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z_darius   
3 Jul 2009
Work / Canadian Woman Moving To Warsaw [29]

A Certificate in English Language Teaching to Adults from Cambridge University (a CELTA) is what all the schools here want to see from an inexperienced teacher.

If one wants to work for a school.
z_darius   
3 Jul 2009
Work / Canadian Woman Moving To Warsaw [29]

TESOL certificate? what is this, and where do i get it?

It's know in Canada as teaching English as a second language.
You'll find a lot of academic debate on what particular shade of one or another certificate you should get. I'd say, just refresh your English grammar on a formal level (you need to know what a noun or a tense is). Your local college may offer a course or two that won't replace a full degree's curriculum but they may at least give you a solid understanding of what you need to get into. Check that out if you still have some time before you leave Canada.

Teaching English in Poland can be a source of a very decent income. Most of the time better than it is in Canada.
z_darius   
3 Jul 2009
Life / Poles in Poland: How did you learn your English? [60]

chinczyk, just living in an English speaking country is not good enough. I have known Italians and Poles who have lived in the US and Canada for 30 years. They still can't communicate in English even on a basic level. My wife is a nurse and she managed to learn more Italian in a week (in order to communicate with a patient) than that patient managed to learn English since 1955 when she came to Canada.

Also, a lot depends on what you understand by "fluent". About half the university students in the city where I live are Asians. Some speak really good English, but most... well they are not fluent at all and their English is an objects of daily jokes among English speaking students.

I managed to get a relative fluency in English before I set foot in an English speaking country. Living here helps for sure, but you still need to work on language skills.
z_darius   
3 Jul 2009
News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

punish a society for sins from the past - absolutely not.

Hard to disagree, or agree, for that matter.
Only sins from the past should be punished. You can't really punish anybody for sins from the future, can you?
z_darius   
3 Jul 2009
Life / Racist violence in Poland [172]

By the time we had beaten 3 guys and rest of them ran away. Thats poland.

OK, so Polish racism consists of a few German guys and one Indian ganging uo together and beating up Poles.

Now we know how Harry gets his Polish hate crime stats from.
z_darius   
3 Jul 2009
UK, Ireland / Friend told "just allow your son to forget Polish" by school. [96]

The parents should speak Polish to the kid. Exclusively Polish and not a word of English. If they try to speak English, and if their English is so and so that's where the problems my be. The child is likely to mimic the parents' errors. That won't happen with Polish because there is nothing to mimic since the two languages are vastly different.

My 20 year old daughter is perfectly bilingual. After her second year in a Canadian University she went to Poland for a year to study there. In Polish. To Canadians she sounds Canadian. To Poles she sounds Polish. There has never been any drawbacks caused by her bilingual upbringing and education. It actually helped her with her English.

See, a language is not just a bunch of words and grammatical rules but a whole system of thinking that may vary from one language to another. Those variations often allow speakers to attain the level of expression that is out of reach to people speaking only one language.

One difference between UK and Canada is that here in Canada a teacher would not even dare to suggest a child should forget his/her parent's native language.
z_darius   
2 Jul 2009
Life / What really represents Polish people? What would be the symbol of Poland... [51]

I don't think that religious symbols are a good representation of Poland. Poland has been a "Catholic country" since WWII - before the war it was quite a multicultural state.

And the eagle - well, that's connected with the legend about founding Poland - so it can be viewed as something common.

Are you talking about the same multicultural Poland in both sentences?
How is the Polish eagle representative of Ukrainians, Latvians or Germans?

I'm not much of a religious type but I'd still think that religious symbols. Black Madonna comes to mind and it does have serious Eastern Orthodox ties and it could be easily used to represent Poland throughout history.

Also, RC religion marks the beginning of Poland, offers moral support for Poland's many struggles throughout its history (Defense of Czestochowa, Solidarity movement to name the most striking examples). You would have found religious symbols pretty much anywhere in Poland for the last 1000 or so years, while the eagle was a symbol used mainly by the nobles, and then only by some. For most of Poland's history Poles gathered around religious symbols, not around coats of arms. That came later, probably around the end of the 17th century but before that, and on that level, loyalty to non-religious symbols was very local.
z_darius   
28 Jun 2009
Language / When does polish "ch" sound like eng "ch" and when is it "h"? [59]

I wonder why chowa was pronounced chowa and not howa

I think you need to write it down in one of the phonetic scripts. Otherwise things look weird. IMO for course chowa will be pronounced as chowa. How else?
z_darius   
28 Jun 2009
Language / When does polish "ch" sound like eng "ch" and when is it "h"? [59]

Polish "ch" is always pronounced similar to English "h" as in "home". Where the pronuciation of the sound may vary are words of foreign origin, foreign names etc.

There used to be an audible difference between the pronunciation of "ch" and "h" in Polish, with "h" being a voiced sound. Some older people will still pronounce "h" in ways clearly identifying the sound.
z_darius   
28 Jun 2009
Food / Does Polish pierogi also have its story of origin? [43]

A lot of recipes are akin to other recipes.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierogi#Origin_and_name_variants

In case your government in China is blocking access to the website above, here is a quote for you:
The origins of pierogi are difficult to trace. While dumplings as such are found throughout Eurasia, the specific name pierogi, with its various cognates in the West and East Slavic languages, shows the dish's common Slavic origins, predating the modern nation states and their standardized languages. The East Slavic Belarusians, Russians and Ukranians, the West Slavic Poles and Slovaks, and the Baltic Latvians and Lithuanians all consume this dish, although sometimes under a different name (e.g., kalduny in Belarus and Lithuania). In some East European languages, variants of this dish are known by names derived from the root of the word "to boil" (Russian: варить, varit', Ukrainian: варити, varyty). These include the Belarusian vareniki (варэнiкi), Latvian vareņiki, Russian vareniki (варе́ники), Ukrainian varenyky (варе́ники) (literally "boiled things", from the adjective form varenyy).

There is a definite similarity to Italian ravioli and tortellini or Jewish kreplach. In Turkey, Transcaucasus, and Central Asia round pockets of dough with a meat filling are called manti, khinkali, or chuchvara. In East Asia, similar foods are served, such as Chinese wonton and jiaozi, Japanese gyoza, Mongolian buuz, Nepalese/Tibetan momo, Afghani mantu, and Korean mandu.


Maybe you are right,the word pierogi has 3000~5000 years history,but i don't think you are right to compare one word with one food!

Why not?

About the culture,i always think so: nationality's culture also belongs to the world's! when one nationality creates a new civilization,it must influence the whole world.then the whole humen race get development.no matter China,Poland,American,UK,Germany,Austrilia......or African countries.no matter developed,developing or poor countries at present,each one has its own important role in historical development of human being.

What's that all about?
When they first ate pierogi there was no Polish nationality.

You asked a question and you received an answer. So what is the problem?

Every country has its sense of pride about its own culture,we respect other countries' cultures,so we are here and discuss everything objectively.i welcome all the friends to show their opinions in my threads,but please pay attention phraseology and not to hurt other people's culture pride!!!

First, Chinese respect for other cultures is not such a simple thing. And that's just one example. So let's better stick to pierogi, okay?

Second, opinions are OK where opinions suffice. Facts are not a matter of opinion. 2+2=4, no matter what your opinion on the subject is. Poland, and the rest of the world owe a lot to Chinese inventors (paper, explosives, silk - of just a few that come to mind. But pierogi, ravioli and such are not among the things the world owes to the Chinese.
z_darius   
28 Jun 2009
Food / Does Polish pierogi also have its story of origin? [43]

Based on linguistic evidence the word pierogi is some 3,000 to 5,000 years old, which would predate Chines stuffed dumplings by at least 15 centuries. The idea is not unique in Eurasia and it is unlikely that the dish came into Slavic cuisine from China. Now the question is: what culture did the Chinese borrow stuffed dumplings from?
z_darius   
28 Jun 2009
Life / What is the best Polish book ever written. [23]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country#Poland

"Pan Tadeusz" by Adam Mickiewicz is a masterpiece and probably
the best book ever written in Polish language.

It's a wonderful satire on Poles. I found no other book, or author who drerides Poles and Polish vices so skillfully. What's even funnier is that in Poland the books is taught as the greatest Polish patriotic epic. Not that Mickiewicz was not a patriot, but the book was just one huge joke.
z_darius   
24 Jun 2009
Language / Formal "you" and Informal "you" : which is which? [46]

pluralis maiestatis was only used to address very high figures as far as I can tell - i.e. kings/queens, high church figures, top government figures - however it is all gone

The kings are gone, but not mothers in law, older aunts and what have you. In some areas of Poland it would be common to address an older family member in plural, or pretty much anybody who could no longer be called young. The form smacks of a jargon and archaism and its use seems to be diminishing but it is still not uncommon, mostly in rural/smaller localities.
z_darius   
24 Jun 2009
Food / POLISH VEGETABLE SALAD RECIPE [10]

it's pretty much close to staple food for Poles during holidays, for parties etc and it's called "vegetable salad" - "salatka warzywna".

One of the recipe versions is here.
z_darius   
19 Jun 2009
News / Poland and Germany - Germany unhappy with the present border with Poland? [88]

you have been watching 300 espartan to much .......the shortest book ever written is "Polish war heros"

Was it written by Spaniards while their azzes were being beaten in Guernica? Or during the decades of the fascists government in Spain?

That in 1951 Poland claimed territory which had been Polish before WWII.

Yeah, Poland threw it overwhelming might against the meager remnants of the Soviet Army and the Soviets blinked at the horrifying prospect of Poland's aggressive demands. Thus Poland became an empire that could now easily afford to wipe the Soviet tears with other lands that the Soviets received.

Heck, prior to that Poles forced the Soviets to administer Western Ukraine, chunks of Byeloruss and adjacent areas so that themselves they could force Germans out of Western Poland. A very fearsome nation those Poles. About this time next year Poland is likely to span 25 continents.

Harry, you are in a class by yourself. I have never met, online or offline, anybody with so blatantly twisted approach and so blinded by hatred to a country.
z_darius   
9 Jun 2009
Language / Jest/To jest - to jest is often abbreviated to just to [24]

"Kolokwium to dużo pracy" is not proper according to general rules of Polish language

It is proper. The construct is called Równoważnik zdania.

Formally, proper sentence should be expressed in Polish in following way:

"Przygotowanie się do kolokwium wymaga dużo pracy"

The meaning of this sentence is not the same as "Kolokwium to dużo pracy". Your sentence refers to the preparation for an action, the latter to the actual action.
z_darius   
8 Jun 2009
Love / I believe my girlfriend born in Poland dumped me because I dated a black women once. [7]

She is 37 years old and communism ended in 1989 in Poland. I can't help but to believe that racism was either directly taught to students when she was a child

What an idiotic conclusion.
There was never communism in the American South. Would you say that the area was traditionally a paradise for racial cooperation?
z_darius   
5 Jun 2009
Life / JOKES ABOUT POLISH. Have we deserve it? [68]

c'mon guys, why the hell you take it that serious?

Tell a joke about gays.
Tell a joke about lesbians.
Tell a joke about single moms, preferably with a few kids, each of different race.
Tell a joke about a woman's body in the office.
Tell a joke about blacks in public.
Tell a joke about handicapped persons.
Tell a joke about a Jew i Auschwitz.

In the US any of those would be treated very seriously, they could easily lead to lawsuits, and if you're in any position of substance your career would be pretty much over. They'd rip you apart.

Jokes often have a purpose other than just humor. They can be, and have been a powerful political tool to shape public opinion in support of wretched policies.

When you consider that someone suffered unfairly you'll be likely to feel sympathy to them. But if they are stupid then their suffering acquires a comical tone, and therefore is perceived as irrelevant. What comes to the fore that they are stupid and funny, not that they suffer.

That's how the English got away with abusing generations of the Irish "drunks".
z_darius   
31 May 2009
News / The Emperor is naked. Lech Walesa, fool or hero ? [34]

No, but some say it was the collapsing communist regime in Poland that did.

So "the collapsing communist regime in Poland" started the collapse of communism in Poland? Interesting and original :)

In these times people question their heroes, in the past they were accepted without question.

Exactly my point.
z_darius   
31 May 2009
News / The Emperor is naked. Lech Walesa, fool or hero ? [34]

I explained (as have countless of others whose theory I'm using) the reasons behind why those in power might have propelled such a seemingly dumb guy into the spotlight. Moscow at the time (Gorbachov) was against the old ways of using force to retain power, and instead instructed the regime in Poland to enter into dialogue with the unions.

Except that Walesa was already known around the world 4 years before most even heard about Gorbachev. Gorbachev saw Walesa in the spotlight and Gorbachev wasn't the one who put Walesa there.

Of course it was caused by a lot of factors, and of course Walesa alone is not responsible for the collapse, no one person is. But Walesa was the first one in the spotlight.

As for the famous climbing of the fence, I've seen a stupid man jump onto a the roof of a moving train in Dublin . . . the clever people watched :)

If you attempted something clever here you failed. I see no connection between a dumb Irish and Walesa's.

Walesa will be remembered in history, but if it will be kind to him is a different story. . and history eventually finds the truth :)

Unfortunately, that "truth" is often custom made to fit the times.
z_darius   
31 May 2009
Food / Murzynek - Traditional Polish Cake with Chocolate Glaze [12]

Things are getting ridiculous. We can't even use words anymore.
Negro is bad, Black is bad, African American is no longer recommended. Now, as I hear from some sociology students, the correct terms they try to introduce is "socially marginalized".

So there, you had a bite of a very yummy, socially marginalized cake.

"murzynek" in Polish is not racist
"czarnuch" is.
z_darius   
31 May 2009
News / The Emperor is naked. Lech Walesa, fool or hero ? [34]

The way I see it that Solidarnosc was restored in later 80s under Mr Walesas leadership. However a closer inspection deems that to be false. It was just technically a different organisation with the same name. Some might say nothing more than a typical communist trick

Yeah, a trick for sure. The tricksters tricked themselves out of power, didn't they?
And of course Moscow was a part of the trick and they too tricked themselves out of Poland. Quite an elaborate scheme :)

Walesa didn't get the nation's support for his IQ, education or erudition. However stupid and uneducated he was, it was him who started the collapse of communism in Europe. Whether that collapse was unavoidable or not, none of the PhDs or other MENSA members who now criticize him had the balls to climb that fence on the Gdansk Shipyard. Walesa did it and he will be remembered in history, while it will take about a generation or two and most of his critics won't be remembered even by their own descendants.
z_darius   
27 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

Sokrates was overdoing it again, calling all Germans "descendants of murderers"...no need to compare wiki numbers! :)

That I agree with, but Shopski did not do a good job with numbers as you did. The 200K makes sense and it does defeat the argument about the alleged "descendants of murderers".
z_darius   
27 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

I don't buy it. Your figures do not break down by gender or age. I have read repeatedly that the population left over in Germany after the war was disportionate in women, children and old men in relation to men.

I am not selling anything. I am quoting numbers from wikipedia.
But OK, lets say ALL Germans who died during WW2 were males. That still leaves us with about 26 million male Germans. Still more than entire populations of many countries.

What was in short supply in Germany were males in production and reproductive age. But guess what, boys eventually grow up - even if some here do not exactly prove that.

As many as 16.5 million were about to be driven from their homes. Of these 2.25 million would die during the expulsions from the south and east. -Giles Macdonough

Most of those driven from their home were driven from their home after WW2 as per the agreements of the Allies.

So when you say there were hardly any men left in Germany after WW2 is far from precise. Otherwise... hey BBoy do you still speak Turkish at home or have you picked up some German?
z_darius   
26 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

There can't be that many "descendants of murderers" because there wasn't hardly any men left in Germany after WWII!

"Hardly" isn't the most fortunate word here.

German population before WW2 - 69,623,000
German population after WW2 - 62,390,000

The ratio of males to females in Germany is roughly 50/50 so there were about 31 million male Germans left after WW2 - more than all of Poland, including women, in 1945
z_darius   
26 May 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

History suggests that they would.

Depends which bits of history you pick:

According to reports sent to Government In Exile in London, Gestapo officials in several Polish cities were trying to talk about creating a common, anti-Communist front with the Poles, a thing that had been unheard of before. Also, the Nazis tried again to talk Wincenty Witos into issuing an appeal, but he refused.

On November 4, 1944 Headquarters of the Central Group of German Army (Heeresgruppe Mitte) announced basic principles. Germans were hoping that some 12,000 Poles would volunteer. They were promised same treatment as German soldiers, including salaries, death insurance and health service.

In late fall of 1944, in several Polish towns offices for volunteers were created, some of them decorated with Polish flags. However, only 471 people signed up, in spite of German fabrications, stating that the Home Army announced its alliance with the Nazis.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_the_Wehrmacht#Creation_of_Polish_Unit

On the other hand, Soviet creations such as Armia Ludowa (up to 30,000 members) or Ludowe Wojsko Polskie (up to 200,000) were certainly not fighting against the Soviets.

Now, in 1945, how would that co-operation with Germans look?
What about the Eastern borders? Would Western Ukraine be Polish or not? Would Germans in what is now Western Poland be ordered to move West?

Poles had already been betrayed by the US and UK by then. What kind of assurances would Poles have that co-operation with Germans would give them the outcome they hoped for?