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The Polish Economy and its future


LoneStranger 3 | 382  
24 Feb 2007 /  #1
So what do you think we will have in future?
Will we solve the joblessness problem soon enough?
Comment please... (no racism or thread hijacking/looting/bombarding here I hope)
daffy 23 | 1,508  
24 Feb 2007 /  #2
I tell you in ten years you will see the changes take effect. In 20 years you will be an economic force as part of the EU
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
24 Feb 2007 /  #3
Will we solve the joblessness problem soon enough?

It will be solved in max ten years just because of simple demographic changes, with quite high growth like now in about 4 years.
Crow 139 | 8,302  
24 Feb 2007 /  #4
Good thread

As young economist from Serbia, I would try to contribute to this disscussion.

Maybe, you would like to know that Polish banking sector enters into great competition for investments in Slavic countries vs. Austrian, Greak and Hungarian investitors. Serbian banks are very interesting for Polish bankers.

It seams that Poland wants to protect her (Slavic :) ) interests in startegic regions. Slava Hristu Bogu!

All in all, Serbian public support arriving of investments from Slavic countries (we don`t like German bussines hire; we have bad expiriences with destructive German influence), especialy from big Slavic states such are Poland and Russia. Polish banking sector and rubber industry seek for investments and, Russian Oil and Gas industry comminig with giant steps.

Slovenia also seek for great investments in Serbia. Bulgaria, Ukraine, too.

Poland's largest bank PKO Bank > 87.39% of Serbia's Panonska Banka

Warsaw Independent News 19.04.06

paiz.gov.pl/index/?id=df83971673de5c8e71ca1e2645718dad

Asseco Poland > 55% owner of Asseco Slovakia

paiz.gov.pl/index/?id=2517756c5a9be6ac007fe9bb7fb92611
ArturSzastak 3 | 593  
24 Feb 2007 /  #5
Poland having one of the highest IQ averages for any country in the world, 2nd in Europe to Germany and i believe 4th in the world, the future is very bright. Start with the young ones and they will build the future. Poland will be seeing a huge influx of Copernicuses in the next 10-20 years. Art, Culture, and Technology will grow rapidly and Poland will be one of the greats in Europe once again. Thats what I believe :)
hello 22 | 891  
24 Feb 2007 /  #6
Will we solve the joblessness problem soon enough?

In 10 years Polish citizens will surely not need a visa to visit USA so the problem should be solved by then :) In my opinion, Poland is a nice country to live BUT for some reason the wild spirit of most Poles let them choose other countries to stay and live in.
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
24 Feb 2007 /  #7
Artur, I really like your forecast. If it happens, I may go back to Poland to retire and give English lessons part time :)

Kidding aside, after the past and current struggles, Poland will thrive. You guys need to get rid of all the communist and post communist people in government.

Please vote. It's the best you can do for the country.
Annia  
24 Feb 2007 /  #8
it all down to a country and how it responds, Poland is a new economy and will evolve given the chance....but the people need to stay to make changes....
hello 22 | 891  
24 Feb 2007 /  #9
Poland having one of the highest IQ averages for any country in the world, 2nd in Europe to Germany and i believe 4th in the world, the future is very bright.

The problem is: The smarter the man is, the lazier he is. This applies to Poles like to no other nation. Nations that don't have that "smart" people, but are dilligent and set to achieve a goal as a group will go much further.
ArturSzastak 3 | 593  
24 Feb 2007 /  #10
yes but you always hear everyone who isn't Polish complementing us on how hard we work, so for now that rule doesn't apply. It probably will in the future, though.
hello 22 | 891  
24 Feb 2007 /  #11
To build strong economy, a group of hard-working people who have the same goal is needed. Poles are great as individual workers, but poor as far as group work is concerned.
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
24 Feb 2007 /  #12
Poles are great as individual workers, but poor as far as group work is concerned.

Yes, I agree. Poles need to learn how to work as team. When there is a group of polish people they don't seem to agree on anything. One is smarter than the other. Let the smartest one lead.
sirop14  
26 Feb 2007 /  #13
Halo there friends,

I/we first got involved with the Polish community in Vienna - Trieskiechen refugee camp 1979 - we helped a young Polish couple migrate to Australia.

We have move on between 1981/1987 networked with some of the leading Polish organisation in London - including staff of BRC - British refugee council.

Over the past we have written a number of article on events which led to Mr Lech Walensa starting SOLIDARNOS. We have contributed significantly to changes in poland, the work of Pope John Paul ll - some of the complex issues of EU enlargement, the economic development of the new member state.

We are well know by the large polish centre in Chiswick and our falt in London/Islington is net to the Polish church.

My Country, other African nations were communist. Those of us who contributed to SOLIDARNOS, the work of Pope John Paul ll other politicla events in poland, Russia and the former comecon.

We were made a Fellow of Interdisciplinary/multidisciplinary management in Vienna. Interdisciplinary Management Institute Vienna . We associated with very many leading polish business man.

Please check our reference on account of our training we contributed importantly to Lady Tacther government rebuilding of Britian economy, we have contributed to Priminister John Major, and Priminister Blair economic sucess.

ON account of certain grobe anomality - we wrote to Polish politicians, members of your government explaining who we were. Because we manage many important aspects of EU economic motors - we affered to rebalance the situation in EU recommand/ allow us to start a very unique project in Poland . The EU, poland and the new EU economy would see a very mark change.

Equally we addressed the Blair government not to stop our departure from Britain - with three months they would seen the difference.

We have read many issues about poland and the new EU economy what may happen in 10 years time. Part of our training like we contributed to SOLIDARNOS, to get involved in issues as to mankind chances of surviving the next 10 years and the world economy.

Again we have paid attention to some issues on this forum. The mechanism that motors world economy or the EU can differentiate the willingless of a given nation to comit itself to changes in given situation. We have monitored many aspect of polish economy the past 3 years. We are concern Poland like so many other nations they wait/expect that those that made due impute in a give economic situation do so then they join the band wagon a shout success. This is not about the EU, it is not the European spirit.

Those who are interested read the article in le figaro today about Polish situation in Britain.

We contribute/have contributed to very important aspect / creating of economic synergy for the Former Soviet Union, including China, including the USA, including the Latin america, Asian continent.

Where we live in Islington our neighbour is a Polish lady and she came to live ther shortly after the fatal accident of Dodi AlFayad and Princess Dinana. She has a large cat and a dog.

We have a large platform for our EU community we have been building and the way we have build this comunication platfrom. . We do not know all the rules of this forum about posting links. We have also a great deal of work load.

However we have taken time any very serious polish business man will tell you when some body take the time to come to you please take it seriously.

My country has been building some resonable modest lik with Poland. My grand parents were French and British.

We have put an address to our forum :
fecasecsvs.forumsplace.com

Portal: seyeu.com

sirop14
danny dan 2 | 18  
27 Feb 2007 /  #14
I really want to have faith in you guy, but I don't know what can you do without workers.
Good luck Polond. I hope you will get prettier
FISZ 24 | 2,116  
16 May 2007 /  #15
Morgan Stanley Plunges Into Poland CRE

“We believe Poland’s strong economic growth and its demand for quality real estate provide an attractive opportunity to expand our investment platform”

More jobs maybe? Do PL see this as a bad thing?

globest.com/news/907_907/europe/160676-1.html
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
16 May 2007 /  #16
In 2013 we should reach 70% of average GDP per capita in EU.
zion  
16 May 2007 /  #17
we should

does not mean we will !!!!
daffy 23 | 1,508  
16 May 2007 /  #18
I agree with G, I think Poland WILL
OP LoneStranger 3 | 382  
16 May 2007 /  #19
I think Poland WILL

Thanks.

You all are nice people in a way. Mostly you love my country... so... you are all my friends :)
daffy 23 | 1,508  
16 May 2007 /  #20
you love my country

you wouldn't mind telling Puzzler would you ;) hehe

Seriously though PL's economy is being fed right now on all fronts and you will reep it in 5-10 yrs BIG time i wager €50
regionpolski 33 | 153  
16 May 2007 /  #21
How will Poland tackle an economic system viewed as terribly corrupt? How strong is the influence of gangsters in the economy? Will Poland stop the " brain drain " as its young, well educated populace leave for greener pastures? Will this exodus cause a decrease in the quality of teacher because the best and brightest are somewhere else? I agree that the current growth is great, but these questions can eat away at future growth, causing it to implode.
lef 11 | 478  
16 May 2007 /  #22
In 2013 we should reach 70% of average GDP per capita in EU.

A lot of water is going to flow under the bridge before and if this occurs, and a few possible wild cards in the mean time, ie effects of global warming, downturn in the economy (recession).

When Poland gets richer so do other countries economies, when real estate goes up so do homes in other countries, so Poland returns to square one.

The current world economic system works in such a way that there will always be a minority of rich people and the rest who battle on. There will be rich countries and poor countries, the rich countries would not be rich if there were no poor countries.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
16 May 2007 /  #23
A lot of water is going to flow under the bridge before and if this occurs

So you don't agree that this will happen in 2013 ?
lef 11 | 478  
16 May 2007 /  #24
"Its all happening now brother" The point being a lot can happen in the next 5/10 years, A lot of opportunist have cashed in on the property market in Poland already and homes will not rise and rise at its present tempo. If by example wages sky rocket, how is the government going to pay its aging population pensions etc, (don't tell me print more money lol)

Rich countries are rich and have a high standard of living because they have natural resources or other commodities they can export.
I expect people people in Poland will in time be better off, but need to understand the mechanics of the capitalist system. The will need to adjust to knowing they will have a hugh mortgage on there house which they may never pay off, they will also need to adjust to the fact that they will be under the mercy of greedy shareholders in whatever they purchase.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
17 May 2007 /  #25
Lef, I asked a simpel question. And It wasn't about mortgages...
krysia 23 | 3,057  
17 May 2007 /  #26
Oh oh, he's on a roll...
lef 11 | 478  
17 May 2007 /  #27
Oh are you referring to me or Mr G?

So you don't agree that this will happen in 2013 ?

yes, a lot of water will flow under the bridge, absolutely!
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
17 May 2007 /  #28
yes, a lot of water will flow under the bridge, absolutely!

So the ansewr is... ?
lef 11 | 478  
19 May 2007 /  #29
It should do, you may want to tell me what the GDP might be in the USA/Aust in 2013?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
19 May 2007 /  #30
Why should I care ? We live in Europe.

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