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2008 U.S. Presidential Election according to Polish and foreign people

5 Dec 2007 /  #1
I thought it would be interesting to start a new thread about the elections on PF.

Let's start with this one:
Mike Huckabee's response to a creation question on CNN.

First of all this was a loaded question, but Huckabee handled it pretty well here.
5 Dec 2007 /  #2
I don't like the guy. He's made some bad judgement calls in the past. Not a trustable man IMO ie. assisting in the parole of Wayne Dumond who thenafter raped and killed another person.

....just another Rep. phony who lugs around a bible and smiles alot :)
5 Dec 2007 /  #3
Anybody but Hillary:)
5 Dec 2007 /  #4
Yet a few months ago I thought Hillary would be the best choice. But now I realize she is being manipulated by pharmacy/oil/other industry lobbyists and in fact she would be their puppet if she was chosen a president. Plus her irrational view on immigration issues (that "illegal" immigrants should not be allowed to drive a car in the US, because American drivers license is a "privilege", not a tool that should determine if the person is capable of driving or not). So no, sorry Hillary, better luck in 5 years.

As the result I think Obama, after all, will be the best choice. Hopefully he would not give in to $$$ as easily as the other candidates.


Of course, most likely the other Democratic or Republicans would overall be better, but since they don't have enough funds to be chosen by their party, the decison is between Clinton and Obama. So chosing between two not the best choices.
5 Dec 2007 /  #5
As the result I think Obama, after all, will be the best choice

I don't like his name. Reminds me of Bin Laden for some reason....
5 Dec 2007 /  #6
Reminds me of Bin Laden for some reason....

Or Saddam :) It's stange, but this name will effect hie candidacy

Barack Hussein Obama
5 Dec 2007 /  #7
So chosing between two not the best choices

Theres not really anybody good to choose from as usuall.

But one thing for sure is over the last 25 years there has been a Bush or a Clinton
in the white house since George #1 was Regans V.P.
Its time for a fresh face with new ideas instead of the same old arguing.
5 Dec 2007 /  #8
Theres not really anybody good to choose from as usuall.

Maybe Bill Richardson. He has some good strength in in Foreign relations
5 Dec 2007 /  #10
Maybe Bill Richardson. He has some good strength in in Foreign relations

I havent heard much about him?
Its worth a looking into though.... still theres alot of time till next Nov.

What about Ron Paul ?

I dont think America wants another Republican President from Texas
5 Dec 2007 /  #11
What about Ron Paul ?

Not another Rep. Texan please. One has been enough.

hahaha Good call Sledz
5 Dec 2007 /  #12
Does anyone know who EXACTLY determines which candidate of the particular party is to be the chosen one to run for presidential elections? I mean - currently there are a few Democratic and Republican candidates. But in the end only one will be chosen in "pre-elections."

To me they first look at their budget and then what the person represents; that's why it doesn't usually work for the good of the society.

Ok, I found the answer to the above question here:
OP Dice  
6 Dec 2007 /  #13
What is quite interesting is that the strongest and the most solid voting block in the U.S. - the Evangelists - do not have a serious candidate in the Republican Party this time around. Giuliani is a Catholic, Mitt Romney is a Mormon and Hackabee is a Southern Baptist. This may weaken the Republican Party significantly.

Mitt Romney has the biggest problem of the bunch - many Evangelists do not consider Mormon Church to be a Christian religion. That's why his plan is to give a speech on religion in America tomorrow.

Romney To Give Speech About Mormon Religion
6 Dec 2007 /  #14
Honestly, I wait to see who is chosen for each party as well as any independents that might run (where's Mr Big Ears, Ross Perot....I actually liked the guy, but not as my

As for the democratic candidate, I believe Hillary will get for republicans, I truly don't know (Although I would like to see John McCain.....he's middle of the road republican and darn it, I just like him).....there has been more emphasis on the democrats because of H and O. All I know is I hate politics now.....I remember when I use to see what a candidate stood for (before I could actually vote, but for some reason, I paid attention) it's trash politics.....see what controversial thing the opposition stands for and point it out.

Oh well.....guess I will have to wait a year to find out who becomes President.
6 Dec 2007 /  #15
I dont think America wants another Republican President from Texas

he is quite different from the others..Ron Paul says he would like to get rid of the IRS, THE dept of Education, and get out of Iraq immediately. He is one of the few who are running that opposed the war from the beginning. Not your satndard republican candidate from TX maybe..
6 Dec 2007 /  #16
Ron Paul

LOL, to show my ignorance.....I thought Ron Pual was a local guy, until I saw a guy standing on Fall Creek Blvd holding a sign that said his name, a few days ago (well after local votes) I have to investigate;)
6 Dec 2007 /  #17
what's most interesting about him may be his professional background - when was the last time a gynecologist ran for president?
7 Dec 2007 /  #18
I think Ron Paul (Rep) is the most reasonable Republican candiate out there. I wish he was chosen by the Republicans as a presidential candidate.
7 Dec 2007 /  #19
John McCain

Oor lad in the hoose ?
7 Dec 2007 /  #20
What about Ron Paul ?

I really like Ron Paul's stance on many issues. He is one of the only candidates who oppose the war in Iraq, and he is really getting a lot of people interested in his cause. The question is: well he win in the Republican primary?
7 Dec 2007 /  #21
the sanes choice out of the elephant corner is Romney although i don't really care for him that much... the only donk that's worth anything is Kucinich. Hallary will probably win the whole thing.
OP Dice  
9 Dec 2007 /  #22
I really like Ron Paul's stance on many issues.

Did you know that there are two candidates who promised to abolish IRS? They are Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee. Huckabee would replace the federal tax with a 30% sales tax, and I'm not sure what Ron Paul's plan for that is.

Anyways, here is a funny and witty video about a quarrel between the two democratic candidates - Obama vs. Clinton.

Hillary vs Obama

Krazy Kaju  
27 Dec 2007 /  #23
Yeah, Ron Paul's the man.

The truth is that we don't need to replace the IRS.

If we stop being a global bully (with soldiers stationed and in some cases fighting in Japan, the Philippines, Korea, Germany, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and parts of South America and Africa), we would literally cut the amount of money our government spends by trillions of dollars. Also, if we'd cut all the money going to "top secret" military programs, we'd save a couple billion dollars.

Right there is enough to not only make up the void left if we cut the IRS, but to even leave us with a couple trillion dollar profit.

Of course, Ron Paul also wants to radically cut the bureaucracies in Washington and give powers to the states regarding education, taxes, etc. This would also save billions if not trillions of dollars.

Really, Ron Paul's advocating what our Founding Fathers advocated: a strong but largely decentralized government giving large powers to the states.

In addition, Ron Paul should be running through the streets of America yelling "I TOLD YOU SO!" He is, after all, one of the few Congressmen to vote against the War in Iraq...

If you have the time to spend watching this, I'd highly recommend it:

28 Dec 2007 /  #24
I also think that Ron Paul is the only candidate worth a vote. His voting record in Congress is outstanding, suggest that he is independent rather than marionette like Bush.

- His foreign policy would put off the US from the target of Islamic radicals and save a lot of cash in budget. (bring troops to home and stop subsidy foreign states)

- Abolition of income tax would improve financial situation of American taxpayers.
- Ron Paul support free speech and is the best guarantee that remain if he would be elected.
- Being Polish, I hope that he would show an alternative to awful socialist bureaucracy practiced by the EU. Decentralization and deregulation would improve American economy and hopefully force European countries to stop this insane bureaucratic machine if they would want remain competitive.
Krazy Kaju  
28 Dec 2007 /  #25
But honestly, he's the "I told you so" candidate.

Voted against going into Iraq, voted against No Child Left Behind, voted against the PATRIOT Act... There's a reason they call him "Dr. No" after all. ;-p
28 Dec 2007 /  #26
Giuliani is a Catholic

Giuliani is a catholic by the name only. I think that vast majority of politicians just pretend to be religious. However in this case, this is obvious that he is not even if claims otherwise. Guliani not only support homosexual agenda but also backs abortion business what completely disqualify him as a Catholic.
30 Dec 2007 /  #27
So when are they going to decide who runs for the Democrats and the Republicans? I hope for Obama after all (Ron Paul would be best but has too little financial and lobbyst support).
6 Jan 2008 /  #28
primaries are Nov.
I hope someone like Romney gets the ticket. he seems to be the most sincere
Obama does not even hold his hand on his heart for our national anthem. Not by any means patriotic
7 Jan 2008 /  #29
I have watched recent Republican debate in NH. TV channel that organized this debate gave the most time to Romney, McCain and Guliani, so they have the greatest chance to win the nomination. This is quite sad because neither deserve.

My impression about Romney is that he talked a lot of banal slogans, avoid to provide viewers more detailed answers. Typical election sausage from professional politician. He has very good presence but this is not the most important thing that we need to expect from politicians. Beside of that he is a neocon who wants like Guliani to send more troops to Iraq...

By the way, neocon propaganda channel Fox News excluded Ron Paul from their own Republican debate in NH.
more here

So when are they going to decide who runs for the Democrats and the Republicans? I hope for Obama after all (Ron Paul would be best but has too little financial and lobbyst support).


Actually only Obama and Clinton raised a bit more cash than Paul. He has enough cash to run as a third party candidate if he wants. While people should finally understand that if no lobby support him, this means that there is a chance that he is a really good, independent candidate.
9 Jan 2008 /  #30
Obama Obama Obama for 08
The fix is in

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