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Moving to Poland, Working for a UK Company


OJK
23 Dec 2020 #1
My wife (and family) and I are planning to move to Poland next year. I am currently working in the UK and run my own business. However, an opportunity has arisen whereby I will be starting to work for a UK based company. My wife is a Polish National, but I plan to still work for this company remotely from Poland.

I would still be coming back to the UK, but my time would be mostly spent in Poland

My questions therefore are:

- How would I avoid being double-taxed?
- How would health care in Poland work?
- If I become an an employee of this company (using my UK NI) does this have an other knock on effects
- Besides just working for this company, I would have a couple of extra sources of income

Hope this makes sense. Any advise or experiences on this would be really appreciated.
rtfm 1 | 44
23 Dec 2020 #2
Hi, I'm in a similar position - I've moved to Poland with my Polish wife but am still working for my uk employer. There is a double taxation agreement with Poland so you will not pay tax twice. I've only been here for a few months but expect I will need an accountant at some point to sort my liabilities as Polish tax is higher so I may need to pay the difference. My advice would be to make sure you have plenty of savings to protect you from any tax you may have to pay and claim back later. Having said that, both my uk and and a polish family accountant have told me I won't pay any tax in Poland at all.

You will need health insurance to emigrate but you should be able to get an S1 form and have your uk NI contributions pay for your nfz (Polish national health) entitlement. You apply for this on the government gateway and the lead time is currently 3 weeks. You can also do by post but this is currently 12 weeks lead time!

Good luck!

It's probably obvious but once you've got the Polish healthcare via the s1 you won't qualify for NHS treatment but as you will be living abroad that would be the case anyway
OP OJK
23 Dec 2020 #3
@rtfm - thank you very message! I really appreciate the advice
rtfm 1 | 44
23 Dec 2020 #4
No problem. Keep us posted on your progress! One other thing i probably should have mentioned is health care for my wife relies on my S1 as she is not working and I am. Without the s1 i can buy health insurance to meet the visa requirements but she would have to register as unemployed to get state health care as she cannot buy the same insurance.

As I should qualify for an S1 I have been told that neither myself or my wife can make voluntary nfz contributions and pay for health care that way.

It's all very odd. It means I have temporary basic health insurance to cover my residence requirements while I wait for my s1 and my wife is uninsured even though she is a Polish national.
rtfm 1 | 44
15 Jan 2021 #5
Hey OJK. So the HMRC finally wrote back to say I need to write to ZUS who will write to HMRC who will write to me and maybe send me an S1.

Well, I say they wrote back but I mean they
finally confirmed via a telephone call. The actual letter is still in the post and expected to take 3 weeks to arrive!

Crazy situation
eggzenbeanz - | 4
26 Jan 2021 #6
Hello,

I am in a similar situation. Arrived in PL on January 22nd 2021. My wife is a Polish national and I am British working for a UK based company. They agreed for me to work remotely from Poland, but now seem to be worrying about tax and getting me to be a contractor. Which I do not want to do for job security reasons.

From what I can see, there isn't an issue as they just list me as no longer residing in the UK via P85? I would still pay UK income tax etc. Looking at the HMRC guide the double taxation treaty doesn't apply to personal incomes so potentially I would be taxed twice. Looks as if I can claim the UK portion back.

What was your experience with your employer @rtfm - What did they do to still have you on the PAYE books, but allow you to work from PL? I'm happy to jump through hoops etc so long as I can remain employed with my company rather than go contractor.

cheers
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
26 Jan 2021 #7
Generally speaking, you can't stay on the PAYE books while living in PL. They'll have to open a branch company and pay you through that, which I assume they won't do. In terms of taxation, you'll get a tax credit for any tax paid to the UK government while being tax resident in PL.

BTW, as you've arrived now, you legally can't work for the UK company until you obtain a residence permit. As it stands, you're breaking the law by working illegally in PL. They can and will check this - be warned, particularly of jealous family members who might not be too happy about you getting a UK income while living here.
eggzenbeanz - | 4
26 Jan 2021 #8
@delphiandomine

Yikes! Thanks for the info. I'll have to sort that out pretty quickly. My wife hasn't lived here for 10 years so is off the system effectively. We'll have to get registered pretty quickly
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
26 Jan 2021 #9
I'll have to sort that out pretty quickly.

Which province are you in? Some of them have disastrous waiting times for residence permits - which can be an additional problem.

Either way, get your application in this week - the sooner, the better.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
26 Jan 2021 #11
One of the better ones. Lower Silesia is a total disaster in comparison.

Anyway, the biggest issue for you is the legal work - to explain, the 90 day Schengen visa waiver allows you to do business, but not to work here. For that reason, you might be forced into being a contractor - you'll be in the non-EU queue for residence permits, so you'll have to wait at least 2-3 months to get it. Until you get it, you can't work - even remotely.
eggzenbeanz - | 4
27 Jan 2021 #12
@delphiandomine

Oh my god! This is bad!


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