if they misjudge the speed of a vehicle going waaay over the speed limit, is that incompetence? Excessive speeding should also be considered witin the context of road conditions, weather conditions, traffic conditions, I could go on forever...

News / March of Tolerance in Krakow [478]

yo, hey, z_man, you kinda forfeited on our last exchange. No big deal I suppose as this latest of yours is of much more interest to me.

I think the findings you posted are quite interesting but they don't appear to be actually proven, just a hypothetical cause. Anyway let's make like their theory (if it is in fact a theory) is spot on and homosexuality is "abnormal." So is blindness, so is being born with a number of abnormalities, what conclusion(s) do you draw from this then?

I mean the fact that it is not as predominant as heterosexuality kinda makes it pointless for the big conclusion to be that it's abnormal, that's pretty obvious, but so what? Isn't this thread about being tolerant of differences?

News / March of Tolerance in Krakow [478]


hmmm, the reason i questioned if it was a theory was simply because i know there's a difference between theory and hypothesis and i'm guilty too often of confusing the few, i've no doubts regarding that it's based in science.

It's biologically abnormally, geez that's it? no conclusions from that then? Well on it being abnormal then it looks like I agree with you wholeheatedly. But was a study really needed to establish that? I mean wtf, isn't abnormal just a term for not like the majority? But I could (or we) be wrong.

i musta missed the boat on where someone said it's normal. *shakes head*

Well anyway it was fun debating with you. Cheers for your time (whatever it was we were on about)
:)

Work / Is there jobs for a beauty therapist in Poland? [28]

is this like when you give therapy to someone who is beautiful and doesn't know how to handle it? intriguing if so.

Work / How much Poles earn compared to foreigners! [29]

hey eric,
look up the word "tact" (although ironic coming from me)
then please learn how to spell "forginers"
lastly, please work on your delivery so this becomes a compelling topic and not just an opportunity to look at what another "dumb english teacher" has written on this forum.

bye.

Travel / ŁÓDZ..is it worth a visit? [25]

hellu hooligans in £odz, very honorable reputation among different hools. the main street has pretty good night life, some areas are to be avoided- you'll know if you're there.

Life / PATRIOTISM -- POLISH OR OTHERWISE? [23]

i think if you're "proud" of anything you (meaning anyone really) yourself haven't directly contributed to then you're severely lacking in analytical skills.

Patriotism: i feel people confuse or rather blur the distinctions between reverence, admiration and esteem with personal accomplishment and self worth. Patriotism is a very specific thing but people are quite lazy in how the define it and act out being "patriotic." So in the end, "patriotism" is healthy but with all notions and concepts, people have a way warping these things to negative extremes.

happy independence day

Love / Italian-American Guy and Polish Girl living in Chicago (I'm confused) [12]

yeah i also heard polish people proclaim a few years back: we're the mexico of europe!
Me: Is that a good thing?

I like the Polish far too much to ever think of them as anything but Polish.

Life / PATRIOTISM -- POLISH OR OTHERWISE? [23]


without you knowing what specific examples i was referring to, you're really off base. But reiterate my initial statement more clearly, if one wants to be proud of something they didn't affect or couldn't have affected due to things like time then it shows a lack of introspection and analysis. Having said that


So you want to be proud of your country? hey bud, have at er and spread the positive vibes!

You want to be proud you are " " great but to me that's like somebody saying they're proud to have " " colour of eyes. I still wish luck with that but being proud of what you were born as and had no choice in is rather silly to me.

Now you go and get some guy who says he's proud of what some other guy or gal did a looong time ago and, well, if you can't see how little sense that makes then i feel sorry for you.

But to end on a positive note, I helped push a family's car tonight and gave them a jumper boost and then wished them a Happy Independence Day and everyone smiled.

The end.

Life / PATRIOTISM -- POLISH OR OTHERWISE? [23]


wow it's like i wasn't addressing you at all...


...so take your own advice....oh wait, it's a message board, we generally post things we've thought about (personally analyzed), no? Hey look at that, i beat you to the punch and did exactly what you wrote i should do, before you wrote it.

Reread and reanalyze what i wrote previously in varying contexts and get back to me when you've done so.
Good luck.


Quite true, I was thinking of specific things but was far too unmotivated to go them. You seem to be as sharp as they come so I'm sure you could think of instances where people claim to be proud of things but when asked "why" really can't come up with anything that makes sense. When you do come up with those instances then perhaps you'll get what i had written.


Yeah I think I get your point but again if someone hasn't really contributed squat to something then how can they be proud of it? It'd be like me saying I'm proud to be Norwegian even though i don't contribute to what makes norway so great. Or if i said i take pride in what the early scandanavian explorers did, like as though i had anything to do with it. It's a stupid way of thinking imo and fails all logical criticism.

And if somebody asked me, "hey f4, why are you so proud to be norwegian?" Wtf would i even say, "uh cause i was born there? and grew up there and lived my life like your average norwegian" wtf kind of answer is that?


I agree with your idea and would argue parents contribute (as a rule) much more to what their children become than simply feed them.


preposterous sir, you have no choices as to where your tax dollars go it's none of your doing. Why would you be proud of the team, what have you done to make a difference?

Here in Poland, when the football team wins, everyone proclaims, "we won" but when they lose, everyone proclaims "they lost."

To put this another way, should you feel shame if Canadian mining companies operating abroad abuse local workers? If your local junior hockey team (whl or ohl?) acts like complete morons at a local bar? Should you be ashamed of what the RCMP did in Vancouver? Or should you be disgusted and outraged? and Why?

Keep in mind in one way or another your tax dollars probably affect each entity mentioned but you get almost no say in the matter.

Seriously thanks for your insight and questions, i like the way you approach debates in general.

UK, Ireland / POLISH TEENAGER MURDERED IN UK..man convicted [28]

I honestly think it will have to come down to race wars or something like that for immigration in some nations to smarten up. How can you let somebody like that into the country in the first place?

Life / PATRIOTISM -- POLISH OR OTHERWISE? [23]


you thought wrong. I wrote "reread" and "reanalyze" which means do it again after the last time you did it.


Didn't i write one might revere, admire, aspire to or use as inspiration that particular something/someone?

In fact i wrote that these are better terms to use as i feel pride is reserved for those things you yourself have done or tried to do.


Seriously what's so hard to understand about the above and why get so bent out of shape about it?


Really? Which nation did I address, can you show me where I wrote this?
No?
Ok then, it looks like you're just making stuff up.
Breathe in, breathe out, calm down and try thinking rationaly.

Clearly reading comprehension is not something you've any talent for:
A question was posed on the internet, i responded as the op seemed to have asked for opinions. That's it.

You seem to take great offence that someone (in this case me) suggests you use a different term other than "pride" or "proud" for some feelings you have for something. Like as if it would really change how you feel about ____. Unless of course, you have chosen to attach your self worth to things that you had nothing to do with (blurring lines between self worth and accomplishments of others).

Seriously is there something wrong with saying "I'm glad to be(insert nationality here) because of the great country my ancestors helped to build or the bravery they showed" instead of just saying i'm proud of (insert ancestor here)?"

Is it so awful to say "I really respect and admire so and so from the past and aspire to be like them" instead of saying you're "proud to be (nationality) because (insert historical figure[s]) was/were (insert nationality) too?"

Is it so offensive to you to suggest "pride" be reserved for those people who have done something worth a lick and more than just be born?

Are you just too lazy to be specific or that much of a weak sister to tolerate another person entertaining ideas you can't figure out?

Now, I'd rather you just go away, if you've nothing to bring to the table other than pouting and emotional outbursts.

News / Poland Needs to Shape up [43]


kick adrian11224/Nara out of Poland!

News / Poland Needs to Shape up [43]

cause anyone that would quote a wwe character is surely diluting the cultural milieu,
that is all.

News / Poland Needs to Shape up [43]


says the guy who suggests catholicism should be abolished here and alcohol should be outlawed.

yeah let's make really crazy rules and have the government enforce what can and can't be consumed, oh wait, that happened already. How did that go?

Life / about bielska-bialo - require some advice about living there. [5]

lots of little pubs and clubs in that city as long as you can find a partner in crime then you shouldn't have any problem finding a place to go to. Kind of has an artsy scene as well and a modest student population.

Life / PATRIOTISM -- POLISH OR OTHERWISE? [23]


sorry the burden is on the accuser so put up or shut up.


So simple, yet you have no problem doing what you accuse me of at the drop of a hat.


Had you just asked for clarification at the outset or thought about it a bit more then you'd have avoided this waste of time.

The thing is, I wasn't addressing anyone in particular, you didn't see me jump down someone else's throat just because i may not have agreed with what they wrote on the topic.

Regarding this "sneering cynicism," look buddy, you're projecting far too much of your imagination into this. Ask a question get an answer, pick a quarrel and get one, why are you moaning at the turn this has taken given your approach?


Well who doesn't have a lot to learn? Anyway borrow them all you want cause you wrote half of them and then quoted it all under my screen name;)

But I digress, why didn't you just post your remarks up to the one who asked for everyone's opinion?

Instead, you chose to pick an argument with me for no other reason than you didn't like what wasn't addressed to you in the first place. Why?

You didn't ask for clarification, you didn't ask for any further specification but instead used a tactless approach trying to set out my own opinion for me. Why?

Never mind. I don't care if you don't accept what i had to say cause it was never put out there for you to or not to accept.

If it's easier for you to get into an argument than attempt to understand something then your little words of wisdom are rather ironic.

Ok, bye now.
*sneers at ozi dan*

News / POLISH FOREIGN MINISTER IN TROUBLE OVER JOKE? [29]

It rather annoys me that foreign notions of what political correctness (such b.s. imo) should be imposed on a sovereign nation.

Is this about the inaccuracy of the joke or about what's being interpretted as politically correct in the u.s?

Life / muslim community in poland [430]

it's probably due less to religion and more due to much more complicated phenomena, yet attributed to islam. You used the word "twist" so i think you acknowledge that there is manipulation of the worst kind going on. Are you being manipulated too?

If we look at inquisition re: fanaticism and torture techniques, it wouldn't be fair to attribute that to christianity despite what those who were involved might have said.

Any ways, I'm curious as to what you would regard "use terrorism and kill innocent civilians" to mean. The reason why I ask is because uniformed soldiers also kill innocent civillians, however words like collateral damage, bystanders, civillain losses, etc, are frequently used.

From iht.com/articles/ap/2007/07/02/europe/EU-GEN-Italy-Afghan-Conference.p hp

"It's very unfortunate that in these military operations at times civilians get caught in the middle..."

reads much cleaner than
"It's awful that our troops accidentally, but routinely shoot or blow up innocent men women and children..."

I don't know if you get my point or not but if you don't then never mind.

Anyway I ask myself how i'd feel in their situation. I think killing innocents is wrong but i sit here from a very comfy position, how would i feel if i were treated like **** by an occupying force, or if my relatives were?

And what if my main source of early education came from someone who preached suicide bombing, and what if i didn't know where he and his network were getting their funding from? What if i didn't have the skills to question all the things i accepted to be true? But you have those skills, right?

ash786
I hear what you're saying but the truth is, most of the responses you'll get are quite canned and uninformed. Maybe this one i'm giving is too:\

No one will really be able to comment on the continual and systematic division (of every increasingly small sections) of the west bank because then people might question their own governments' involvement.

Most people don't want to entertain the notion that their axioms are flawed or that "their side is not right." Or worse yet that everyone is crooked, or worse even still that it's all so f'd up we can't do our precious judging from our perfect moral compasses.

Sa'laam

this was sent to the random chat thread, not sure why as it's in line with the discussion

Life / PATRIOTISM -- POLISH OR OTHERWISE? [23]

ah the lofty goat, i am humbled by your presence:)
*assumes stance of reverence*

Life / Can an American in Poland renew American Passport here? [18]

any photographer's just tell them the specs and they do it for whatever the price is on the tin. or was that a rhetorical question?

Life / Persian community in Warsaw? (i don't mean cats) [18]

i don't understand why the term "persian" is used when speaking about iranians. Can someone shed some light on this?

USA, Canada / Why aren't Polish people immigrating to Canada instead of the UK? [148]


I think you know what i meant. Of course Vancouver and the South Pacific coast don't get much snow. Let's just say that there's a reason people say canadian winters are rough.

Having grown up there, and having worked with canadians from across the country, i'm more than entitled to my opinion.

But it really depends on what you like. I think a lot of poles would find it difficult to adjust to life in a canadian city or small town (like there are big ones) after living in Poland. It can be an "emptiness" to some and a "solace" to others.

I miss it, but not the politically correct bs that permeates from every orifice of life there.

Anyone coming from canada this christmas? I'm going to visit so i wanna buy some dollars and avoid the commission at a kantor. anyone? anyone?

News / England and Poland are friends [28]

nations are not people, that is all.

USA, Canada / Iranian moving to Poland from Canada. What to expect? [23]

if i were you i wouldn't do it. I don't know anything about you or your situation but i don't think it's a decision you'd look back on as a good one- if you do move then i sincerely hope i'm wrong

Study / Looking for English Language schools in Katowice [48]

why the heck would you recommend a place you and your friend quit?

Honestly man, school management in the kato area have their collective head up their collective arse. it might be easier to ask which schools to avoid. I know, bubbling with optimism, i am.

News / Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners [324]

Yoshi really immigrated the truth on to this topic and ended the whole debate at post #313.
Shame on you guys for not recognizing the greatness of that post.

Anyone who has even the slightest inclination to post on this topic really ought to read that post and then ask themselves if they can add any substance to his points or counter his points- I bet we can't.

USA, Canada / Why aren't Polish people immigrating to Canada instead of the UK? [148]

It seems that Winnipeg (I was passing through and met up with an old friend) residents (well the ones i spoke with) are a bit annoyed at the number of eastern european immigrants of late- their sentiments, not mine. It seems, again their sentiments, not mine, that they bring more problems than they contribute. I don't know if it's a Polish thing or a Ukranian thing, to the average Canuck, there really isn't a difference. Anyway why the hell anyone would immigrate to winnipeg is a mystery to me.

UK, Ireland / Life in the UK for some Poles (sad article) [124]


you can guarantee jack sh!t based off a supposition.
Critical thinking, enjoy it.

edit*yeah yeah, i know that's from page 1 but I couldn't resits, sue me*

UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]


that's the part i don't like. Who or what is the police of a country to decide when people can protest and where?