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pawian   
20 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

You're right: actually they were death camps for both Poles and Germans, run by Poles under the supervision of Soviets.

Don`t be silly. Facts are facts. There weren`t Polish gas chambers for Germans. Do you understand the term death camp at all?

Extermination camp (German: Vernichtungslager) and death camp (Todeslager) are usually interchangeable and specifically refer to camps whose primary function was genocide.
In a generic sense, a death camp was a concentration camp that was established for the purpose of killing prisoners delivered there. They were not intended as sites for punishing criminal actions; rather, they were intended to facilitate genocide. Historically, the most infamous death camps were the extermination camps built by Nazi Germany in occupied Poland during World War II


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

I was refering to "only a few thousand victims". Look at the word "only" and think about it.

No. You look at the numbers: firstly, 6 million Polish citizens were killed by Germans and their Soviet helpers. Warsaw alone lost 800.000 people, including 400.000 Jews.

Next, about 10 thousand inmates perished in internment or concentration camps after the war.
Yes, many of those who perished were innocent German civilians, as well as Poles from Silesia.
But some were volskdeutsche or SS members, the worst German scum that had destroyed Poland.

Not an excuse, my friend. That's like saying "you did it first, so it's okay if we do it, too". It's not okay, no matter what.

Your ignorance and lack of imagination surface again. If you lived under German occupation for 5 years and survived, you would sing a different song. :):):)
pawian   
20 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

I just disagreed with Lotnik767 who said that there "never were Polish death camps". Big difference!

Your disagreement proves your ignorance. There weren`t death camps for Germans run by Poles.

"Only a few thousand victims" ... quite a sick way of looking at it, don't you think?

What is sick in saying that only a few thousand German victims, in view of what Germans did in Poland during 5 years of murderous occupation, means Poles were full of forgiveness?????

How can you call someone an animal and at the same time behave like one yourself?

Germans taught Poles how to be brutal. E.g., do you know that most of these camps had been formerly run by Germans during the war?

That is why I say: only several thousand killed innocent Germans is a wonderful result and shows that Poles forgot revenge.
pawian   
20 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

the author should have used the term: nazi camp. If the Nazis run the camp put the name Nazi on it so people will not be confused.

The problem is that Nazis could be of different nationality. Yes, they were mostly Germans, but also Austrian (a lot of them) and from Western countries. Also Eastern nations, especially Lithuania or Latvia had their Nazi SS units, great helpers in the Holocaust.

Using the term Nazis in the article, together with the name of Poland interposed here and there, one can get an impression that some Polish Nazis participated in the Holocaust which is not true.

I believe at this point it appears to be more of a provocation rather than poor reporting containing innocent errors.

Very possible.

Different name, same purpose - killing people.

Poles don`t deny that after the war in which 6 millions Poles, including 3 million Polish Jews, died at German and Soviet hands, very often in a horrible way (massacres during Warsaw Rising, 50.000 civilians killed during 2 days), there were innocent Germans who perished in concentration camps run by Poles.

But juxtaposing these two things, Polish concentration camps for Germans in which a few thousand died, with 6 million Polish victims of the brawl that Germans started, is a bit unfair, don`t you think? It proves your lack of knowledge what Germans really organised in occupied Poland.

I think that only a few thousand German victims is a symbol of Polish forgiveness and refusal to take bigger revenge. Germans should be grateful for that.
pawian   
17 Jul 2009
Life / The cost of kindergardens in Poland [13]

ny 1 got any idea how much it costs monthly to have a child in Kindergarden in Poland? I will be close to Gdansk if that matters...

Before holiday we paid about 250 zlotys for a state kindergarten in Krakow every month, with 3 meals every day.
Private kindergartens charge much more, prices start from 500 zlotys.
pawian   
17 Jul 2009
UK, Ireland / Irish Primary schools to teach Polish [223]

Children as young as four are to be taught Polish in Northern Ireland primary schools from September. Because of the large numbers of Polish families who have moved to the province and almost 1,700 Polish children in schools, the language has been added to the Spanish and Irish already on offer.

Polish colonization of smaller countries is slow, but inevitable......
pawian   
15 Jul 2009
Language / Any sweet Polish phrases [255]

Hej, pipeczku, daj dupa :)

Where did you hear that? :):):):)
pawian   
14 Jul 2009
News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [428]

This moment has come. Jerzy Buzek was elected the head of European Parliament.



The European Parliament has elected former Polish Prime Minister Jerzy Buzek as the chamber's president.
The vote on the 69-year-old Polish conservative was the first job of the newly-elected parliament in Strasbourg.
Mr Buzek is the first politician from the former communist bloc to chair the parliament. He received 555 votes in a first ballot.
The elections last month produced an assembly of 736 MEPs with the centre-right forming the biggest bloc.
Mr Buzek headed a coalition government in Poland in 1997-2001. He joined the European Parliament in 2004, the year of Poland's EU accession.
"Human rights will be a priority," Mr Buzek told MEPs, recalling the key role of the Solidarity trade union movement in democratising Poland in the 1980s.


news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8148729.stm
pawian   
3 Jul 2009
News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [428]

Why would anyone want to be like the USA?
1 percent of it's population in prisons.

Poland locks up most prisoners in EU
thenews.pl
24.06.2009
There are more prisoners in Poland's jails than in any other EU member state, shows a report by Eurostat. Between 2005 and 2007, there were on average 607,000 people in prison in the European Union, which is an equivalent to around 123 prisoners per 100,000 inhabitants.

The highest average prisoner rates were recorded in Poland (228 prisoners per 100,000 inhabitants) and the Baltic countries: Lithuania (232), Latvia (293) and Estonia (302).
The lowest rates were registered in Slovenia (60) and Scandinavian countries: Finland (68), Denmark (71) and Sweden (77).
Out of 607,000 prisoners in the European Union 90,200 are jailed in Poland, which is almost the same number as in Turkey (90,730 prisoners). Meanwhile, in Germany, which has twice the population of Poland`s, there are fewer prisoners (73,320). Worldwide the biggest amount of people held in prison is in the US (2,375,620).

pawian   
30 Jun 2009
Food / Mushroom Picking Parties (Poland tradition) [74]

not true

True. There are more. I forgot about them.

- one of the borowik family can be mildly toxic if consumed along alcohol - borowik ceglastopory - Boletus erythropus- quite common where I live - and quite tasty too

Not true. :):):)

It happens that during holidays that I spent in the mountains I consume large quantities of mountain borowik ceglastopory

together with large quantities of mountain alcohol:

And guess what!!??? :):):):)
Miracle!!!

PS. Check the mushroom guide once again. The mushroom which causes poisoning with alcohol is Boletus Luridus - borowik ponury. :):):)
Z grzybiarskim pozdrowieniem: Darz bór!!!
pawian   
29 Jun 2009
News / Plane crash in Krakow. [15]

The plane was probably too heavy. 4 people, max fuel and baggage. Witnesses say it had problems with taking off.
This is the runway in the city:

Planes making acrobatics sometimes fly a few meters over the crowd. I have been always worried about accidents, when we go to the picnic. We went yesterday too.
pawian   
25 Jun 2009
News / Polish minority abroad and minorities in Poland [71]

Poles are more tolerant when it comes to views on Polish Lithuanian history.
Lithuanians still have to learn this tolerance. Give them some time.

Podlasie gets Polish and Lithuanian signs
thenews.pl
23.06.2009
Signs with names of localities in the Punsk area of the Podlasie region, north east Poland, will now be in both the Polish and Lithuanian languages.

By the end of June, some thirty villages will have their road signs changed to comply with a local council decision, says Jan Wojczulis, deputy mayor of Punsk.

"We held consultations in 33 villages," he told Polish Radio. "There will be Polish and Lithuanian names in 30 of them, as the remaining 3 have an almost entirely Polish community."

The project has been financed by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Administration.
The Podlasie province is one of the most diverse, culturally, of all of Poland`s regions, being inhabited by many different minorities over the years.

The Podlasie province used to be in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, though since the union with Poland in 1569 and the formation with the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth the province was transferred to the Polish Crown, only to be extinguished in 1795 during partition.

In the national census of 2002 there were 5.097 Lithuanians registered in the Podlasie province.

pawian   
25 Jun 2009
News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [428]

I am Polish.

Oh, I see. Hello, compatriot. :):)

Poles to unveil Solidarity monument outside German parliament
By DPA
Jun 16, 2009
Warsaw - Polish parliamentarians will begin a two-day visit to Berlin Tuesday, which will see them unveil a monument to Solidarity, the shipbuilders' union which helped topple communism, in front of the German parliament.

Solidarity helped bring Poland partly-free elections in 1989 and lead to changes across the Soviet bloc that later brought down the Iron Curtain.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Hoerst Keller will take part in the unveiling, Polish Radio said.
The monument contains a piece of a wall from the Gdansk shipyard where Walesa held massive protests in the 1980s. The fragment is meant as a reminder of Solidarity's role in toppling the Berlin Wall and uniting Germany.

Polish officials were also invited to events commemorating the 1953 uprising in then East Germany. The uprising by construction workers on June 17 was brutally suppressed after an intervention of Soviet troops.

pawian   
25 Jun 2009
Food / Mushroom Picking Parties (Poland tradition) [74]

Look what giant mushrooms we pick in the forest:

you should be careful with alcohol after eating mushrooms - some normally edible species can make you ill after following them with alcohol

Practically, only one species:
pawian   
24 Jun 2009
News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [428]

Typical English self-control. :):):):):)

From King Rat by James Clavell, one of my fav books:
"No." The King would have continued but the eggs were done. He slipped the frypan off the stove and nodded to Peter Marlowe. "Plates're in back of you," he said. Then he added not a little proudly, "Lookee here!"

They were the best fried eggs Peter Marlowe had ever seen, so he paid the King the greatest compliment in the English world. "Not bad," he said flatly. "Not too bad, I suppose," and he looked up at the King and kept his face as impassive as his voice and thereby added to the compliment.

"What the hell are you talking about, you son of a *****?" the King said furiously. "They're the best goddam eggs you've seen in your life!"


:):):):):):):):)

How much of this traditional reserve have the English managed to preserve? Judging from the forum, not much? :):):):):)
pawian   
24 Jun 2009
News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [428]

It seems that some Brits imagine things which aren`t true.

there is my point, you have missed out the last 8 years, when the EU has expanded ten fold and immigrants have been coming to the UK because of numerous conflicts, wars around the world. I'm not willing to accept numbers from over 8 years ago.

The same doubts were expressed by some Brits in 2001 but they proved ungrounded.
Summary of a report for the Cabinet Office by Saggar and Drean, 2001 using information from national polls[full report]
The UK still possesses a significant proportion of people who express intolerant attitudes to migrants and ethnic minorities. Common majority sentiments identified in surveys are that "There are too many in Britain", that "They get too much help", that "Migration controls are insufficiently tight" and people polled "Fell less positive towards minority groups".

The British population has a highly erroneous impression concerning the number of ethnic minorities and migrants in the UK. In one poll, the average estimate of the size of the ethnic minority population in the UK was 26% of the population, despite the correct figure being closer to 10%. In another it was 20%.When asked to estimate the proportion of the population consisting of migrants and asylum seekers, the modal estimate was 51%despite the real situation being closer to 4%. The British Population also tends to confuse ethnic minorities, immigrants and asylum seekers as one group.

People are significantly more likely to be hostile to migrants and minorities if they(British people) are: · Older · Poorer · Less educated · Living in the North

Groups that are more likely to be intolerant are also likely to have erroneous views of the size of minority populations.
etc etc

mighealth.net/uk/index.php/Public_Attitudes_and_Ethnic_Minorities_in_the_UK
pawian   
24 Jun 2009
News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [428]

Just because you do not want to let people into your country it does not mean you fear them, it simply means you want to secure the future of your nation.

:):):) The funniest thing is I don`t cease to think about the future and prosperity of my country.
Look at the facts then:

Poland:
Population growth rate:
-0.047% (2009 est.)
country comparison to the world: 210

Birth rate:
10.04 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
country comparison to the world: 195

Total fertility rate:
1.28 children born/woman (2009 est.)
country comparison to the world: 209

Ethnic groups:
Polish 96.7%, German 0.4%, Belarusian 0.1%, Ukrainian 0.1%, other and unspecified 2.7% (2002 census)


cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/PL.html

What future can you expect with such indexes?

As for your criticism of British immigration policy, you surely exaggerate:

UK
Ethnic groups:
white (of which English 83.6%, Scottish 8.6%, Welsh 4.9%, Northern Irish 2.9%) 92.1%, black 2%, Indian 1.8%, Pakistani 1.3%, mixed 1.2%, other 1.6% (2001 census)
pawian   
24 Jun 2009
News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [428]

Why Asia?

Why not Asia? Consider the Vietnamese or the Chinese. They are hard-working, unassuming people who contribute much to the country`s welfare.

Look what it cost us, Jews, Germans, Ukrainians, all hostile to the Polish state, i'm all for immigrants but we need to be picky about who to let in, no Jews, no Africa or Asia and definitely no Muslims, learning from experience is a must.

This is a xenophobic view based on some national inferiority complex. You fear Jews, Germans, Ukrainians, Africans, Asians. In this way, with your pickiness, you will have no immigrants at all and in 100 years time Poland`s population will be 20 million. :):):):)

I am not prejudiced and believe in the power of the Polish melting pot. There is room for everybody.

Sorry buddy thats not tolerance, thats because Polish girls from low income regions behave like wh0res on account of seeing marriage with a foreigner as a means of social advance.

Funny, you also belong to males who call sexually active women ******, but the same active men are studs and heroes? :):):):)
I thought you are above it already. Another hurt-male-pride inferiority complex? :):):):) Think, maybe those coloured guys Polish women are fascinated with have got sth that Polish men don`t have???? :):):):):):) I know or knew a few girls, they weren`t from low income regions and didn`t dream about marriage at all.
pawian   
22 Jun 2009
News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [428]

We only have to improve our birth rate and bring the emigrants back home.

Convincing Polish women to have more children might be difficult. Poland is depopulating fast and if sth is not done soon, in 2050 there will be 5 million Poles less than now. We won`t be able to keep our status of an important country then.

That is why we need more immigrants from Asia and Eastern Europe. From Africa too, I don`t mind. The more, the merrier. How? Polish men are bored with Polish women and the opposite. You can see it in Great Britain where cross-cultural and cross-racial partnerships and marriages with one Polish partner are very common.

When immigrants come to Poland en mass, they will provide Polish males and females more incentive to reproduce.

You might think that I am crazy and don`t realise the dangers of mass immigration. But I do and see no danger. I believe that Polish culture is so attractively rich that immigrants will accept or even adopt it as theirs without problems :):):) Just like in the past - the Commonwealth of Nations.

I also believe in Polish tolerance - that except for individual cases of moronic racists, Poles will accept foreign immigrants and be able to live together in communities.

Maybe I am naive but it is my modest dream.
pawian   
22 Jun 2009
Food / Can anyone teach me an easy and fast Polish dish? [40]

christy1991

I found one Polish soup in chinese web,it has bright color,can you tell me what is it?

It is chłodnik litewski.

Eastern European Recipes

Cold Beet Soup (Chlodnik - Poland)

recipegoldmine.com/worldeasteuro/cold-beet-soup.html
pawian   
18 Jun 2009
Life / "K*rwa"-why do young Poles find this word so cool ? [67]

Primitive people who have scarce vocabulary and little to say tend to use it often. I also find it repulsive.
On the other hand, it is a good and quick means of recognition when you meet somebody. A few words by him/her and you know you prefer to stay away from the guy.

I heard so many people 60+ who use this word, that it cannot be a generation thing.

Well, probably in some pathologically deranged circles. :):):):)
pawian   
16 Jun 2009
News / FRENCH SNUB POLISH WAR EFFORT [50]

Sarkozy has faikled to invited Poland's head of state to this year's' Normandy (D-Day) landing celebration

Asked to comment on the issue, Prime Minister Donald Tusk said that a lack of invitation for the Polish president is "regrettable" , adding that relations between Polish and French presidents have not been too good since President Kaczynski refused to sign the Lisbon Treaty following the Irish referendum last year.

"President Sarkozy made it clear that he treated President Kaczyñski's refusal to ratify the Treaty as a matter of personal concern to him," Tusk said.


Poland protests after D-Day celebrations snub
thenews.pl
01.06.2009

pawian   
16 Jun 2009
News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [428]

Polish general in NATO HQ
thenews.pl
12.06.2009
Poland will appoint seven generals to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. One of them will be deployed in the NATO headquarters in Norfolk, USA.
Poland will have twice as many generals in NATO's structures as a result of the alliance's command reform and recognition of Polish troops who participate in NATO's missions.

According to NATO's rules, each member country is allowed to have a certain amount of so-called `stars,' which correspond to the number of generals employed by the alliance. So far, Poland has had four stars but after the command reform it will have seven stars.

"In NATO's slang having seven `stars' is synonymous to having a deputy commander in the Allied Command Transformation headquarters in Norfolk. The Polish General will have to share the post with his Italian counterpart, taking turns. Nevertheless, it is a great success for Poland as we have never held such a high office in the NATO," said Defence Minister Bogdan Klich.