Crow
28 Nov 2008
History / Famous Polish Russians. [26]
now Poles don`t complaint that Russia didn`t give you anything
now Poles don`t complaint that Russia didn`t give you anything
Crow
28 Nov 2008
Crow
28 Nov 2008
News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]
technical error
i wanted to say Polish friends but, now when i think it could be also said Polish fiends
Polish `freinds`
technical error
i wanted to say Polish friends but, now when i think it could be also said Polish fiends
Crow
28 Nov 2008
Crow
28 Nov 2008
News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]
i will tell you what Poland got... Poland got order to screw Serbians, in order to prove her fully NATO membership... later, Polish `freinds` would give to Poles Obama of Eurabia... then, giving would be complete
What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others?
i will tell you what Poland got... Poland got order to screw Serbians, in order to prove her fully NATO membership... later, Polish `freinds` would give to Poles Obama of Eurabia... then, giving would be complete
Crow
28 Nov 2008
News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]
let`s reverse question... What Serbians get out of the wars and struggles for Poles?
Tusk gave us simple answer... Serbians got big sh** in form of Polish Kosovo recognition.
What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others?
let`s reverse question... What Serbians get out of the wars and struggles for Poles?
Tusk gave us simple answer... Serbians got big sh** in form of Polish Kosovo recognition.
Crow
28 Nov 2008
History / Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth? [49]
hey Seanus you Scot, regards from Sindidun from us who still sit in office
here is how Scordisci make fun of mute languages.... here is something for you to relax a little :)
Orthodox Celts - Star Of The County Down
Orthodox Celts - Green Roses (bdw, favourite song of Serbian general Ratko Mladic) ;)
Irish Stew of Sindidun - Puzzle of Life
Irish Stew of Sindidun- Weila, Weila
song about Scordisci on original native Celtic language on true Serbian, with addition of original ethnic Serbian sounds...
Orthodox Celts / Madam Piano - Galija (Boii brothers from Czech Rep. like this very much, song could be heard on last pro-Serbian protest in Prague)
Seanus
hey Seanus you Scot, regards from Sindidun from us who still sit in office
here is how Scordisci make fun of mute languages.... here is something for you to relax a little :)
Orthodox Celts - Star Of The County Down
Orthodox Celts - Green Roses (bdw, favourite song of Serbian general Ratko Mladic) ;)
Irish Stew of Sindidun - Puzzle of Life
Irish Stew of Sindidun- Weila, Weila
song about Scordisci on original native Celtic language on true Serbian, with addition of original ethnic Serbian sounds...
Orthodox Celts / Madam Piano - Galija (Boii brothers from Czech Rep. like this very much, song could be heard on last pro-Serbian protest in Prague)
Crow
27 Nov 2008
History / Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth? [49]
how it this possible?
Materials and Documents
msz.gov.pl/files/file_library/31/9905_313.doc
Second half of the 15th Century
how it this possible?
Materials and Documents
msz.gov.pl/files/file_library/31/9905_313.doc
Second half of the 15th Century
Crow
27 Nov 2008
History / Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth? [49]
i agree with you, absolutely. i can even say that Serbs don`t blame Poles for anything. Serbs are very aware that Polish leadership don`t give a sh** nor for Slaveno-Serbs, nor for Slaveno-Poles. Polish, same as current Serbian leadership simple obey to all demands that coming from `ubermenschen` masters.
But, its not that all Poles and Serbs obey to `EU Borg collective`. There are Poles and Serbs who find that being Slavic isn`t same as being sub-human. There are Poles and Serbs who believe in justice.... my next reply is dedicated to one of those free minded Poles
Materials and Documents
msz.gov.pl/files/file_library/31/9905_313.doc
ADDRESS
by Mr. Aleksander Kwaśniewski
President of the Republic of Poland
at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
Stockholm, 4th May, 1999
Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance
Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance
Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance
Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance
Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance
The decision of Kwaśniewski was the decision of but one man.
His idiocy, if indeed it was that, should not tie future generations of Poles.
His idiocy, if indeed it was that, should not tie future generations of Poles.
i agree with you, absolutely. i can even say that Serbs don`t blame Poles for anything. Serbs are very aware that Polish leadership don`t give a sh** nor for Slaveno-Serbs, nor for Slaveno-Poles. Polish, same as current Serbian leadership simple obey to all demands that coming from `ubermenschen` masters.
But, its not that all Poles and Serbs obey to `EU Borg collective`. There are Poles and Serbs who find that being Slavic isn`t same as being sub-human. There are Poles and Serbs who believe in justice.... my next reply is dedicated to one of those free minded Poles
Materials and Documents
msz.gov.pl/files/file_library/31/9905_313.doc
ADDRESS
by Mr. Aleksander Kwaśniewski
President of the Republic of Poland
at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
Stockholm, 4th May, 1999
Poland expressed support for the airborne campaign waged against Yugoslavia.
Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance
"Ethnic nationalists and fascists from Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo, which were defeated in the 2-nd World War, use the political system of Germany and USA in order to dismember Yugoslavia and clean-up Serbs from their territories". Advocates of those remnants of fascists in American Congress are senators Joe di Guardi (of Albanian origin) creator of PAC (Political Action Committee), and Bob Dole - both sponsored in their political activity by the heroin Mafia via so called "pizza connection".
It would not be right to separate the more general thinking on European security from reflections on the recent events in the Balkans. In the first days as a NATO member Poland presented its stand on ethnic cleansing, violation of basic human rights and the humanitarian disaster in Kosovo in conjunction with other member countries.
Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance
"Ethnic nationalists and fascists from Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo, which were defeated in the 2-nd World War, use the political system of Germany and USA in order to dismember Yugoslavia and clean-up Serbs from their territories". Advocates of those remnants of fascists in American Congress are senators Joe di Guardi (of Albanian origin) creator of PAC (Political Action Committee), and Bob Dole - both sponsored in their political activity by the heroin Mafia via so called "pizza connection".
At the same time we support all the concepts, plans and activities which could end the bloodshed, reinstate elementary justice and ensure peaceful existence to all peoples and ethnic communities in the Balkan region.
Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance
"Ethnic nationalists and fascists from Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo, which were defeated in the 2-nd World War, use the political system of Germany and USA in order to dismember Yugoslavia and clean-up Serbs from their territories". Advocates of those remnants of fascists in American Congress are senators Joe di Guardi (of Albanian origin) creator of PAC (Political Action Committee), and Bob Dole - both sponsored in their political activity by the heroin Mafia via so called "pizza connection".
NATO faces a complex choice. Should the member states' military power be used outside their territory to save the lives and rights of the Albanian minority in Kosovo? Are mass evacuations and bloody repression to be allowed and observed with indifference to which is occurring there? That is the dilemma we are facing as the present century, the century of the Holocaust, draws to a close. NATO's airborne attacks cannot be accepted with delight by anyone in his right senses, but was there any other way out when the authorities in Belgrade resisted all political persuasion?
Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance
"Ethnic nationalists and fascists from Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo, which were defeated in the 2-nd World War, use the political system of Germany and USA in order to dismember Yugoslavia and clean-up Serbs from their territories". Advocates of those remnants of fascists in American Congress are senators Joe di Guardi (of Albanian origin) creator of PAC (Political Action Committee), and Bob Dole - both sponsored in their political activity by the heroin Mafia via so called "pizza connection".
The Poles remember well that it was once claimed not worth dying for Gdańsk. It soon turned out that it was not only that old Baltic port city that the European had to die for on the many fronts of the Second World War.
Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance
"Ethnic nationalists and fascists from Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo, which were defeated in the 2-nd World War, use the political system of Germany and USA in order to dismember Yugoslavia and clean-up Serbs from their territories". Advocates of those remnants of fascists in American Congress are senators Joe di Guardi (of Albanian origin) creator of PAC (Political Action Committee), and Bob Dole - both sponsored in their political activity by the heroin Mafia via so called "pizza connection".
Crow
27 Nov 2008
History / Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth? [49]
there is life story of one of the greatest modern movie artist, according to international expert public...
Emir Kusturica
Religion and identity
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emir_Kusturica
Today, none of the Bosniaks says that they were Serbs before Turks ? They say we were Bogomils.
there is life story of one of the greatest modern movie artist, according to international expert public...
Emir Kusturica
Religion and identity
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emir_Kusturica
On Đurđevdan (St. George's Day) in 2005 Emir was baptised into the Serbian Orthodox Church as Nemanja Kusturica in Savina monastery near Herceg Novi, Montenegro.[8][9] To his critics who considered this the final betrayal of his Muslim roots [8], he replied that: "My father was an atheist and he always described himself as a Serb. OK, maybe we were Muslim for 250 years, but we were Orthodox before that and deep down we were always Serbs, religion cannot change that. We only became Muslims to survive the Turks."
Crow
27 Nov 2008
History / Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth? [49]
unbelivible
Serbs established their own state in the country? are you joking with people here?
Even Polish Queen Jadwiga originates from Bosnian Serbian medieval nobility. Bosnia, after Ras was crucial Serbian land before Turkish arrival.
Before Turks, Bosnia was Serbian Christian land, not Muslim land. Much before arrival of Turks Serbians lived in Bosnia and then during Ottoman occupation some Serbs accepted Islam and they are declared to be Bosniaks today. It can`t be that Serbs who didn`t accept Islamization have to be punished and that they don`t have right to have their state while Islamized Serbs can do whatever they want. Where is justice there?
In WWI, Serbs liberated Bosnia-Herzegovina from Turks and Austro-Hungaria and then Bosnia-Herzegovina joined in Yugoslavia (wasn`t anexed by Serbia but joined!).
In WWII Bosnian Muslims allay themselves with Nazi Germans and German puppet state of Croatia, enormous bestial genocide was commited on Orthodox Serbs and Catholic Serbs suffered due to cultural violance on them.
After the WWII Serbians were ready to forgive and they gave chance to Muslims. In 1991 Bosnian Muslim leadership decided to secade from Yugoslavia (no democratic process for secesion!), Serbs responded ``allright you go but we will stay in Yugoslavia`` (by Bosnian and Yugoslav constitution Bosnian Serbs, Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Croats were equal and constitutional nations of Bosnia-Herzegovina). Legaly and moraly, Serbs were absolutely right.
So, Bosnian Muslims wanted to create Muslim land and live in it, Serbs accepted that but defended their right to live in Christian land, on traditional Christian and Serbian ground.
But anyway, Bosnian Muslims attacked Serbs supported by Islamic world and NATO/EU, in alliance with mujaheedines and extreme Croatian ustashe. So called west decided that Bosnia-Herzegovina belong to Muslim world, Serbs din`t accept it and they resisted. Then Serbians were demonized in `western` media and attacked from multiple foes. When Serbs proved to be strong to even win no matter all ods, our civilans becomes target for NATO aviation during whole Civil War.
Even today Serbs understand that Islamized Serbs (Bosniaks) want to have their own Muslim state but also even today Serbs of Bosnia seek to achieve their Christian and national rights.
But, Serbs established their own state in the country. Serbs and Croats living in Bosnia & Hercegovina hang Serbia and Croatia flags to their balconies not Bosnia & Hercegovina flag. Only muslims don't hang their flag because they don't want another war.
unbelivible
Serbs established their own state in the country? are you joking with people here?
Even Polish Queen Jadwiga originates from Bosnian Serbian medieval nobility. Bosnia, after Ras was crucial Serbian land before Turkish arrival.
Before Turks, Bosnia was Serbian Christian land, not Muslim land. Much before arrival of Turks Serbians lived in Bosnia and then during Ottoman occupation some Serbs accepted Islam and they are declared to be Bosniaks today. It can`t be that Serbs who didn`t accept Islamization have to be punished and that they don`t have right to have their state while Islamized Serbs can do whatever they want. Where is justice there?
In WWI, Serbs liberated Bosnia-Herzegovina from Turks and Austro-Hungaria and then Bosnia-Herzegovina joined in Yugoslavia (wasn`t anexed by Serbia but joined!).
In WWII Bosnian Muslims allay themselves with Nazi Germans and German puppet state of Croatia, enormous bestial genocide was commited on Orthodox Serbs and Catholic Serbs suffered due to cultural violance on them.
After the WWII Serbians were ready to forgive and they gave chance to Muslims. In 1991 Bosnian Muslim leadership decided to secade from Yugoslavia (no democratic process for secesion!), Serbs responded ``allright you go but we will stay in Yugoslavia`` (by Bosnian and Yugoslav constitution Bosnian Serbs, Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Croats were equal and constitutional nations of Bosnia-Herzegovina). Legaly and moraly, Serbs were absolutely right.
So, Bosnian Muslims wanted to create Muslim land and live in it, Serbs accepted that but defended their right to live in Christian land, on traditional Christian and Serbian ground.
But anyway, Bosnian Muslims attacked Serbs supported by Islamic world and NATO/EU, in alliance with mujaheedines and extreme Croatian ustashe. So called west decided that Bosnia-Herzegovina belong to Muslim world, Serbs din`t accept it and they resisted. Then Serbians were demonized in `western` media and attacked from multiple foes. When Serbs proved to be strong to even win no matter all ods, our civilans becomes target for NATO aviation during whole Civil War.
Even today Serbs understand that Islamized Serbs (Bosniaks) want to have their own Muslim state but also even today Serbs of Bosnia seek to achieve their Christian and national rights.
Crow
27 Nov 2008
History / Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth? [49]
your mistake
unfortunately, i can`t say that i believed that Russia proved to be Polish loyal ally throughout time. Since long time ago i heard for Russian failure on Slavic west. I am sad about it and taking that as great tragedy.
Truth is that on Balkan Polish-Russian interests didn`t come in collision or even if there was such a situation Serbs did their best to balance and soften misunderstandings. It was in our best interest, in any sense
But i do believe that non-Slavic interests greately contributed to Polish-Russian antagonism and then profited. Having that in mind, i must say, seams that both- Poles and Russians failed to coordinate and respond properly on situation and foreign schemes.
This coming from the Slav who thought that Russia had proved over history to be a loyal ally of Poland....
your mistake
unfortunately, i can`t say that i believed that Russia proved to be Polish loyal ally throughout time. Since long time ago i heard for Russian failure on Slavic west. I am sad about it and taking that as great tragedy.
Truth is that on Balkan Polish-Russian interests didn`t come in collision or even if there was such a situation Serbs did their best to balance and soften misunderstandings. It was in our best interest, in any sense
But i do believe that non-Slavic interests greately contributed to Polish-Russian antagonism and then profited. Having that in mind, i must say, seams that both- Poles and Russians failed to coordinate and respond properly on situation and foreign schemes.
Crow
26 Nov 2008
History / Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth? [49]
Materials and Documents
msz.gov.pl/files/file_library/31/9905_313.doc
ADDRESS
by Mr. Aleksander Kwaśniewski
President of the Republic of Poland
at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
Stockholm, 4th May, 1999
in the same time:
Source:
Splintered Unity: Polish Politics and the Crisis
Konstanty Gebert
law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol8num3/feature/splintered.html
in the same time:
Source:
Splintered Unity: Polish Politics and the Crisis
Konstanty Gebert
law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol8num3/feature/splintered.html
in the same time:
Source:
Splintered Unity: Polish Politics and the Crisis
Konstanty Gebert
law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol8num3/feature/splintered.html
in the same time:
Source:
Splintered Unity: Polish Politics and the Crisis
Konstanty Gebert
law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol8num3/feature/splintered.html
in the same time:
Source:
Splintered Unity: Polish Politics and the Crisis
Konstanty Gebert
law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol8num3/feature/splintered.html
Materials and Documents
msz.gov.pl/files/file_library/31/9905_313.doc
ADDRESS
by Mr. Aleksander Kwaśniewski
President of the Republic of Poland
at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
Stockholm, 4th May, 1999
Poland expressed support for the airborne campaign waged against Yugoslavia.
in the same time:
The credibility of NATO's critics was somewhat undermined in mid-May, when Ikonowicz and Sierakowska acting against the explicit instructions of their party undertook a fact-finding mission to Belgrade and the refugee camps in Macedonia, returning with a full condemnation of both the raids and their rationale. Ikonowicz reported that he had failed to find any eyewitnesses to Serb atrocities among Albanian refugees, while according to him refugees said that they had fled not the Serb army but the KLA and NATO bombs.
Source:
Splintered Unity: Polish Politics and the Crisis
Konstanty Gebert
law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol8num3/feature/splintered.html
It would not be right to separate the more general thinking on European security from reflections on the recent events in the Balkans. In the first days as a NATO member Poland presented its stand on ethnic cleansing, violation of basic human rights and the humanitarian disaster in Kosovo in conjunction with other member countries.
in the same time:
The credibility of NATO's critics was somewhat undermined in mid-May, when Ikonowicz and Sierakowska acting against the explicit instructions of their party undertook a fact-finding mission to Belgrade and the refugee camps in Macedonia, returning with a full condemnation of both the raids and their rationale. Ikonowicz reported that he had failed to find any eyewitnesses to Serb atrocities among Albanian refugees, while according to him refugees said that they had fled not the Serb army but the KLA and NATO bombs.
Source:
Splintered Unity: Polish Politics and the Crisis
Konstanty Gebert
law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol8num3/feature/splintered.html
At the same time we support all the concepts, plans and activities which could end the bloodshed, reinstate elementary justice and ensure peaceful existence to all peoples and ethnic communities in the Balkan region.
in the same time:
The credibility of NATO's critics was somewhat undermined in mid-May, when Ikonowicz and Sierakowska acting against the explicit instructions of their party undertook a fact-finding mission to Belgrade and the refugee camps in Macedonia, returning with a full condemnation of both the raids and their rationale. Ikonowicz reported that he had failed to find any eyewitnesses to Serb atrocities among Albanian refugees, while according to him refugees said that they had fled not the Serb army but the KLA and NATO bombs.
Source:
Splintered Unity: Polish Politics and the Crisis
Konstanty Gebert
law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol8num3/feature/splintered.html
NATO faces a complex choice. Should the member states' military power be used outside their territory to save the lives and rights of the Albanian minority in Kosovo? Are mass evacuations and bloody repression to be allowed and observed with indifference to which is occurring there? That is the dilemma we are facing as the present century, the century of the Holocaust, draws to a close. NATO's airborne attacks cannot be accepted with delight by anyone in his right senses, but was there any other way out when the authorities in Belgrade resisted all political persuasion?
in the same time:
The credibility of NATO's critics was somewhat undermined in mid-May, when Ikonowicz and Sierakowska acting against the explicit instructions of their party undertook a fact-finding mission to Belgrade and the refugee camps in Macedonia, returning with a full condemnation of both the raids and their rationale. Ikonowicz reported that he had failed to find any eyewitnesses to Serb atrocities among Albanian refugees, while according to him refugees said that they had fled not the Serb army but the KLA and NATO bombs.
Source:
Splintered Unity: Polish Politics and the Crisis
Konstanty Gebert
law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol8num3/feature/splintered.html
The Poles remember well that it was once claimed not worth dying for Gdańsk. It soon turned out that it was not only that old Baltic port city that the European had to die for on the many fronts of the Second World War.
in the same time:
The credibility of NATO's critics was somewhat undermined in mid-May, when Ikonowicz and Sierakowska acting against the explicit instructions of their party undertook a fact-finding mission to Belgrade and the refugee camps in Macedonia, returning with a full condemnation of both the raids and their rationale. Ikonowicz reported that he had failed to find any eyewitnesses to Serb atrocities among Albanian refugees, while according to him refugees said that they had fled not the Serb army but the KLA and NATO bombs.
Source:
Splintered Unity: Polish Politics and the Crisis
Konstanty Gebert
law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol8num3/feature/splintered.html
Crow
26 Nov 2008
History / Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth? [49]
well, my dear, that... you must ask those who started that bloody Civil War , who had developed ideology of genocide and those aren`t Serbians
war is ugly as it is, in every war you have people who participiate in war as patriots and you have those who are criminals, people from black market... so, Serbs aren`t excluded from this unversal rule....
for example.... imagine Serbians in Middle age how as Racowie go to Poland to fight against Teutons and they beat Teutons... then imagine (there are no data about it but just theoreticaly) that some of those Racowie (maybe crazy due to war tragedy) raped some Polish woman or robbed some Polish peasent. Now, can you say that all Racowie mistaken for went in Poland to fight? Can you say that all Racowie are bad or that just that particular Racowie deserve punishment?
So, you see, Serbians defended themselves, they defended Yugoslavia/Serbia/Serbian lands from multiple foes, they defended Yugoslav doctrine against EU doctrine which needed to be imposed on them, etc, etc... if some Serb failed in that struggle and commited some crime he need to be punished and Serbs themselves deal with their own scum. But, you must understand that nature of real war unfortunately means brutality. Above everything you must understand that responsibility for war brutalities must fall on those who started war.
on the end, what you think... what saved Poland from Teutons? It was brutality, of course. Serbians killed for freedom of Poland, for Slavija. Racowie put Teutons to the sword, that`s what we gave to them! Then we screwd their ugly archduke and Austro-Hungaria to them, we destroyed their bussines with Turks... That`s why THEY hate us and there would be neverendless battle to the end of time if necesery, till the freedom of Sarmatia
How many wrongs does it take to make a right, Crow?
well, my dear, that... you must ask those who started that bloody Civil War , who had developed ideology of genocide and those aren`t Serbians
war is ugly as it is, in every war you have people who participiate in war as patriots and you have those who are criminals, people from black market... so, Serbs aren`t excluded from this unversal rule....
for example.... imagine Serbians in Middle age how as Racowie go to Poland to fight against Teutons and they beat Teutons... then imagine (there are no data about it but just theoreticaly) that some of those Racowie (maybe crazy due to war tragedy) raped some Polish woman or robbed some Polish peasent. Now, can you say that all Racowie mistaken for went in Poland to fight? Can you say that all Racowie are bad or that just that particular Racowie deserve punishment?
So, you see, Serbians defended themselves, they defended Yugoslavia/Serbia/Serbian lands from multiple foes, they defended Yugoslav doctrine against EU doctrine which needed to be imposed on them, etc, etc... if some Serb failed in that struggle and commited some crime he need to be punished and Serbs themselves deal with their own scum. But, you must understand that nature of real war unfortunately means brutality. Above everything you must understand that responsibility for war brutalities must fall on those who started war.
on the end, what you think... what saved Poland from Teutons? It was brutality, of course. Serbians killed for freedom of Poland, for Slavija. Racowie put Teutons to the sword, that`s what we gave to them! Then we screwd their ugly archduke and Austro-Hungaria to them, we destroyed their bussines with Turks... That`s why THEY hate us and there would be neverendless battle to the end of time if necesery, till the freedom of Sarmatia
Crow
26 Nov 2008
History / Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth? [49]
Seanus, i have to tell you something man, believe it or not... maybe, you know me enough that believe that i won`t simple BS things
i had opportunity to work with widow of that Blagojevic. She live with three (3) of their children, three little doughters
That's a sick picture. What did Blagojevic do to deserve that?
Seanus, i have to tell you something man, believe it or not... maybe, you know me enough that believe that i won`t simple BS things
i had opportunity to work with widow of that Blagojevic. She live with three (3) of their children, three little doughters
Crow
26 Nov 2008
History / Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth? [49]
exactly
Mujahedeen member of Bosnian Muslim Army holds decapitated head of Blagoja Blagojevic as a trophy for the camera in Crni Vrh. Bosnian Muslim Army systematically executed, tortured, and beheaded Bosnian Serbs
Source:
Srebrenica: The Untold Story
By Carl Savich
Introduction: What Really Happened in Srebrenica in 1992-1993?
serbianna.com/columns/savich/051.shtml
from Bosnia-Herzegovina to the Kosovo and Metohija, Serbians were asaulted by combined attacks of coalition which included NATO/EU special forces/mercenaries, Arab/Chechen/Affgan/Albanian/Bosnian mujaheedines, Croatian para-military formations
exactly
Mujahedeen member of Bosnian Muslim Army holds decapitated head of Blagoja Blagojevic as a trophy for the camera in Crni Vrh. Bosnian Muslim Army systematically executed, tortured, and beheaded Bosnian Serbs
Source:
Srebrenica: The Untold Story
By Carl Savich
Introduction: What Really Happened in Srebrenica in 1992-1993?
serbianna.com/columns/savich/051.shtml
from Bosnia-Herzegovina to the Kosovo and Metohija, Serbians were asaulted by combined attacks of coalition which included NATO/EU special forces/mercenaries, Arab/Chechen/Affgan/Albanian/Bosnian mujaheedines, Croatian para-military formations
Crow
26 Nov 2008
History / Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth? [49]
not all but, German schemes are powerful
Serben muß sterben, Germans used to say
Source:
To Serbia Via Poland
A travelogue by Piotr Bein
aeronautics.ru/archive/yu...a%20Poland.pdf
Serbs....doesn,t everybody want to bomb them.....?
not all but, German schemes are powerful
Serben muß sterben, Germans used to say
Source:
To Serbia Via Poland
A travelogue by Piotr Bein
aeronautics.ru/archive/yu...a%20Poland.pdf
Crow
26 Nov 2008
History / Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth? [49]
Materials and Documents
msz.gov.pl/files/file_library/31/9905_313.doc
ADDRESS
by Mr. Aleksander Kwaśniewski
President of the Republic of Poland
at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
Stockholm, 4th May, 1999
few years later:
Lamberto Dini: ``US and Britain Had to Have a Military Base in Serbia. So They Attacked...``
Former Italian Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini recently admitted
de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=3527
few years later:
Lamberto Dini: ``US and Britain Had to Have a Military Base in Serbia. So They Attacked...``
Former Italian Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini recently admitted
de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=3527
few years later:
Lamberto Dini: ``US and Britain Had to Have a Military Base in Serbia. So They Attacked...``
Former Italian Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini recently admitted
de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=3527
few years later:
Lamberto Dini: ``US and Britain Had to Have a Military Base in Serbia. So They Attacked...``
Former Italian Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini recently admitted
de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=3527
few years later:
Lamberto Dini: ``US and Britain Had to Have a Military Base in Serbia. So They Attacked...``
Former Italian Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini recently admitted
de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=3527Why Poland?
Why?
If Racowie didn`t gave you their best sons then nobody on this Earth didn`t give nothing to you
THEY lied on us Poles. Don`t trust to them, save your souls, don`t betray us... annul Kosovo recognition
I call all Polish patriots to understand that split of Serbian territory means that borders of Slavija had been violated!
Otpor! [Resistance!]
Materials and Documents
msz.gov.pl/files/file_library/31/9905_313.doc
ADDRESS
by Mr. Aleksander Kwaśniewski
President of the Republic of Poland
at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
Stockholm, 4th May, 1999
Poland expressed support for the airborne campaign waged against Yugoslavia.
few years later:
Lamberto Dini: ``US and Britain Had to Have a Military Base in Serbia. So They Attacked...``
Former Italian Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini recently admitted
de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=3527
It would not be right to separate the more general thinking on European security from reflections on the recent events in the Balkans. In the first days as a NATO member Poland presented its stand on ethnic cleansing, violation of basic human rights and the humanitarian disaster in Kosovo in conjunction with other member countries.
few years later:
Lamberto Dini: ``US and Britain Had to Have a Military Base in Serbia. So They Attacked...``
Former Italian Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini recently admitted
de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=3527
At the same time we support all the concepts, plans and activities which could end the bloodshed, reinstate elementary justice and ensure peaceful existence to all peoples and ethnic communities in the Balkan region.
few years later:
Lamberto Dini: ``US and Britain Had to Have a Military Base in Serbia. So They Attacked...``
Former Italian Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini recently admitted
de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=3527
NATO faces a complex choice. Should the member states' military power be used outside their territory to save the lives and rights of the Albanian minority in Kosovo? Are mass evacuations and bloody repression to be allowed and observed with indifference to which is occurring there? That is the dilemma we are facing as the present century, the century of the Holocaust, draws to a close. NATO's airborne attacks cannot be accepted with delight by anyone in his right senses, but was there any other way out when the authorities in Belgrade resisted all political persuasion?
few years later:
Lamberto Dini: ``US and Britain Had to Have a Military Base in Serbia. So They Attacked...``
Former Italian Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini recently admitted
de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=3527
The Poles remember well that it was once claimed not worth dying for Gdańsk. It soon turned out that it was not only that old Baltic port city that the European had to die for on the many fronts of the Second World War.
few years later:
Lamberto Dini: ``US and Britain Had to Have a Military Base in Serbia. So They Attacked...``
Former Italian Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini recently admitted
de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=3527Why Poland?
Why?
If Racowie didn`t gave you their best sons then nobody on this Earth didn`t give nothing to you
THEY lied on us Poles. Don`t trust to them, save your souls, don`t betray us... annul Kosovo recognition
I call all Polish patriots to understand that split of Serbian territory means that borders of Slavija had been violated!
Otpor! [Resistance!]
Crow
25 Nov 2008
History / Polish - Vikings relations [26]
but it didn`t save them from disaster.
Sarmatian (read Slavic) element, culture and lingustic heritage was forced to retreat from British islands and great deal of Baltic
same what are Germans in central Europe, English are on British islands.... products of Egyptian/Hellenic/Roman/Chartaginian/Moore conquest on native Europeans. It was penetration of foreign culture on Proto-Slavic/Slavic speaking areas which resulted in mix of population (in lower degree) and with linguistic chaos (in very high degree)... ultimately.... new culture was created- Germanics appeared on horizon and started `drang nach osten`. All what was Celtic, Galic, Etruscan, Sabinian, Trachian, Dacian, etc, etc, etc, etc... all was Sarmatian/Scythian (Slavic) and all was slain and subjugated to invaders, in many cases native languages were forgotten and new linguistic mix adopted, those who failed becomes winners and they then wrote the history
Even today, soul and slave hunters seek to grab more and more what is Slavic.
but it didn`t save them from disaster.
Sarmatian (read Slavic) element, culture and lingustic heritage was forced to retreat from British islands and great deal of Baltic
same what are Germans in central Europe, English are on British islands.... products of Egyptian/Hellenic/Roman/Chartaginian/Moore conquest on native Europeans. It was penetration of foreign culture on Proto-Slavic/Slavic speaking areas which resulted in mix of population (in lower degree) and with linguistic chaos (in very high degree)... ultimately.... new culture was created- Germanics appeared on horizon and started `drang nach osten`. All what was Celtic, Galic, Etruscan, Sabinian, Trachian, Dacian, etc, etc, etc, etc... all was Sarmatian/Scythian (Slavic) and all was slain and subjugated to invaders, in many cases native languages were forgotten and new linguistic mix adopted, those who failed becomes winners and they then wrote the history
Even today, soul and slave hunters seek to grab more and more what is Slavic.
Crow
25 Nov 2008
History / Polish - Vikings relations [26]
exactly. It was old and ancestral Sarmatian connection which was crucial for that relationship
another sign of close relationships between Polish rulers and Vikings.
exactly. It was old and ancestral Sarmatian connection which was crucial for that relationship
Crow
25 Nov 2008
History / Slavic mythology [44]
just spot how Balkan-Baltic Danubian cultural line/area greately contributed to Western civilization, ... from Dragon tradition to the Vampires, ...
its the primordial spring, garden, paradise... Its the story of Slavic continuity since time immemorial
on the base of all (articles, books, heard...) that i sow in my life i have come to conclusion that it seams possible that Proto-Slavic speaking people existed even before arrival on Balkan after Ice Age was finished, what would mean that Slavic civilzation was born maybe even 15.000 years ago and even earlier. Its quite amazing rich heritage
just spot how Balkan-Baltic Danubian cultural line/area greately contributed to Western civilization, ... from Dragon tradition to the Vampires, ...
its the primordial spring, garden, paradise... Its the story of Slavic continuity since time immemorial
on the base of all (articles, books, heard...) that i sow in my life i have come to conclusion that it seams possible that Proto-Slavic speaking people existed even before arrival on Balkan after Ice Age was finished, what would mean that Slavic civilzation was born maybe even 15.000 years ago and even earlier. Its quite amazing rich heritage
Crow
25 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]
Sarmatia Europae must be neutral on current military alliances or simple can`t be established. Way to independance goes via neutrality, not via NATO. NATO is way to confrontation, alliance with anti-Slavs against other Slavs. NATO is invitation for foreigners to enslave Slavs to the maximum, its suicide.
Formation of `Sarmatia Europae` means: freedom for Slavs (and their friends) involved in unity, it means unity arround emotional idea, it is restoration of strenght and light, independance. Neutrality means taking balanced position on current military alliances and political centers. Neutrality is reality.
Pan ADMIN- i would kindly ask you to correct title of this thread
its not Sarmatia Europe but Sarmatia Europae
Thanks
I would strongly reccommed that it stay in Nato. It could be a major Nato power.
Sarmatia Europae must be neutral on current military alliances or simple can`t be established. Way to independance goes via neutrality, not via NATO. NATO is way to confrontation, alliance with anti-Slavs against other Slavs. NATO is invitation for foreigners to enslave Slavs to the maximum, its suicide.
Formation of `Sarmatia Europae` means: freedom for Slavs (and their friends) involved in unity, it means unity arround emotional idea, it is restoration of strenght and light, independance. Neutrality means taking balanced position on current military alliances and political centers. Neutrality is reality.
Pan ADMIN- i would kindly ask you to correct title of this thread
its not Sarmatia Europe but Sarmatia Europae
Thanks
Crow
24 Nov 2008
History / UPA barbarian murders on Polish and Jewish neighbors during WW2 [150]
what to tell you people. Parliament of future Slavic union would be quite dangerous place
what to tell you people. Parliament of future Slavic union would be quite dangerous place
Crow
21 Nov 2008
Genealogy / How Poles regard their ancestors? Do they honor them with some custom? [4]
that`s my way, too
that`s my way, too
Crow
21 Nov 2008
Genealogy / How Poles regard their ancestors? Do they honor them with some custom? [4]
i`m just in the mood to start this thread now....
Today is November 21, St. Archangel Michael`s day by Orthodox calendar, my family SLAVA day by St. Sava`s Serbian Orthodox Church. But, due to various obligations i would celebrate tomorrow. Today, i managed to visit Church at least and to make preparations for tomorrow celebration.
Guests- my godfather, relatives and friends would come to my house, i would personally serve them,... i would do my best to endure whole morning/day/evening banquet/celebration (banquet on serb. `slava/slavlje`) on my legs while trying to avoid to sit on the chair with my guests (... its because, by tradition, people believe that while one serve his guest, his oldest ancestor sit on his right shoulder during celebration; in modern interpretation `giving maximum of honor to the ancestors`).
as Serbians believe, serving their guests during SLAVA day, they giving respect to their ancestors and together in union with them they worship their Saint protector of family (in my case- St. Archangel Michail), who present family to the Christ and His beloved Mother.
SLAVA is pre-Christian custom which was worshiped by ALL Slavs in deep past. Now, Serbs (particulary Balkan/Southern Serbs) are only Slavs that preserved old original custom (rituals), under its original name (Slava), in its Christianized form.
So, I would like to ask… How Poles regard and honor their ancestors?
Slava!
i`m just in the mood to start this thread now....
Today is November 21, St. Archangel Michael`s day by Orthodox calendar, my family SLAVA day by St. Sava`s Serbian Orthodox Church. But, due to various obligations i would celebrate tomorrow. Today, i managed to visit Church at least and to make preparations for tomorrow celebration.
Guests- my godfather, relatives and friends would come to my house, i would personally serve them,... i would do my best to endure whole morning/day/evening banquet/celebration (banquet on serb. `slava/slavlje`) on my legs while trying to avoid to sit on the chair with my guests (... its because, by tradition, people believe that while one serve his guest, his oldest ancestor sit on his right shoulder during celebration; in modern interpretation `giving maximum of honor to the ancestors`).
as Serbians believe, serving their guests during SLAVA day, they giving respect to their ancestors and together in union with them they worship their Saint protector of family (in my case- St. Archangel Michail), who present family to the Christ and His beloved Mother.
SLAVA is pre-Christian custom which was worshiped by ALL Slavs in deep past. Now, Serbs (particulary Balkan/Southern Serbs) are only Slavs that preserved old original custom (rituals), under its original name (Slava), in its Christianized form.
So, I would like to ask… How Poles regard and honor their ancestors?
Slava!
Crow
20 Nov 2008
News / Polish-Hungarian friendship - reality till today or just a phantasmagoria [144]
German, as always
Whose puppet they are?
German, as always
Crow
19 Nov 2008
Crow
17 Nov 2008
News / POLISH FOREIGN MINISTER IN TROUBLE OVER JOKE? [29]
yes, troubles started
let me suggest to Mr. Radek.... do your best to annul Kosovo recognition, just in case and, stop that mad man Tusk
don`t failed Mr. Radek, you never know...
POLISH FOREIGN MINISTER IN TROUBLE OVER JOKE
yes, troubles started
let me suggest to Mr. Radek.... do your best to annul Kosovo recognition, just in case and, stop that mad man Tusk
don`t failed Mr. Radek, you never know...
Crow
16 Nov 2008
History / Władysław Sikorski remains to be exhumed for cause of death [43]
do you realy believe that Russians didn`t know what prince Czartoryski doing among Serbians?
just one example of Polish-Serbian coordination...
with all due respect on Poland but, warm seas were always most important Russian foreign `investments`
Then, how to rule Poland taking in consideration religious differences. Foreign factor always managed to use those differences in order to divide Slavs even more. Considering those religious antagonisms, Russian failures on Slavic West were turned into real tragedies for Slavic world.... Russia was in unpleasent situation and needed reson to retreat from Poland
It is also important to underline traditional Polish-Serbian ties and tragic situation of both those ethoses. Both- Poles and Serbians desperately desired independance, both- from multiple factors. Serbians were convinced that Poles could help them (relying on tradition) and any Russian attempt to interfere in Polish-Serbian relations could be understand as attack on vital Serbian interests. For Serbians, liberations from Ottomans was priority, for Poles independance was imperative, for Russians warm seas were necesity. So, Russians didn`t risk to weaken their position among Serbs and they tolerated Polish-Serbian actions. Russians were also aware of mutual Polish-Serbian influence based on pure slavophilia and when they sow Polish-Serbian interaction which resulted in increasing Pan-Slavism they for sure sought an opportunity to let Poland get independance and even to profit on that (Polish resistance to Russia was increased but also to non-Slavs). Then Russians concentrated on Slavic South (warm seas) and greately pushed Turks, saving Serbians, saving warm seas for themselves.
When so called west sow development in Slavic world, that time France (Napoleon) lounched attack on Russia in order to support survivor of Ottoman Empire, leaving complete Slavic South on the silver plate to Ottomans, just to secure its economic investments in bussines with Turks/Muslim world. While internal Slavic relations were enough to provide mutual balance and independance of key Slavic players, self declared `Slavic masters` on so called west reacted to support non-European (Turks) invaders on Slavic world.
what pro-Russian rulers of Serbia?
Serbs like Russians for same reasons as they like Poles. My dear, it is Russian and Polish failure to divide over religious antagonism. Serbians were always above that. ALWAYS (don`t trust to anti-Serbian propaganda).
When Russia tried to force Serbia to obey to her, Russia learned that Serbians likes them but that they also has their specific interests. So, Serbian rulers who didn`t respect choice of Serbian people and inteligentsia were forced to abanden Serbian throne.
exactly!
and for that they needed Serbians and Serbians were sure that they need both-Russians and Poles. Russians needed to respect Serbian choice
millions of lives are millions of lives in any case and Poland got its independance. I guaranteed to you that Russians were ready and prepared for such a development.
Yes, Russians acted in their own interests. That exactly i want to show to you! In one moment, situation in Slavic world and our mutual necesities forced us to coordinate and to help to each others (as many times in history), sacrificing something of our own (sometimes/often selfish) interests.
i have respect for all Russians who enetered in WWI on the behalf of Serbian boosted with Pan-Slavic spirit, no matter stuborn Serbian responds to Russia. I am absolutely sure that Nicholas was among those people of Russia who believed that Poland deserve its independance same as Serbia- that`s the bottom line of his life, he paid with his life for his Pan-Slavic attitude when weakened Russia failed under communism because of German schemes.
Source for quotations:
Ilija Garasanin's "Nacertanije"
Institute for Balkan Studies
Serbian Academy of Arts and Sciences
Belgrade, Dusan T. Batakovic
rastko.org.yu/istorija/batakovic/batakovic-nacertanije_eng.html
How is that possible?
do you realy believe that Russians didn`t know what prince Czartoryski doing among Serbians?
just one example of Polish-Serbian coordination...
Prince Czartoryski's intention was to make conditions for the establishment of independent Poland by using the Eastern question.
Close contacts of the Polish émigrés with the Serbian Constitutionalists was the result of their common hostility towards Russia.
A large area of Poland was under Russian rule. Why on earth would they want Poland to regain their independence?
with all due respect on Poland but, warm seas were always most important Russian foreign `investments`
Then, how to rule Poland taking in consideration religious differences. Foreign factor always managed to use those differences in order to divide Slavs even more. Considering those religious antagonisms, Russian failures on Slavic West were turned into real tragedies for Slavic world.... Russia was in unpleasent situation and needed reson to retreat from Poland
It is also important to underline traditional Polish-Serbian ties and tragic situation of both those ethoses. Both- Poles and Serbians desperately desired independance, both- from multiple factors. Serbians were convinced that Poles could help them (relying on tradition) and any Russian attempt to interfere in Polish-Serbian relations could be understand as attack on vital Serbian interests. For Serbians, liberations from Ottomans was priority, for Poles independance was imperative, for Russians warm seas were necesity. So, Russians didn`t risk to weaken their position among Serbs and they tolerated Polish-Serbian actions. Russians were also aware of mutual Polish-Serbian influence based on pure slavophilia and when they sow Polish-Serbian interaction which resulted in increasing Pan-Slavism they for sure sought an opportunity to let Poland get independance and even to profit on that (Polish resistance to Russia was increased but also to non-Slavs). Then Russians concentrated on Slavic South (warm seas) and greately pushed Turks, saving Serbians, saving warm seas for themselves.
When so called west sow development in Slavic world, that time France (Napoleon) lounched attack on Russia in order to support survivor of Ottoman Empire, leaving complete Slavic South on the silver plate to Ottomans, just to secure its economic investments in bussines with Turks/Muslim world. While internal Slavic relations were enough to provide mutual balance and independance of key Slavic players, self declared `Slavic masters` on so called west reacted to support non-European (Turks) invaders on Slavic world.
But even that can be attributed towards the pro-Russian rulers of Serbia at the time.
what pro-Russian rulers of Serbia?
Serbs like Russians for same reasons as they like Poles. My dear, it is Russian and Polish failure to divide over religious antagonism. Serbians were always above that. ALWAYS (don`t trust to anti-Serbian propaganda).
When Russia tried to force Serbia to obey to her, Russia learned that Serbians likes them but that they also has their specific interests. So, Serbian rulers who didn`t respect choice of Serbian people and inteligentsia were forced to abanden Serbian throne.
With the help of Polish representatives, who sent Zwierkowski to Belgrade, the Constitutionalists organized a revolt in Serbia in 1842, and expelled Prince Michael Obrenovic. After that, Alexander Karadjordjevic officially became the new Prince.
Russia wanted to neutralize the Ottoman threat in the area. As well, they were looking for any pretext to redeem themselves after standing down to Austria-Hungary's threats a few years earlier...
exactly!
and for that they needed Serbians and Serbians were sure that they need both-Russians and Poles. Russians needed to respect Serbian choice
This does not make it o.k. The Russians were acting in their own interests.
millions of lives are millions of lives in any case and Poland got its independance. I guaranteed to you that Russians were ready and prepared for such a development.
Yes, Russians acted in their own interests. That exactly i want to show to you! In one moment, situation in Slavic world and our mutual necesities forced us to coordinate and to help to each others (as many times in history), sacrificing something of our own (sometimes/often selfish) interests.
I feel sympathy for the men who were forced to be cannon fodder, but not towards Nicholas or any of that aristocratic scum.
i have respect for all Russians who enetered in WWI on the behalf of Serbian boosted with Pan-Slavic spirit, no matter stuborn Serbian responds to Russia. I am absolutely sure that Nicholas was among those people of Russia who believed that Poland deserve its independance same as Serbia- that`s the bottom line of his life, he paid with his life for his Pan-Slavic attitude when weakened Russia failed under communism because of German schemes.
Source for quotations:
Ilija Garasanin's "Nacertanije"
Institute for Balkan Studies
Serbian Academy of Arts and Sciences
Belgrade, Dusan T. Batakovic
rastko.org.yu/istorija/batakovic/batakovic-nacertanije_eng.html
Crow
16 Nov 2008
History / Ancient Polish History thread [180]
who knows what we can found searching for deepest Polish roots...
What is with Polish history in time before great tribe of Polans made union with other tribes and before Polish nation was formed as unique branch of Slavic world?
Polish Sarmatism is well known fact of Polish history... Then, we know that Dacians were Sarmatians, same as Tracinas, even Celts and many others, that Scythians were branch of Sarmatians... we know for expansion of Danubian culture in continuity since paleolithic- from Balkan to Baltic, from Lusatia to the Russian stepes... it is fact that Slavic languages evolved in continuity since time immemorial... so, spot this...
Russians confirm Alexander was Macedonian
macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/4374/45/
who knows what we can found searching for deepest Polish roots...
What is with Polish history in time before great tribe of Polans made union with other tribes and before Polish nation was formed as unique branch of Slavic world?
Polish Sarmatism is well known fact of Polish history... Then, we know that Dacians were Sarmatians, same as Tracinas, even Celts and many others, that Scythians were branch of Sarmatians... we know for expansion of Danubian culture in continuity since paleolithic- from Balkan to Baltic, from Lusatia to the Russian stepes... it is fact that Slavic languages evolved in continuity since time immemorial... so, spot this...
Russians confirm Alexander was Macedonian
macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/4374/45/