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muslim community in poland


ash786  
11 Nov 2008 /  #1
hi
can anyone tell me which area of poland has the most number of muslim people living there as i myself am a muslim and would be nice if i ever went to poland to visit and see how they are living and what sort of facilities they have in comparison to uk muslims.and also does anyone know of any halal meat shops.

thank you.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
11 Nov 2008 /  #2
poland has the most number of muslim people

Polish moslems are the most tolerant of moslems you are yet to witness.
espana 17 | 911  
11 Nov 2008 /  #3
this disgusting people are very racist
i want to see other muslim....why ?
if i go to poland is not for see spanish people , is for look poland and how the polish people live , , i dont care if they are muslims , jews or catholic

muslim racist
Wroclaw Boy  
11 Nov 2008 /  #4
and also does anyone know of any halal meat shops.

I dont think youll have much luck on the Halal front.
dcchris 8 | 432  
11 Nov 2008 /  #5
for halal meat i would check the turkish shops but i dont know exactly. as well there are a number of pakistanis here in school. if you look around at least in the bigger cities you may find something.
OP ash786  
11 Nov 2008 /  #6
i am sorry that you misunderstood my question or i misquoted it.i am not a racist and my girlfriend is polish.the reason why i ask is maybe in the near future i want to move to poland i would prefer to live in a muslim community as i have a lot in common with them and also if i wish to practice my religion then that would be the best place as there would be am sure many practising muslims with facilities like a mosque for example,so for you to jump the gun and call me a racist i think you need to take a long hard look at yourself and decide who the real racist is.
dcchris 8 | 432  
11 Nov 2008 /  #7
i agree with you ash you just asked a simple question. as I said there are a number of muslims mainly turkish and pakistani. I assume the mosques are private but I dont know. My advice would be to go to the local kebab place upon arrival and ask there.
OP ash786  
11 Nov 2008 /  #8
for those people with a postive reply to my original question i salute you.thank you very much you have been helpful..one person took offence and called me a muslim racist just because i asked where majority of muslims lived in poland..my girlfriend is polish living in the uk and guess what theres hundreds of poles in that area and the immediate surrounding area so people like to live amongst people whom they have something in common with whether its skin color,the language they speak or the religion they practice.please quote me if anybody disagrees with me am not easily offended.
guruji  
11 Nov 2008 /  #9
I agree with you 100%
Wroclaw Boy  
11 Nov 2008 /  #10
I think muslims are for the most part a very laid back selfless race, its easy to be blinded by the media and jump on the band wagon of hate towrds these people. I spent a few years in Kuwait in my early years and have holidayed to muslim countries, no problems at all unless ofcourse they start bogging at my wife.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
11 Nov 2008 /  #11
poles in that area and the immediate surrounding area so people like to live amongst people whom they have something in common with whether its skin color,the language they speak or the religion

Well...in a way. But then why did you prefer to have a Polish girlfriend then?

You will find is much happier to mix with the Polish mainstream... But its your choice.
tomek - | 134  
11 Nov 2008 /  #12
Oh man I love this forum - how could I ever have stayed away soo long. Hey Ash, which city in Saudia Arabia should a jew visit to see how jewish people prosper there? Go and visit your girlfriends father first ...
OP ash786  
11 Nov 2008 /  #13
you now what? the first person who called me a muslim racist and now you with the jewish remark,this hatred can only come from narrow minded selfish people like you two.i would love to know your background and av got a very good idea of it which i will keep to myself.i love my religion and it has been hijacked by an illetrate minority and the blown out of propertion by greedy, evil western media companies who stand to make a small gain but i say to everybody look at the big picture..who actually owns all these newspapers???!!!!collapse of the banking system in america and uk,who actually owns these organisations????!!!!internet is there for everybodys disposal...read it and weep....
tomek - | 134  
11 Nov 2008 /  #14
"If you wanna make a change, you gotta bring weapons in."

John Rambo

I'm not advocating anybody, and I appreciate any muslim who advocates liberal ideas within his community, but the ugly truth is that the muslims within our communities are far away from beeing liberal.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
11 Nov 2008 /  #15
i want to move to poland i would prefer to live in a muslim community

If you want to move to Poland then you have to assimilate, forget about any muslim communities.

who actually owns all these newspapers???!!!!collapse of the banking system in america and uk,who actually owns these organisations????!!!!

Jews... ?
guruji  
11 Nov 2008 /  #16
Are , you polish people are asimilating with other nations while living abroad???
Actually i have been in Uk and i saw that most of the polish people living with own community, living together in houses, buying food in polish shops, talking in polish language even at work, where all nations working together, wearing polish tshirts, and demonstratiing that u r from Polska, why u not adpoting english culture when u are living in England??

first u look after urself , and how u people behaving...
OP ash786  
11 Nov 2008 /  #17
brilliant guruji ke haal ay.
thats exactly my point..am not saying if i move to poland am gona wear all muslim gear(which i can if i wish...i hope)and live within four walls of the muslim community and never set foot anywhere else in poland or speak to native polish people,far from it,am very liberal and love socialising with everybody,but i do feel that if at some point i wish to go to a mosque etc .i dont want to be travelling 2-3 hours just to get to it.if i want halal meat(and thats the only meat i will ever eat)i dont want to travel so far that by the time av got back its gone off..
tomek - | 134  
11 Nov 2008 /  #18
I live in Germany among other 2 Million Poles, or Poles with German roots here. I live in a near million inhabitants city and we only have 2 (two) Polish shops here. Polish newspapers are not seen everywhere, but turkish and russians are. Sure you can listen some talking polish, but its a "Hey, so they are polish, never would have thaught that"-feeling and not the "there's a muslim with his wife I could tell them from a mile away"-feeling. We are able and willign to assimilate in other european counties, you just need to give us some time - and why are we able to do so? Cos our culture has relatively much in common with our hosts one.

And yes, we will never get rid of bigos and kielbasa, but hey, seldom heared someone complaining about the food I served to my German friends.
guruji  
11 Nov 2008 /  #19
Hi ash how're you ?
which part of Poland do you want to visit ? then maybe i can give u some usefull information .
OP ash786  
11 Nov 2008 /  #20
bro i heard polish people were very racist and that is coming from my girlfriend who is polish and speaks very little english but boy they showing it in this here forum.i dont even know if am going yet but i just thought may be some input would be nice..if i go just for a holiday i dont give a sh8t if theres any muslims there or not.am speaking about if i want to move there long term it would be nice if i could atleast be near a muslim community just for basic needs like halal food or a mosque or just to keep in touch with my religion.the way sum people have reacted you would think i was going over to convert everybody in poland to islam.LOL
pingwin 2 | 117  
11 Nov 2008 /  #21
Checkout the following: polishforums.com/arab_american_polish_friendship-35_29299_0.html

It might help especially what Dawid posted at the end. Just trying to help that's all.
OP ash786  
11 Nov 2008 /  #22
nice one pingwin..quite helpful...like i say,i take people as i see them.but just like in this wide world there are people on this forum who do no like to see may be polish and muslims being friends and getting along and you know who u are and believe me i definitley know who u are mo....fu...r
mafketis 21 | 7,458  
11 Nov 2008 /  #23
As for your question. I've known a number of Muslims happily living in Poland but it's hard to call them a 'community'. For one thing Polish infrastructure is such that ethnic minority neighborhoods will not happen for a long time. For another, Muslims in Poland come from a number of different countries with different traditions within Islam and speaking different languages and aren't necessarily interested in associating with other Muslims just because they're Muslims. A lot of recent Muslim immigrants are small business people who don't have much time for socializing anyway.

As for halal meat, either find it imported or forget it. AFAIK there is no halal slaughterhousse (maybe in the NE of Poland where there's an indigenous Muslim minority). The most popular and common meat in Poland is pork but chicken, turkey and beef are easy to find (less so mutton and/or goat which have never been popular here).

I don't know of any mosques (again, there are only a few Muslims in Poland and they come from different traditions so there's no big feeling in most of them to get together to build mosques) there are places they meet for prayers but you'd have to be here and know people to find those.
OP ash786  
11 Nov 2008 /  #24
thanks mafketis.now that was a straight forward answer to a straight forward question or did you think i was a racist muslim too.lol.very helpful mate and i appreciate it.i would hate the idea of spending my life in poland and never coming into contact witha muslim.am not being racist or anything but i do not want to forget my religion at any cost.if i feel that its too difficult for me to buy halal meat or practice my religion i dont think i would live there.no disrespect to any polish people or their country.i think nearly all polish people av come across have been great.
mafketis 21 | 7,458  
11 Nov 2008 /  #25
i would hate the idea of spending my life in poland and never coming into contact witha muslim.am not being racist or anything but i do not want to forget my religion at any cost.if i feel that its too difficult for me to buy halal meat or practice my religion

It depends on what you mean by 'practice (your) religion'. Muslims from the same country or language group do have contact with each other in Poland and there are meeting places for prayers (one less than 1/2 kilometer from where I live).

Actually according to Wikipedia, there are mosques in Poland (though the article doesn't distinguish mosques and prayer hourses)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Poland

On the other hand, it is basically impossible to live in Poland as a Muslim in precisely the same way as in a Muslim majority country (or predominantly Muslim neighborhood) or to order your life so that you have contact mostly or entirely with Muslims so if that's the way you want to live then Poland is definitely not for you. You still might want to visit, in which case you might be interested in the NE where there is a small Polish Muslim (Tatar) community.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatar#Polish_Tatars
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240  
11 Nov 2008 /  #26
i heard polish people were very racist and that is coming from my girlfriend who is polish and speaks very little english

how do you know what she was saying if her english is so bad? maybe she said they love muslims over there hah. mosques and halal meat in Poland? good luck with that.
noimmigration  
11 Nov 2008 /  #27
ash786 have you managed to force your polish girlfriend to wear a burka or hijab yet ?

I was aware that when muslims marry non muslim woman, that woman has to convert.
gtd 3 | 639  
11 Nov 2008 /  #28
Ash....we know what life SHOULD be like and what life really IS like.

Poland is simply not welcoming to other races and religions. It is just reality. You will not be treated as you wish here and most likely will never integrate but rather live within a closed community of those like you. That is if you even stay here long enough. Her family will probably not accept you...they may be polite at first but in the long run it will not be pleasant. You also have to consider the possibility that she is caught up in you because you are 'different' and 'exotic' and when that wears off she will be done with you. It is extremely common though not always the case.

Sorry to be a downer but that is just the way it is.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387  
11 Nov 2008 /  #29
can anyone tell me which area of poland has the most number of muslim people living there

There is a Muslim community in Warsaw. They mix with other religions, share special days etc.

I'm sorry I cant remember where I read about them, but it was on a Polish news website.

I do remember that an important part of their success was intergration.
pingwin 2 | 117  
11 Nov 2008 /  #30
Her family will probably not accept you...they may be polite at first but in the long run it will not be pleasant. You also have to consider the possibility that she is caught up in you because you are 'different' and 'exotic' and when that wears off she will be done with you. It is extremely common though not always the case.

I hear what you are saying gtd, but that's not always the case. I have very close friend who went through this. Her family did not accept him at first, but now they can't stop raving about him and how he treats her and the family. I guess the only difference is she's here in the states and not in Poland, but her family in Poland has accepted him as well. They both visited their families with their son and I couldn't be more help for the both of them.

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