News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]


There is no plan. Poland owes Germany nothing. Poland was helped into the EU because it was the right thing to do. Poland has been part of, and has been contributing towards europe for over 1000 years - it deserves a little more respect. How easy is it for cowards to kick an old man when he's down.

PS. I'm not sulking, moaning, bitter, envious, frustrated bla bla....I'm just saying it the way it is.


I love you too...:)

Love / Do Polish men like aggressive women? [26]


Sorry didn't mean that.
Just my opinion - You mentioned that you like the men to make the first move - well that goes with that saying - any woman that pursues a man is worth nothing - a woman feels better when approached. The woman has more intelligence than the male (in this situation) and is able to attract the attention of that male very indirectly - or just with a look - as someone said. This may sound obvious but that's the meaning "A woman always chooses a man to choose her." Of course a man can approach a woman with no prior vibes but the man is less likely to succeed - and he knows that - which is why he usually waits for (the sign) the woman to choose him to choose her (although they will never admit to that)


When a woman dumps a men it's usually more messy because it takes longer (emotions and indecision) and prolongs the trauma - hence women do destroy men in that sense - and the saying "there's only one thing that can do that to a man..."

Love / Do Polish men like aggressive women? [26]

if you confuse them - you lose them

Life / What makes you proud to be Polish? [150]


I'm proud to be Polish because Poles tend to be modest and humble.
No one likes a smart *ss


the Ukranian militia (the PAIN cuts deep and will never fade)

... but that's all over - we've got a football tournament to run now!

Love / Do Polish men like aggressive women? [26]

it just seems unatural when a women is aggressive (unless they are drunk) but a gentleman would never take advantage;)

There is an old saying which I have heard amongst the older generation -
any woman that pursues a man is worth nothing.

Love / Do Polish men like to flirt? [42]


it just seems unatural when a women is aggressive (unless they are pissed) but a gentleman would never take advantage;)

For the US (pissed/drunk)

Real Estate / When is the law changing to allow foreigners to buy land in Poland? [32]


You can have tax which is good, but you can have too much tax - my gripe.

Health and safety is good ie building sites - but why can't kids play conkers. It's RIDICULOUS! In some countires if you spill hot McDonalds coffee on yourself - it's your own damn fault for being so stupid. All the stuff we did as kids that is now banned. People don't do anything anymore for fear of being sued or punished.

Correct - Chavs were not as bad as Skinheads. Skins were a very well defined subculture and did not blend with society. They kept themselves separate. Yes they faught, stabbed etc but they had some dignity - however chavs are blending in with our children, taking over the schools, bars, streets - subtle but rotten to the core.

I don't mean if your kid goes out they will get jacked - more like your kid will end up falling under the wrong influence, get invloved with bad apples and become chavs themselves. I've seen it happen to other kids. Some of the best schools have been infiltrated by scum.

Real Estate / When is the law changing to allow foreigners to buy land in Poland? [32]


No of course it's not the fault of the British people it's just the way the country is run. approx 70% of my friends here are immigrants from various countries and they all came here for the money. Not one of them is happy with their quality of life. It seems like the only way you can make lots of money here is to buy houses, do them up as cheaply as possible and sell them for profit - and even this is contributing to the coutries decline. Now they want to go to Poland to do the same. (phew back on topic)

Love / Do Polish men like to flirt? [42]


There is nothing wrong with your situation. I get the impression that you would like to seduce this young man. It's ok to get other peoples oppinions when doing something unusual - especialy if for the first time. It's ok - go for it.

Polish men are more mature and maybe old fashioned/romantic/passionate when it comes to ladies. They are more forward because they understand that there is nothing wrong with approaching a woman for intimate reasons or just to show respect or gain companionship. They see themselves as gentlemen - the older generation still kiss the back of the hand. Also, women in Poland are more receptive to the mans advance and make him feel better even if it's a rejection. In the west women seem jaded and just tell you to fak orf - usually becuase of the wanka she has just delt with.

If a man offers chocolates and complements you - it does not automatically mean he wants to have sex with you - becuase women should not have to automatically think that's what the man wants. A woman should be able to receive gifts and complements and see them for what they are. The sex will come or not come in time.

This western pc crap has not taken over yet in Poland so men and women behave differently. Men can be men and women can be women.


It's always the woman that brings up the age gap between men and women, whichever way round it is. Men don't really care because it's not important - to a mature person anyway.

It's ok for a woman to see a younger man becuase it's a great complement to the woman. It also gives her power over the male.

It's digraceful if a older man sees a younger girl becuase the older woman is jealous.

However - one thing will always be true.
The woman always chooses the man to choose her.


You have one - short life - so if something inspires you and makes you feel good - do it - but not care free. Make sure your your eyes are wide open.

Real Estate / When is the law changing to allow foreigners to buy land in Poland? [32]


Born in the UK I have seen the streets become crowded, poluted, noise polution, nanny state, health and safety out of control, the food poisened, people getting fatter, social degradation, lack of repect, kids out of control, parents/teachers/police powerless, chavs rule, ladish behaviour fri/sat nite, crap schools, your child can't go out alone, or it will probably turn into a chav, crap health care, everything in shops a rip-off, noone can afford a house anymore, debts out of control, noone talks to their neighbours, everything is taxed, no more seasons (damp constant autumn) it's all about money- you earn lots but blow it on cost of living, east europeans come here for the money only, they work like dogs and live like dogs - eventually they go home because they get tired. That's not what life is about.

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]

All the best isthatu. If you need any more grenades in the "rekonstrucja Powstanie Warszawskie" just whistle. I'm be right behind you, mopping up the Gerries you deck.

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


Im sorry for any offense. The above is not a very nice thing to say. It goes against anything that is fair, decent and civilised. Don't you think? Where is the humility? I am not the person you think and there is a lot to be said if people actually beleive the above.


I am looking forward but only look back when provoked.


Also isthatu sorry for any offense. You say they call you Norman etc - why the interest/knowledge of this topic - if I assume you are not a Pole? Why is it your concern?

Have you been to Warsaw? Have you studied History of Poland? Do you know how it ticks?


It was in 1939 and 1944. 1945 was result of Roosevelt crapping on Poland. Churchill did not sell poland to Stalin.


These were Polish prisoners which were forced to fight with hitler - or die. They were not captured - they had already given themselves up by then. You see this is different. You made it sound like they enlisted by free will in your post.

No Pole collaborated with Hitler. If they did, they were forced to or they were germanic origin living in Poland already etc. Unfortunately this causes a grey area which adds to the confusion. There were many people fighting for hitler with Polish names. Confusing isnt it.


So was the Lublin Government controlling the US and Roosevelt then? Didn't know they were so powerful.

I'm not covering up anything.

isthatu - you have been a worthy apponent. It's been good debating with you. I have to go away for a while.

One last thing - you are so lucky not to have been born in Poland.

To infinity and beyond...

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]

Nice one. Next time something bad happens to you - I'll be the first to remind you of that. Have a nice day:)

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]

Note* Sorry everyone else who is on topic. I don't like to say these things because it's not necessary. I only say them when the honour and integrity of war time Poland is questioned:)


Just saying you were favouring the soviet story of events. Don't get the Warsaw pact bit - please expand


Now that is patronizing. I get the impression you THINK you know more than others.


The first one I didn't say - what does that mean?
Yes I called you a child because you talk about things which to some people are sacred and any other mature person would skirt around and not seek to undermine, when it is really none of your concern in the first place.


This is not unique. It's interesting because it 's 100% relevant to our discussion - particularly when it come to providing accurate information when you occassionally struggle to do so.


Maybe before 1920 when half of Poland was ruled and oppressed by Germany. After 1920 not likely - they were glad to break free. Also there were no known Polish collaborators in WWII


There you go again trying to take the heat of UK. It was the UK that organised the deal. Poland asked UK for help and UK kindly said yes because it was the right thing to do. France agreed to be part of it. France had the largest army and so was the biggest dissapointment. Of course you know that the first man to commit suicide of the Warsaw Stalin Tower was French - because it was a more honourable place to die than the Eiffel Tower.


You probably missed this while leafing through your documents. The UK did this in good faith to make up for their betrayal. The UK government was man enough to admit what they did. Unlike you.


The US gave UK tanks and guns to use after UK left all it's stuff in France after Dunkirk. UK Navey RULED. Britain then kicked Gerry *ss.


Wikipedia gives access to people who know what they are talking about - to chronicle world events etc and funilly enough tell the truth. Their comments, if untrue can be edited/corrected by others. It is updated and monitored. Remember - most history you read in books is propaganda led. Other traditional sources of info still maintain that Polish cavalry charged German tanks - and that William the Conquerer was French.


Norman - you have access to lots of historical information. Some true - some false. It's your responsibility to find the truth and base your comments on that. But that is not always desirable becuase sometimes the truth is disturbing - at worst inconvenient.


Lol

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]

I disagree. I think most developed counties would not lie down to an enemy. It just depends on what cards they are holding at the time. Poland has always had a crap hand and the dealers are always Russian or German. The UK always plays with a strong set of cards. If it has a weak hand it does nothing.

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


England opened up a second front to allow the US in to bail out Europe for the second time in 20 years.

Hitler never even intended to invade UK - the plans were a smoke screen for the invassion of Russia. Hitler was crap on the sea. The channel saved UK - as it has always done except for 1066.


Isthatu started it :)

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


How do you define fighting?
England initially never raised a finger. That's why the brits called it the "Phoney War" remember??

Fight (Contend with in battle or in single combat)
Phoney (counterfeit - sham - fraudulent )


Where? You state "exhaustion" and "resupply" as the reason. Then about blind attacks.
Your comments are Red bias my friend.

Let me put it to you bluntly. If Warsaw was Moscow or any other Russian city - the red army would have gone in. Instead you pick up on old propoganda and assume it's true.

Listen mate - I have both German and Polish Grandfathers. They were both involved in the war. Interesting that - isn't it.

Beleive me I know.


You really know how to hit a man when he's down - coward :)


On D-Day 4,000 US/allied troop were butchered in the first 20mins. Some would call that suicide? - but you do what it takes - like a man. What were the US fighting for? A lot less...


I have no reason for paranoia. During the uprising, my Grandfather decided to stay behind the lines and help with organisation and transport. He was a tough man - but he did this because even he was afraid - he was f***king afraid. He never liked to admit that. Many others were the same. I tell you this for your own education. You will never really know. Hard core respect goes out to those frontline men. What they did. If you have any respect for these people who represented Warsaw as a "whole" then you need not bring up that fact that some didn't fight. I don't blame them. Don't undermine their honour. Let it lie.


The only fact I need - my Grandfathers boot on your *ss.


Let me enlighten you. This was the deal. If Germany attacked, Poland would hold for 2 weeks and give time for the largest army on earth (France) and England to attack from the west - hence easing pressure off the Poles. They made their excuses but Poland held out for a little longer - but only gave up because they ran out of food and amo. They were kicking Gerry *ss most of the time and could have continued if supported. Hitler's army had not yet seen real action before Poland. They were not 100% sure yet of their capabilities. The allies failed to support Poland. Hitler beat Poland and became cockey. If England France had done what they said and even Russia had taken the initiative then, Hitler would have been crushed in Poland and WWII would have ended there. That's why honour is so important - but almost non existatnt today.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Krojanty

You can read all about 1-17th september battles here. It's a shame Britain missed the party.

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]

Poles come to England because they are in the EU - as in union. Member countries are one and movement of people is expected. People go to whichever part of the union that is most attractive to them at the time. England is most attractive at this time. Tomorrow it will somewhere else. Some will stay - some will leave. For poles the attraction is better wages (for now). Brits go to Spain for the weather. etc etc In 100 years the EU population will be completely mixed.

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


Is that what they told you in 1944? Your naivety is spectacular.


No matter how prepared - you get casualties (hear about D-day?) Poles had the right spirit. They were just as "exhausted" but they were too few. At least they tried. They did'nt get the back up to succeed. They didnt need the whole red army to break through.


Again this happens in war - soldiers were surrounded by chaos at this time. It's NO EXCUSE for denying these heroic missions landing space.


You child. What does it matter how many fought? The fact that the majority did is enough. They did it for principal. I thought you knew your history? They had no choice becuase they knew their neighbours intentions (from history). They stood and fought for their own freedom. Why? Because they would have rather died than be ruled by Russia again. You have no idea.


You just did.


Britain was dropping leaflets. France whistled into the wind.

Poland took on the German army alone. 2 days my *ss.

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Love / Sending this poem to a girl - cheezy or not? [53]

(for people who have already slept together)

A poem is a poem.
If she likes you she will like the poem - no matter how bad - because you sent it.
If she's not interested she will not like the poem.

No sorry - the last bit is wrong.
If she's not interested - and the poem is good - she may become interested.

But the poem has to rock!! big time

Actually - lets face it - were talking about women here - so who the hell knows...

Travel / 2-week vacation in Poland - it was awesome! Culture shock interesting. [29]

Forgot to metion New Year's Eve in Zak is fully booked now. You can book for 08/09 now - unless you want to pick up a room renting mounty Mama from the bus station who tells you off for oversleeping and coming back late drunk:)

Travel / 2-week vacation in Poland - it was awesome! Culture shock interesting. [29]

New Year's Eve in Krakow is awesome but up in Zakopane is where the party is hard core. My God! As you probably know if you find the right local you can hire this ride yourself but at night with flaming torches and a bottle of wodka. There is no "Health & Safety" in Poland :)

Travel / 2-week vacation in Poland - it was awesome! Culture shock interesting. [29]

Yes That was 2 years ago in January when it was -28C.
This guy here is standing on the frozen sea in Sopot.

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Travel / 2-week vacation in Poland - it was awesome! Culture shock interesting. [29]

But then Sopot is great in winter too

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Travel / 2-week vacation in Poland - it was awesome! Culture shock interesting. [29]

Actually Warsaw still does it for me all year round.

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Travel / 2-week vacation in Poland - it was awesome! Culture shock interesting. [29]

But then Zakopane takes over in winter.

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Travel / 2-week vacation in Poland - it was awesome! Culture shock interesting. [29]

Near Sopot

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Travel / 2-week vacation in Poland - it was awesome! Culture shock interesting. [29]


Just came back from Gdynia - Sopot - Gdansk. Depends. At the beach, on the high street in the day I saw many kids in bars. In the beach bars they were sitting at the bar sipping juice. No problem. Felt very normal. No kids in trendy bars at any time. Later in eve no kids - of course. Weather - hot - humid. Average 35C. Night 20C. You can hear crickets at night. Sounds like tropical place. Beaches are fantastic. Fine white sand and trees up to the sand - and on the beach sometimes. In Gdynia lots of play grounds for kids on the beach. 10/10

News / Poland biggest problem [125]

In 1945, the Polish authorities were about to abandon the hopeless ruins of Warsaw and move the capital back to Krakow. However the proud residents refused to leave and therefore warsaw was reborn, unfortunately under the communists which is why it's so ugly. The atmosphere has changed becuase the commis have gone. Now after 50 years they can show how proud they are again.


That's what residents of capital cities are supposed to be like. It's the capital. Just look at Paris - it's arrogance is legendry. Yes I know Paris is beautiful - but that's because it did not stand and fight for it's freedom.

Going back to the point. Polands biggest problem is that it's still under the shadow of the war, especially Warsaw because it looks shocking. It angers me when outsiders see it for what it is, they scoff and think it's always been that way. It looks like Hitler and Stalin got their way in the end - well for now anyway. Varsovians are not going to let themselves be put down.

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]


Here in the UK the average person can no longer afford to buy a house. I earn above average wage and I could only afford half a house - the rest my parents gave me. The prices started going up around 1998. In 1997 I was offered a house for £95,000. Now that same house is worth £400,000. This is because people are buying houses, renovating them cheaply and renting them or selling for profit. It's pure greed. A house should be purchased by people to live in and raise families. Now the same thing is going on in Poland.