plk123
10 Dec 2007
Language / Polish Language Pronunciation - Example Words and Phrases [220]
roh-ginah. (h's are silent here)
roh-ginah. (h's are silent here)
plk123
10 Dec 2007
Food / Polish food's impact on health and longevity [16]
71 has everything to do with the oppression people have had to deal with over the centuries. however, vodka helps too. ;) :D
the medical standards do too and so on.. there are many variables.. if food was the only factor then americans would never see 75 as the food here is crap. :)
71 has everything to do with the oppression people have had to deal with over the centuries. however, vodka helps too. ;) :D
the medical standards do too and so on.. there are many variables.. if food was the only factor then americans would never see 75 as the food here is crap. :)
plk123
10 Dec 2007
Genealogy / strange Polish mixes [116]
yeah.. there is a polish girl in my town who is married to a mexicano and they have a brood so unusual? sure.. but it happens. :)
yeah.. there is a polish girl in my town who is married to a mexicano and they have a brood so unusual? sure.. but it happens. :)
plk123
10 Dec 2007
Love / why wont he communicate? going crazy [90]
if you haven't heard from him.. it could be several reasons.. i don't know if i'd assume the worst but you definitely ought to move on..
if you haven't heard from him.. it could be several reasons.. i don't know if i'd assume the worst but you definitely ought to move on..
plk123
10 Dec 2007
Language / How long to get fluent in Polish? [41]
total immersion is definitely the best.. polish is pretty hard overall and i think it depends on your skills.. it may take for ever.. it may take a year or two.. it all depends.. i am not sure if there is even an average or a mean.. good luck though. listen hard and work on your tongue twisting techniques. :D
i am pretty sure it took me at most 4 or 5 years to understand everything and start thinking in english. but i looked up every single word i didn't know.. sometimes multiple times. then i always tried to use that word as many times as possible.. english is very easy though.
total immersion is definitely the best.. polish is pretty hard overall and i think it depends on your skills.. it may take for ever.. it may take a year or two.. it all depends.. i am not sure if there is even an average or a mean.. good luck though. listen hard and work on your tongue twisting techniques. :D
It takes 5 years for a polish child to get fluent in english from not knowing any english when they get to england.
It takes them 10 years to fluently understand what text means when they read it, Even though they can read english fine before that, they may not fully understand what the text is saying.
Just take that into consideration, I don't know any statistics about the other way around.
It takes them 10 years to fluently understand what text means when they read it, Even though they can read english fine before that, they may not fully understand what the text is saying.
Just take that into consideration, I don't know any statistics about the other way around.
i am pretty sure it took me at most 4 or 5 years to understand everything and start thinking in english. but i looked up every single word i didn't know.. sometimes multiple times. then i always tried to use that word as many times as possible.. english is very easy though.
plk123
10 Dec 2007
Language / 'w' - difference between accusative+locative [18]
hmmm. wroclaw starts with W not f/v... ??
we before f/v+ consonant (we Francji, we Wroclawiu)
hmmm. wroclaw starts with W not f/v... ??
plk123
10 Dec 2007
News / Polish people (and language) spreading all over the world? [25]
doubt it.. poles are pretty much in every country in the world and have been that way for decades/centuries.
doubt it.. poles are pretty much in every country in the world and have been that way for decades/centuries.
plk123
10 Dec 2007
plk123
10 Dec 2007
Real Estate / What kind of property would you buy in Poland? [19]
a brothel
??
you may want to qualify your Q a little better.
a brothel
??
you may want to qualify your Q a little better.
plk123
10 Dec 2007
Travel / Would i be able to part with lose Euros in Poland? [7]
to part? i am sure if no one else, a bum will take your "change." lol
to part? i am sure if no one else, a bum will take your "change." lol
plk123
10 Dec 2007
Language / 'w' - difference between accusative+locative [18]
yeah, w ~ v but there sure are instances where the 'w' may kind of sound like an 'f' however the correct pronounciation is the hard 'v' at all times.
yeah, w ~ v but there sure are instances where the 'w' may kind of sound like an 'f' however the correct pronounciation is the hard 'v' at all times.
plk123
7 Dec 2007
Language / ż ź dź dż sz cz ś ć - which give most problems to foreigners? [65]
yeah, i am tone deaf and i can't read.
yeah, i am tone deaf and i can't read.
plk123
7 Dec 2007
Language / ż ź dź dż sz cz ś ć - which give most problems to foreigners? [65]
sure those may sound similar to the correct words but they don't sound exactly the same at all.. i think it is you that is hearing things and yes, people misspronounce words all the time.. and of course there are also different dialects etc.. but an ę is an ę no matter what you surround it with. i think this difference you speak of is a figment of some great imagination. :)
zemby, tendy, £óć
sure those may sound similar to the correct words but they don't sound exactly the same at all.. i think it is you that is hearing things and yes, people misspronounce words all the time.. and of course there are also different dialects etc.. but an ę is an ę no matter what you surround it with. i think this difference you speak of is a figment of some great imagination. :)
plk123
7 Dec 2007
USA, Canada / 2008 U.S. Presidential Election according to Polish and foreign people [90]
the sanes choice out of the elephant corner is Romney although i don't really care for him that much... the only donk that's worth anything is Kucinich. Hallary will probably win the whole thing.
the sanes choice out of the elephant corner is Romney although i don't really care for him that much... the only donk that's worth anything is Kucinich. Hallary will probably win the whole thing.
plk123
7 Dec 2007
Language / ż ź dź dż sz cz ś ć - which give most problems to foreigners? [65]
that's not an offical term, it is mine but what i was saying is that the other letters effect the way one hears the vowels (in this case) but that doesn't necessarily mean that these vowels are actually pronounced differently. which i haven't been able to think of one solid example whrere they actually are. hmmm
that's not an offical term, it is mine but what i was saying is that the other letters effect the way one hears the vowels (in this case) but that doesn't necessarily mean that these vowels are actually pronounced differently. which i haven't been able to think of one solid example whrere they actually are. hmmm
plk123
7 Dec 2007
Language / ż ź dź dż sz cz ś ć - which give most problems to foreigners? [65]
dariusz.. i think the sounds come accross differently to you and maybe others is because of the adjacent letters.. but the ą or ę or any of the others are constant. it's a clouding effect but in reality it is not. that's my opinion anyway. phonetics are there for those who do not know how to pronounce these things.. and yeah, it seems that they may sound different but once again, they are not. my 2.5c. :D
and that's impossible? to my sis both are native. :)
in my case i am native to one.. guess which one. :)
dariusz.. i think the sounds come accross differently to you and maybe others is because of the adjacent letters.. but the ą or ę or any of the others are constant. it's a clouding effect but in reality it is not. that's my opinion anyway. phonetics are there for those who do not know how to pronounce these things.. and yeah, it seems that they may sound different but once again, they are not. my 2.5c. :D
of both?
and that's impossible? to my sis both are native. :)
in my case i am native to one.. guess which one. :)
plk123
7 Dec 2007
News / Poland adopting the Euro, but when? [65]
polish airline is called LOT also. it is a play on words but polish ones. lol
polish airline is called LOT also. it is a play on words but polish ones. lol
plk123
7 Dec 2007
Language / Does anyone know of real Polish translation tool on web [6]
yeah, they all miss things.
all I have used miss out quite a lot of words
yeah, they all miss things.
plk123
7 Dec 2007
Language / ż ź dź dż sz cz ś ć - which give most problems to foreigners? [65]
right.. there is a difference between all those as each one has a different letter there at the beginning.
btw. i am a native speaker. :)
right.. there is a difference between all those as each one has a different letter there at the beginning.
btw. i am a native speaker. :)
plk123
7 Dec 2007
Language / ż ź dź dż sz cz ś ć - which give most problems to foreigners? [65]
i really wonder what the hell some of you are smoking. hehe same freaking sound dudes and dudettes.
£ similar to the enlgish W but not exactly the same.. you are right there.. for sure.
They are not the same sound
i really wonder what the hell some of you are smoking. hehe same freaking sound dudes and dudettes.
£ similar to the enlgish W but not exactly the same.. you are right there.. for sure.
plk123
7 Dec 2007
plk123
7 Dec 2007
Language / ż ź dź dż sz cz ś ć - which give most problems to foreigners? [65]
i pronounce sh and sz exactly the same because they are. :)
as to the other part osiol, i think you're just hearing the other letters and maybe they are masking the vowel but that vowel should be pronounced the same in all words.
i pronounce sh and sz exactly the same because they are. :)
as to the other part osiol, i think you're just hearing the other letters and maybe they are masking the vowel but that vowel should be pronounced the same in all words.
plk123
7 Dec 2007
Language / ż ź dź dż sz cz ś ć - which give most problems to foreigners? [65]
nope... it's the same sound
yeah.. same sounds here too. maybe you pronounce those differently but you shouldn't.. i can also see the adjacent letter sounds may be confusing you but in the end those are exactly the same sounds.
very close, but not identical. English "sh" is somewhere between Polish "sz" and "ś".
nope... it's the same sound
really?
try: gęba and tędy
or: dźwięk and w gołoledź
try: gęba and tędy
or: dźwięk and w gołoledź
yeah.. same sounds here too. maybe you pronounce those differently but you shouldn't.. i can also see the adjacent letter sounds may be confusing you but in the end those are exactly the same sounds.
plk123
7 Dec 2007
News / Poland adopting the Euro, but when? [65]
nope, get flight for your Zł.
loty = flights
"get a lot(y) for your money"...
nope, get flight for your Zł.
loty = flights
plk123
7 Dec 2007
plk123
7 Dec 2007
Language / ż ź dź dż sz cz ś ć - which give most problems to foreigners? [65]
knowledge of russian surely helps in most instances
sz is exactly like sh.. to pronounce ś.. start with the sh sound and then flatten your tongue and move the lower jaw slightly forward.. kind of like underbite a little.. teeth almost together and vertically lined up.
nope.. always the same
definitely.. ś and sz are not even close, really.
Study in historical Slavonic grammar can help a lot. During university studies in Poland it is one year course. I don't know if there is or not such a handbook in English. But knowledge of historical development of language tells often whether it shall be ż or rz in some cases.
knowledge of russian surely helps in most instances
It would have to be all of the above, but let's pick on ś and sz.
sz is exactly like sh.. to pronounce ś.. start with the sh sound and then flatten your tongue and move the lower jaw slightly forward.. kind of like underbite a little.. teeth almost together and vertically lined up.
ę, ą, ź, ż, ć, dź etc are pronounced in a few various forms depending on their proximity to other sounds.
nope.. always the same
A native Polish speaker would easilly notice the error.
definitely.. ś and sz are not even close, really.
plk123
6 Dec 2007
Life / Polish Christmas Traditions [19]
there is a whole big thread about chrismas tradition and the table somewhere around here.. find it and you'll know everything.
there is a whole big thread about chrismas tradition and the table somewhere around here.. find it and you'll know everything.
plk123
6 Dec 2007
Language / ż ź dź dż sz cz ś ć - which give most problems to foreigners? [65]
you tell us.. all of those seem to be issues.. as well as ch-h; sz-rz-ż;
you tell us.. all of those seem to be issues.. as well as ch-h; sz-rz-ż;
plk123
6 Dec 2007
News / Important Dates in the Polish Calendar [25]
eve of december 24,
easter, dingus
december 4 - barborka
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eve of december 24,
easter, dingus
december 4 - barborka
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plk123
6 Dec 2007
News / Illegal immigrant tries to get into Poland in a luggage [19]
there is a whole thread for them.. "funny pictures" or something like that.
I missed all those little drawings...
there is a whole thread for them.. "funny pictures" or something like that.