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Sokrates   
18 Mar 2009
Love / Whose Life is it? Polish girlfriend under family "house arrest" [224]

Dude you're an idiot, an anti-polish idiot but here you do much more harm by giving a guy concerned wrong advice.

Girls from little towns will run the fuck away from them unless they have some huge attachment, parents are NOT such attachment, if she's staying there that means there's a man with money or some attractive prospects, or a toxic relationship.

As for "Polish girls" you would not know how they are even if i wrote you a bloody map :)
Sokrates   
18 Mar 2009
History / Roman Dmowski- Polish Adolf Hitler? [219]

So where is all this free oil we took? Lol...

Into your industry or more specifically private ventures that pressed USA into this war.

This is about as childish a view of the Iraq situation as I’ve seen.

Not at all, ever heard of "food for oil" programme where U.S gives some miserable scraps for gigantic amounts of raw oil?
Sokrates   
18 Mar 2009
History / Roman Dmowski- Polish Adolf Hitler? [219]

Yeah, but at what price? It was too high.

There was no other way, this in no way lessens Hitlers responsibility, i'm just pointing out that world war was the only possible solution to tensions and the only way to transform Europe.

They could have found better ways to achieve all that.

Nope, there was no other way to stabilise Europe.

Yes, Obama shares Hitler-esque qualities.

Like what? He's nowhere near as charismatic as Hitler, he's educated and outspoken which earns him respect since Bush was just a little hillbilly redneck and he contrasts with Obama but he's (just like Bush) another figurehead.

Yes, eventually the debacle in Iraq will turn out to be a good thing if they can hold it together, just as you recognize WWII did.

No it will not, U.S will strip the region of oil and leave it destabilized, in time Arabs will pull their shit together and form a rabidly anti-US block and God forbid if they ever develop nuclear weapons, U.S will get nuked.

Also WW2 was never a good thing, it was neccesary to achieve status quo and stability in Europe but it was far from good, also Hitler gets no praise for that since all positive effects for unintentional (though foreseeable).

Short term goals creating historical enemies is not a smart thing to do.

See, Sokrates, you are stuck in this mode where you are determined to oppose everything I say only because your feelings are still hurt for my exposing your Jew-baby murdering ways. To the point of making yourself look like a bitter fool.

You're still embarassing yourself to the point of repetition.

I just don't see how Hitler helped the situation by invading and thus, destabilizing Poland.

He either murdered or was an indirect reason of later soviet displacements, all hostile minorities were either dead or displaced and Poland became a solid and stable society.

Hitler and Stalin were destabilizers,

Yes and no, they were destroyers of old order but ultimately incapable of creating new one, the new one came as synthesis of East/West interaction.

it was the US and Britain who kept communism out of western Europe.

Correct but communism was an artificial construct that could not last, it did help shape the Europe of today though.

All Hitler wanted was for everyone to be German.

I am not giving him any credit whatsoever, the guy was a murdering nutcase but he did trigger change and stability even if unintentionally.
Sokrates   
18 Mar 2009
History / Roman Dmowski- Polish Adolf Hitler? [219]

Yeah. Just like Obama.

You need to stop writing now, you're embarassing yourself.

raq.

Iraq was invaded strictly to seize its oil, there is nothing positive in this war for anyone, not even US in the long term.
Sokrates   
18 Mar 2009
History / Roman Dmowski- Polish Adolf Hitler? [219]

Really? Because of Hitler Jews were given Israel, because of Hitler Russia never conquered whole of Europe, because of Hitler Poland regained some of its more prosperous provinces, because of Hitler Germans finally vented their destructive ambition in a way that permanently transformed them into a more peacefull country, because of Hitler Ukraine finally consolidated.

As horrible as WW2 was, as bloody fucking inhumanly terrrible it had so many positive aftereffects, guess everything happens for a reason eh?:)
Sokrates   
18 Mar 2009
History / Roman Dmowski- Polish Adolf Hitler? [219]

No it was not, the camera obviously does not convey the hipnotic influence that man could conjure up.

I want to make my position here clear, there is no redeeming Hitler and no justification but personally i stand in awe by the sheer magnitude of his achievement, he managed to conquer most of Europe, he managed in broad daylight to murder milions and almost built the kid of Empire the world has never seen.

It was not the Germans, Germans as such could not conquer their own grandmothers backyard, it was not his awesome generals, awesome generals fucked up WW1, it was not even the famous German discipline which without a proper driving force is either useless or autodestructive.

It was all Hitler, he took all the bits and pieces and made them work together, the guy was epically twisted but the word epic is still there.
Sokrates   
17 Mar 2009
Love / Do Poles ignore domestic abuse? [54]

Ignore?! We support it! We have wife abuse classes, lessons on how to chase down the hiding spouse and how to kick her ass if she's holding a blunt object.

Seriously though no we do not, barring patological families and couples domestic abuse is not accepted.
Sokrates   
17 Mar 2009
History / Roman Dmowski- Polish Adolf Hitler? [219]

Excusing Hitler, racist...

Not really but apparently you're too dumb to read what's written in plain english :)
Sokrates   
17 Mar 2009
News / Germany seeks extadition of Sobibor death camp guard. [65]

Actually, I was relying on what an Israeli said.

I could go on how Judaism is basically an adaptation of much much older religions and myths, the deluge, the creation, forbidden fruit, tower of Babel, all of these are much older than Judaism and can be found worldwide in various forms, in Egypt for example the crucification of Jesus is presented as the death of Horus who gets back from the dead after three days under the cross shaped constellation.

But it's interesting, isn't it?

Whether Jesus existed? Yes it is but i would not take anything Christianity or Judaism says at face value.
Sokrates   
17 Mar 2009
News / Germany seeks extadition of Sobibor death camp guard. [65]

Most believe he existed because of The Dead Sea scrolls.

Thats nice.

Israel, you can take tours and a guide tells people about the history.

Of how the dead sea scrolls contain no reference to Jesus whatsoever?

I'm sure scholars the world over have attended.

Attended a rubbish lecture by tour guides? Maybe that explains why you thought the scrolls said anything about Jesus, they did not.
Sokrates   
17 Mar 2009
History / Anger over Bielski detachment film [5]

I suspect you'd like to be friends with people who made that movie Harry, then you could all burn a Polish flag and be happy little hobbits :)
Sokrates   
17 Mar 2009
History / Roman Dmowski- Polish Adolf Hitler? [219]

Yet Warsaw8 says he wasn't a racist. If Hitler wasn't a racist then the word has no meaning at all.

He was a pragmatic racist willing to relinquish his racism to support other goals which is what Warsaw tries to get across but he was a racist.

The skinheads in Poland, those that like NS music, need to get a grip

And a job, on a minefield.
Sokrates   
17 Mar 2009
News / Germany seeks extadition of Sobibor death camp guard. [65]

If he wasn't a jew then how did he end up being born in Israel to a jewish family?

Yehudi, we could even argue whether Jesus existed given that his crucifiction and the three day ressurrection is a clear sun cycle visible in Egyptian Horus thing, Celtic and Aztec religion, its basically a recycle of old pagan beliefs concerning the sun and the serpent, Jews recycled the old Sumer beliefs of the same category and gave the sun a name "Jesus".

Not that I care, but you're making nonsense of your own religion.

As well as of your religion and of Islam, these three religions are based on symbolics of earlier pagan religions and fabricate facts at will, for example there was no Noah, ever.

The entire myth of Noah is taken from the Sumerian myths of deluge. Same goes for much of the Bible, Torah and Koran, we dont know if Jesus even existed or was he simply a personified symbol so making him a Jew is tricky.

If he existed he could for example be Greek or even Roman, we're not dealing with a practical source when we talk about the Bible.
Sokrates   
17 Mar 2009
News / Germany seeks extadition of Sobibor death camp guard. [65]

All this time the claim has been Jesus is Jewish and yet he wasn't?

Jesus' lineage is completely unknown and based on allegations.

The claim is Jews killed Jesus and yet he wasn't even Jewish?

We 'know' Jews killed Jesus, we know he existed, we dont know if he was Jewish (though in all probability he was).

His followers thought he would save the jews.

With an armed uprising.

In the bible it says Jesus was from the King David/Solomon line too, he was prophesied.

In the same bible it says bushes talk, remember that its a book written by people with sympathies and views, it should not be taken at face value.

Plenty of people think he's a false messiah and is leading people to destruction. Is something to think about, Joe, my friend.

No they are not, Jesus is considered a prophet and a positive figure by virtually all religions save Judaism.
Sokrates   
16 Mar 2009
News / Germany seeks extadition of Sobibor death camp guard. [65]

Israels reponsce to the first request was that evidence is insufficient, evidence constituting of hundreds of accounts of survivors who saw Morel kill and torture and recognized him years after was turned down as insufficient which was an obvious lie of the kind you spout here.

The second was that Morels crime did not constitute a breach of Israels law in regards to crimes against humanity, as for victims, the primary victims of Morels murders were Home Army Poles whom he killed accusing them of working with the Nazi regime, being chief of prison he knew perfectly well who they are and that they are innocents, he also murdered German women and children though they were a minority.
Sokrates   
16 Mar 2009
News / Germany seeks extadition of Sobibor death camp guard. [65]

Israel has a standard policy - no Jew can be a war criminal.

Oh Morel was not a war criminal, his crimes constituted "crimes against humanity" which Israel rebuffed making it out that killed Polish women and children are not human since killing them is not such a crime.
Sokrates   
16 Mar 2009
History / UPA barbarian murders on Polish and Jewish neighbors during WW2 [150]

Wouldn't that mean they are mixed with people who have lighter skin tones?

Not really, mostly it means that you need education like so many people here, Jews aquired their complection through prolonged exposure to intense sunlight with later generations being born with darker complection as a result of adjustment, Jews in Poland and further east simply adapted over generations getting a lighter skin tone.

when you see drawings of the ancient Canaanites and other artwork featuring them, they are dark.

Ancient Jews and modern Jews are two completely ethnically different groups, they're connected by religion but tradition and civilization are different since Jews lost pretty much all their civilizational heritage once they scattered and lost their cities to Rome, this is one of the primary reasons why today religion amounts to culture for them.
Sokrates   
12 Mar 2009
History / Anger over Bielski detachment film [5]

Fucking disgrace, murderers and bandits sold as heroes, we should dig untill we find some grounds on which to sue this little dipshit as well as forward the film to our media to rip it apart.

Soon we will get a movie where heroic Jewish NKVD officers murdered our civilians in self defence.
Sokrates   
12 Mar 2009
History / Roman Dmowski- Polish Adolf Hitler? [219]

1. Unable to deal with minorities' problem in Poland - it refers not to the Polish Jews only but to Ukrainians or Germans as well.

There was no way to deal with minorities in Poland.

Germans were hostile for obvious reasons.
Jews were pro-communist and generally anti-Polish as 1939 would show.
Ukrainians wanted Lwów and Galicia.

Unless someone would resort to genocide which was of course out of the question there was no way to appease the largely hostile minorities.

2.On the contrary to Pilsudski he obviously underestimated the Russian (not even to mention Bolsheviks!) threat to Poland.

Russia itself had militarily problems finding its own asshole without a map, politically still relatively inept and new it was (before WW2) much less of a threat than Germany.

3.Yes, he was antisemitic but not even to compare with Hitler.

No he was not, he distrusted Jews and viewed them as hostile towards Poland, Russian occupation during which majority of the Jews turned away from Poland and Poles proved him right.

He always tried to prove his anti-Jewish rants were of purely political nature.

History proven him right and yes his "anti-Jewish" rants had solid political basis and were rooted only in this.

First you read his books published as Kazimierz Wybranowski no doubt about Dmowskis' true feelings towards Jews.
However not the hitlerites' type "untermensch" craze.

He did not LIKE Polish Jews, why? Because he was a patriot and major part of Jews were anti-Polish, its quite obvious that if you love your country and certain minority is hostile towards it you wont like them, that doesnt make you anti-semit.
Sokrates   
12 Mar 2009
History / Roman Dmowski- Polish Adolf Hitler? [219]

Well i see nothing in Dmowski's views as anti-semitic, according to the Bible Jews did murder Jesus, also Poland did have a "Jewish problem" and Soviet occupation proved Dmowski de facto right when the masses of Jews instantly and enthusiastically betrayed Poland and assisted the Soviets in murder of Polish elites, if you have a hostile minority encouraging them to get the hell out is the right thing to do.

Same for a country with many minorities, when you have a country with many different nationalities a singular loyalty is not possible, especially if these nationalities come from neighbouring states and have conflicting agendas.

A very pragmatic and fair man who wanted whats best for Poland even at the price of political correctness.
Sokrates   
11 Mar 2009
News / Germany seeks extadition of Sobibor death camp guard. [65]

Israelis have a long tradition of protecting murderers, it appears that lives of non-Jews hold little value in Israel, if you want to read a really messed up tale google Solomon Morel.

The responce of Israeli goverment back then was basically that "Polish people are not human" therefore they will not extradict him.
Sokrates   
9 Mar 2009
Love / I need some advice about a Polish young lady. [21]

Second, I don't know if I should really get involved with her religion but from what I know about her I feel the Jehovah's Witnesses are giving her the wrong advice.

Stay clear of Jehovas, they're borderline dangerous and yes they do brainwash their followers pretty badly.

Fourth, I would like to help her live a normal life that every young person should enjoy.

First you need to contact her family, if they're all Jehovas you might as well quit now but if they're concerned about her you need to get them in touch with a specialist, stay clear of church institutions or psychologists, a psychiatrist is what you're looking for.

Get together with her family and convince her to go to the psychiatrist, find out if she has a hobby or an interest and help her pursue it so she has a different point of focus and then keep her pre-occupied with attractive past time or career activities all the while seeing to it that she's being under care from her family and therapist, and have lots of patience.

So its gonna cost you money patience and effort, lots of 'em.
Sokrates   
9 Mar 2009
Love / Do Polish men have a problem with Tatto's on women? [47]

A few polish men i know think tattoo's on women are discusting and vile does this go for all poles?

All no but majority yes, personally i think that tatooes on a woman are disgusting and unless blind stupid in love i wouldnt touch her with a ten foot pole.

Women should be natural, personally i find women who are tatooed repulsive.
Sokrates   
7 Mar 2009
Love / Whose Life is it? Polish girlfriend under family "house arrest" [224]

Hi all....just ti update you all on the situation. After taking alot of your advice I had said to myself to forget the wholw thing

Good man.

IF YOUR CONFUSED BOUT THIS THEM HOW YOU THINK IM FEELING RIGHT NOW !!

I'd go in depth as to how some women want to have multiple admirers and like to keep men in "reserve" but i'm just going to tell you she's fucking with you and the "forget her" option is still the best for you:)