UK, Ireland / Recruitment agencies advertise for Polish only workers [162]

I do however, condemn these little idiots who go stabbing foreigners with screwdrivers. I have no sympathy for this kind of behaviour whatsoever.

So whatever you choose to do, don't blame these foreigners for your situation. They're poor people just like you, trying to survive just like you. It's the employers (Not ALL employers!) businessmen and politicians who are responsible for all this mess in the first place. (And please don't give me any excuses about how easy it is to blame people up in the office, because they simply are responsible in this case!)

Another gory detail: We pay taxes to support agricultural business, but these farmers will not or hire as less Dutch people as possible. So they are the worst parasites I can think of in my society.

They're okay with the fact I pay taxes, (For THEM!) but they don't want to hire me? WTF? Is this having a sense of community?? Yeah, I'm pissed off. People like us are being played against eachother here, and the worst part is, some of us actually buy all this crap and get violent to one another.

I think better solutions are petitions, researches, questionnaires, and a lot of protesting. (Just like they do in France!) In other words, solidarity. We're decent people right?

UK, Ireland / Recruitment agencies advertise for Polish only workers [162]


Cool, I just want to make sure people speak out against this behaviour at all times. (You know, we had a member here once, called No Immigration, and he thought burning Polish people was something to laugh about..

We can complain about everything, and I don't blame anyone for doing that, but really, I think we should organize ourselves and join our Labour Unions en massé? (I really think that would change atleast something!)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but most young people aren't really aware of, or interested in joining their Labour Unions or Trade Unions anymore? (It's one of those things I've noticed around me, and I've gathered that much from the usual bit of conversation!)

You just know there's something profoundly wrong with your society when one person recieves a bonus for wrecking a company, and the other gets fired because he or she works too hard!

Bertie? Who's that?


Nobody said the world was fair. Ofcourse. I've heard that one far too many times. So basically you're saying.. It's okay for these people to rip us off? Basically they're stealing from everyone. Oh, and another thing.. You can't build a house without a solid foundation, so if you undermine your local economy, you'll see that it will become everyone's problem sooner or later.

..and probably sooner than you might think!

UK, Ireland / Recruitment agencies advertise for Polish only workers [162]


This has nothing to do with a chance in life and you know it. It's all about slavery and cheap labour. If the West really wants to give people a chance in life they should invest in countries like Poland, and perhaps Africa.. So all those people can make a decent wage for themselves, in their own countries. Immigration is a fairytale. It will never work, because of this simple reason..

Most people only migrate to wealthier countries, they're probably never going to migrate to poorer countries. Result? Wealthier countries will get overcrowded eventually, and the poorer countries will eventually miss the people they need the most to become a wealthier economy.. Not even mentioning the fact that they could become a healthier trade partner, which would help other countries, aswell the investing parties!

:)

Oh, and if everybody deserves a chance in life, why doesn't that philosophy work for the local people? (Especially not for younger people!)


How about having a salary that's 20 times the salary of the lowest paid worker out there? (Which should be more than enough!) If Management wants a bonus, they will have to give the employee a bonus too! If Management wants a raise, they will have to raise the employees wages too!

Now *that* would be fair. It would also motivate people to work. It would definitely restore some trust..


I agree wholeheartedly! (Oh, and if people could be convinced to have less children for a few generations, than that would be one of the best solutions too!) Why kill eachother if we can all decide to create more space for future generations?

:)

Hey, what do I know? I'm talking rubbish right?

UK, Ireland / Recruitment agencies advertise for Polish only workers [162]


Well, I'm all for practice what you preach! (Or don't preach at all!) I think we've seen enough hypocrisy and false pretentions?


Well, if you can't even pay your bills, or just barely, you'll find out what it's like when you only live to work. When you only live to work, you'll see that your life will become meaningless, pointless and very lonely. (This causes anger, disappointment, and stress for a lot of people!) How do you expect someone to stay motivated when there is no room for improvement, self development, or even a social life? That's one.

If an employee recieves a bonus when Management does, the employee will know he or she recieves a fair treatment, and won't feel used. Also, the employee will know that when the company does well for itself, he or she might benefit from this too! (Which also creates an atmosphere of teamwork and spirit!) Again, everyone within a company works for the company, so everyone is responsible for its eventual success or failure? (As a team!) So I really don't see why Management should have the exclusive right to bonuses! Alright, there will always be a difference in salary, but to some degree this is very understandable. (Even for me!) That's two.

It will make Management think twice about exorbitant bonuses, knowing that they will have to share eventual success with all employees. (Which is only fair in the first place!) It will prevent this grabbing culture from getting even worse! That's three.

:)


Well, I'm informed.

;)

UK, Ireland / Recruitment agencies advertise for Polish only workers [162]


Oh, I know all too well, that's why I've been alone, not being able to achieve anything for myself for the last ten years. (I would get a job, I would lose my job within a few months, I would spend all my saved money on rent, insurance policies and groceries to fill the gaps in between, whilst looking for a new job!)

So spare me, I'm just speaking my mind about how I think society should work. (Just because I know it's possible!) Futile? Perhaps. I'm not bothered, I'm not going anywhere, so if I'm going to waste my time, I might aswell try to exchange my vieuws, along with some positive ideas?


I know that! I'm just telling you that they could do both, if only they would use their grey matter!


I said most people don't, and for good reasons. (Which ofcourse means that some people do!)

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Who's trying to degrade Fresians? They're the strongest working horses in the world! (Okay, maybe not the fastest!) So enlighten me, what's so dumb about historical facts? Hey, we've got our pride too you know!

:P

..besides, if you mess with Krysia, you're going to have to mess with me!

Love / My Perfect Love Story so I thought [73]

Alright, so in those two years you've never met her, and you've never slept with her?

Hey, too bad, you've waited far too long with meeting her, (Okay, maybe you've tried, and maybe you couldn't!) and now she has met someone else! That's just how it works.. You have to actually be there for her.. So move on?

:)

Love / Real relationship with a polish girl [26]


I agree with you. There's only one problem. I open the front door, I walk through town for my usual dose of daily abuse. So far, I've always managed to reach the bar or club in one piece, only to find out that most people my age aren't there, because they probably don't enjoy this type of atmosphere that much either. Or could it be they are simply too busy chatting back home?

I could probably understand a lot of people who are looking for friends or even companionship this way. It's hard to make new friends when you're still single in your late twenties, and especially when you're working shifts. (I usually have to work when normal people are sleeping, and I usually have to sleep when normal people are working!) I have to miss a lot of Friday nights because of my work.

Dilemma.

I myself never had a webcam, and you won't find me on social networking sites either! I think it's gay. (Or lesbian, whatever!) I prefer eye-contact aswell, but like I've said, I could probably understand a lot of people. Especially when you're a boy or a man, it can be really rough out there when you're walking alone.

;)

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I agree, but I'm afraid some people will never learn.

Love / what do polish guys think of spanish girls? [42]

No tengo ninguna idea..

Love / what do polish guys think of spanish girls? [42]

Well, you're the one who's asking what Polish guys think of Spanish girls.. I guess there aren't too many Polish guys on here at the moment?

;)

News / The Polish Economy and its future [101]


No they haven't. Unless you're paying 248.000 € for a house. (Average housing price here at the moment!) Not even mentioning the huge difference in tax, prices and salary.

I'm just saying that if we were to lower our taxes with only one percent, we would see a dramatic increase in wealth already. We have this system, because it enables us to invest heavily in public healthcare, aid programs and infrastructure.

The only reason Poland has more stability at the moment is because of all the funding from other EU members. I'm happy to hear that this crisis hasn't affected you guys too bad, but don't blow your own trumpet just yet. It's the same for everyone world-wide, and thanks to a few greedy people who refuse to listen, I don't think we've seen the last of this crisis yet. I don't think anyone can predict the outcome.

Not being pessimistic or negative, just being realistic. Things need to change dramatically, but I don't see much changing to be honest. I hear a lot of pep-talk, but I don't see too much action.

I wish people could do more for themselves, there are a lot of people with great ideas out there, but unfortunately the oil industrials seem to think differently. No matter how you look at this, we will run out of oil and gas one day, and some people say this will start to happen within the next ten years.

Let's hope so. Maybe that'll change something for the better.

News / The Polish Economy and its future [101]


Oh, I'm sorry if I came across like that, but I didn't see it as a Poland vs. Holland thing. I just wanted to explain something about our country, because from reading your post I was under the impression you thought your economy was just as strong as ours, and this simply isn't the case. I don't mean to say it's better over here, but we have a different system.

However, I wish it was, because the stronger your economy will be, the more we can do for eachother.


You could vieuw it as a paradox, but roller coaster or not, I think you'll be happy to have been on that roller coaster once everything has calmed down. I wish everyone well, it seems we're all in for the same ride..

:)

Love / what do polish guys think of spanish girls? [42]

Ahem..

Spanish girls???


I think you understand the basics of conversation? If you start with insulting people yourself, you shouldn't expect a kind reply. (To be honest, I didn't scroll up that far, but I just did because you pointed it out.)


Ah, but then again, it's a public discussion forum, and I'm afraid everyone is allowed into any conversation. You should invite a couple of friends to your MSN or something if you're looking for a private conversation.

;)


I know it's a part of Spanish culture, just like it was a part of Roman culture to throw slaves into their arena to fight to the death. Or to throw Christians before a pack of starved lions. Or how about stoning women? That's also part of a culture in some countries..

I mean to say, just because something is part of a certain culture, doesn't mean that it's right. Cultures change. Spain is member of the EU, and I think Spain will have to get used to animal rights sooner or later.

Oh, and by the way, I'm a Social-Liberal. Which is something completely different than your concept of a Liberal.

;)


Are you suffering from some kind of Amnesia? You've been bothering me about Gay Marriage for ages! Seriously, I'm wondering why Gay Marriage seems to be such a hot item for you.


What has me being Dutch have to do with wanting to borrow her dress? I think she looks much better in that dress than I ever would? So no thank you, let's leave all the dresses to women. I would like to take her dress off though, and take her to my bed, if only she didn't mind..

:)

Face it, she might aswell come with me, because it seems that you're too busy with Gay Marriages.

:P

Life / Car stereo thieves - is this a problem in Poland? [23]

I guess you've been away for a while? It's actually 1.7 these days.

;)

Love / Gay Interracial Polish Dating [36]


Oh really? Well, long before Christianity, and even longer before Islam, even before the Roman empire, and before the first Pyramids in Egypt were built, all kind of human beings travelled around the whole world, and they used to trade with eachother, exchange news with eachother, exchange knowledge with eachother, and they even formed bonds and relationships with eachother.

How is that sick? I'm talking about your ancestors, my ancestors.. No differences there, and if you go back long enough, you'd see we all have the same roots.

You're talking about a multi-cultural society as if it's some sort of futuristic concept. Well, maybe you should consider this food for thought? (I don't think it would hurt you to think about this for a few seconds!) Even if we had an all white society, there would still be Pagans, Wiccans, Witches, Hippies, Atheïsts, Catholics, Protestants, Agnosts, Christians, Satanists, Druïds, Scientists, Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, Masons, Mormons, Jehova Witnesses, Heathens.. You name them!

My point? We've always been, and always will be a multi-cultural society, regardless on which continent, or which country we live in.

Why would you be against the whole idea of different cultures living together, but be all for different sexual preferences? (Hey, it's a different choice, a different lifestyle, so why not call it a different culture?) How can you be so selective? I know it may seem like just another smartass question to you, but don't you think a straight, Iranian or Asian Catholic has more in common with a British Catholic than the average British Lesbian or Gay person has?

Hey, I don't mean to offend you, but don't you remember how Jewish people got treated because of their cultural differences? I think deep, deep down, you're smarter than this Shelley. (I think you should be anyway!)

;)

Love / Gay Interracial Polish Dating [36]

I wish everyone would be free to have sex with someone they like, or love, without having to worry about one of their Ultra-Christian, Ultra-Muslim, Ultra-Protestant, Ultra-Catholic, Ultra-Jewish, Ultra-Whatever-Religion or even Ultra-Sexist neighbours who undoubtedly will want their heads cut off, just for doing something that should be considered as something completely natural, or normal.

:)

Oh, and immoral?

Raping little children in a church, that's immoral. Burning people who say the earth isn't flat, that's immoral. Expelling, or excluding people from society, for no good reason, that's immoral. Humilliating, insulting, and threatening someone with death, along with the rest of the people who according to you, do fit in your community, that's immoral. Denying you've made just as many mistakes in the past, that's immoral. (For those who don't realize, that's also called lying.) Accusing someone else of things you've done yourself, or have even helped causing yourself, that's immoral. Stoning someone to death for cheating on their partners, that's immoral. Discrediting, gossiping, spreading lies and promoting hatred against someone just because he or she has different ideas, vieuws, opinions or preferences than you, that's immoral. Restricting people in their personal development, that's immoral. Taking advantage of hard working people, that's immoral. Giving yourself and your friends a bonus in times of economical decline, that's immoral. Oppressing people emotionally, spiritually, economicallly, financially or physically, that's immoral. Mistreating, discriminating, abusing, hurting, harming, humilliating, torturing or even killing someone because of his or her sexual preference, skin-colour or culture, that's immoral. Calling someone else immoral, while you've been, or even are being immoral yourself, that's immoral. Dehumanizing and demonizing whole groups of people, based on differences, that's immoral. Racism, bigotry, sexism, discrimination, and war are also immoral. Allowing a Corporate Business to eliminate human rights activists, that's immoral. Damaging our natural environment in the name of progress and prosperity, that's immoral. Driving cars on oil, and using gas when we already have other technologies which could've been put to use already, that's immoral. Taking away the future from the younger generation because of your own desire and lust for status, and material wealth, that's immoral. Slave labour, cheap labour, forced labour, that's immoral. Telling uneducated people in Africa that they shouldn't use condoms, that's immoral. Torturing people without any kind of evidence, that's immoral. Taking advantage of girls who were dragged into the red light districts by people trafickers, that's immoral. Demonizing other religions and cultures, while those religions and cultures are basically based on the same religion and culture as yours, that's immoral. Pressuring people to confess their so-called sins, only to use that information against them, that's immoral. Pressuring people to follow your religion, or else! That's immoral. Oh, and forcing your broken fairytales of conformity upon others to make them see things your way, that's just downright stupid..

:)

Thank you for this embarrassing display of total arrogance, complete ignorance, and self-righteousness. Fail. Exit. Next..

Love / Gay Interracial Polish Dating [36]


Ah, but I'm not the one who's holy, or even all knowing. I'm not the one who speaks for, and acts on behalf of a God. (No who's holy and all knowing?) In fact, I do realize that I'm not better than any of you. I'm not the one who calls someone else immoral either, I'm simply making comparissons, and hope he might acknowledge the hypocrisy of it all, before insulting someone else for being who he or she is.

My point is, our whole way of life, and the system it's based on, could be considered as immoral just aswell. No one is infallible, and all of us can be immoral sometimes, in one way or another. The fact some people don't seem to be aware of that in the first place, is what I would call ignorance of the worst kind. (To actually believe you can do no wrong in the bigger picture, or to deny your own responsibility in the bigger picture!) With arrogance I mean that some people seem to think they have the God-given right to call someone else immoral, and to base such verdicts solely on someone's nature.

One's (Wether he or she is straight, gay or lesbian!) morality or sense of values doesn't have a god-damn thing to do with one's sexual nature.

Holy? I think that's a misconception, because if someone opposes religion here, then that would be me. Because I can accept the fact that I can be immoral sometimes, because I can accept the fact that I am human, and I oppose this self-righteousness, because no God ever told me wrong from right.. Who the hell is he to tell other people that they are suffering from an immoral disease?

So it's actually him who claims to know everything. Not me. He's the one who's speaking on behalf of a God. Not me. It's actually fine with me if you want to say something about me, or question my point of vieuw, or question my motives, or question whatever you wish to question about me, but atleast get it straight when you do.

I guess we will never understand eachother if we don't exchange our vieuws. Look, I'm not the personification of all that is righteous, and I'm sure as hell not trying to portray myself as the embodiment of enlightenment. I'm just speaking my mind, and I strongly oppose this medieval way of thinking.

But if you think you have better suggestions, or better explanations, then by all means, go ahead and speak your mind.

:)



How on earth could anyone call the above an example of love, respect, tolerance, or even a motivation for equality I wonder?

They will never be seen as equal, and they will never be respected for who they are, for as long as you keep accusing them of anti-social or unnatural behaviour, or even associate their sexual nature with a disease. Really, I can't help but noticing how you contradict yourself, and I can't help but thinking it's hypocrisy at its worst to claim that you're somehow morally correct, and have a better understanding of moral values, just because you happen to be a heterosexual.

:(

Or am I missing something here?

Love / Gay Interracial Polish Dating [36]


It's not an ailment. It's a feeling those people have. (Just like some guys feel like a girl inside, and some girls feel like a guy inside.) Just like you feel like yourself. So how would you feel about it if people called Heterosexuality an ailment?

Would you feel respected?


I'm sorry, but there are enough people out there who would tear someone apart for less reasons than being mad.. Now, how mad is that?


How would you know? I'm not a Gay or Lesbian, so I don't know how it feels to be Gay or Lesbian. My point is, if we're going to talk about immorality, and be perfectly honest about it, then everybody would have done, is about to do, or has done something that could be considered immoral. (Which all depends on your own moral compass!) I don't think it's a complete mystery that everyone has their own ideas about morality?

So why point the finger at eachother? Why do you feel the need to ''treat'' someone else when he or she feels fine? When I was in the army, there was a girl stationed with us, and she happened to be a lesbian, and she was a very positive individual. She also happened to believe in God.


Oh really? Consider this: We've passed 6 billion people, and we're almost reaching the figure of 7 billion people who live on this planet. Now, imagine a world without Gays and Lesbians.. If Gays and Lesbians never existed, then we already would've had huge overpopulation problems ages ago!

For your children, invest in green technology. Adjust your goals when it comes to solving problems. Adjust your priorities. You should know that fumes of Methane are already escaping from the bottom of the Ocean near Africa. Both the Polar Caps are melting rapidly, and nearly 17.000 animal and plant species are being threatened with extinction.

:(

..and you're concerned about Gays and Lesbians.

Language / I can't roll my r's damn it! [12]


Hey, you can expect a few jokes, but you shouldn't take any of that as a personal insult really. (I mean, I can laugh when my Polish friends try to speak Dutch!) Besides, most tourists who visit Poland don't speak any Polish.. So even if you might know a little, I'm sure your attempts will be greatly appreciated!

Have fun! (You might try a glass of water!)

News / KRAUTS RESUME POLE-BASHING [60]


I can deal with controversy when there's a progressive thought behind it, but in this case you're right ofcourse.

:)


I've met enough Germans who were alright, and I'm pretty sure I've met more Germans than you. (I live near the coast and its beaches, which seem to attract a lot of German tourists all year.) Oh, and I don't think you should compare the younger generation to the older generation either.

News / KRAUTS RESUME POLE-BASHING [60]


Well, I've been told some girls *do* like a hairy chest..

;)

Life / Polish culture differences from the rest of Europe. [19]


Politicians such as Fortuyn do not represent all of Holland. Oh, and about 80% of the third generation immigrants from Islamic countries are fully integrated, have jobs, live our culture and speak our language perfectly. (Ofcourse there are problems, and you've got a few racists everywhere!)


You clearly don't know what you're talking about. In Utrecht, a Dutch guy got shot by a police officer, after he threatened them with a knife, and Dutch Hooligans saw it as an opportunity to riot. (Along with some local youths.)

As for the Morrocan-Dutch riots, I would hardly call any of that event a riot.

nrc.nl/opinie/article2019438.ece/Laetitia_Griffith_Het_land_staat_in_brand_was_ongelukkige_woordkeuze - Poor choice of words.

In this article, politicians admit that they weren't informed. The Police Department confirmed that no riots took place. It seems some people have been blowing something out of proportions, just like you're doing..

:)

You gotta love the Media!

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I don't know which articles you've been reading, but it couldn't be much further from the truth. (1 out of 7 women have had an abortion.)

Life / Polish culture differences from the rest of Europe. [19]


No, it was a he, and he was Dutch.


I'm not ignoring anything, I'm not changing definitions around, and I wasn't aware of the fact I gave you that impression, because I don't have that attitude. I gave you factual information, along with more recent news updates.

Do you see Moroccans anywhere? I only see Dutch people.. I could show you more footage, more documentaries, more articles and more intervieuws but it will probably just disappoint you. (I hope you understand that I really can't be bothered to translate all of that because I don't have that much time!) I don't see any reason whatsoever to call these events ethnic conflicts. Oh, and I've seen worse riots around football matches and public dance events..

Love / He keeps adding females friends to his profile .... [41]

Hey Lalka,

Be fair? Your boyfriend is not responsible for what another girl decides to wear (Or in this case, doesn't wear!) when she takes a picture of herself..

The fact that he has female friends on a social network page shouldn't bother you at all, it's normal. Be honest, you probably have male friends on your social network page yourself? You'll have to excuse me, but for some reason, I don't think your boyfriend would have much of a problem with it when one of those boys decides to take off his shirt when he decides to take a new picture of himself? Just ask yourself; How would you feel when he accused you of being sexually interested in some guy when you aren't responsible for the actions of someone else on your social network page?

Alright. The fact he deleted her could mean two things. 1: He cares alot about your feelings. (And puts you before the female friend.) 2: He feels guilty. (Now this should be alarming, because if he did it out of guilt then that would mean he was playing with the thought.)

To be honest, I don't think it's something you should worry about at this point in your relationship. Just don't shoot me if I'm wrong!

;)

Love / He keeps adding females friends to his profile .... [41]

Oh yeah, extemely.

;)

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]


Priceless.

;)

Love / He keeps adding females friends to his profile .... [41]


..says the girl who has hundreds of people on her facebook? I'm sorry, but to me it seems pretty normal to invite or add someone else who is connected to someone I actually know in real life. I think getting to know new people is basically the whole idea or concept behind social networking?

;)


Okay, so how do girls feel about adding boys to their own pages then? (While they're having a relationship I mean!) I'm sorry, I guess I really don't understand the fairness in that? (When you don't accept this behaviour from your boyfriend I mean!)

:S

Love / He keeps adding females friends to his profile .... [41]

Nevermind!