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Can I find a non-corporate job in Poland?


Jojo1
28 Apr 2020 #1
Hi all, I love Poland and I've been trying to apply for a job there. However I'm not impressed with the job market. The companies are wow (Shell, JC, Accenture etc.) but they're all entry level monotone, repetitive, tedious corporate jobs, the likes Office Space makes fun of and those called "Bullshit Jobs" by David Graeber in his eponymous book. Accounting, data processing, customer care, phone sales etc. They don't really lead to a good career (a call center manager is seen not as a true professional outside of outsourcing) and frankly they don't pay that well if you're not in IT.

So I would like to ask can one live & pay rent/utilities in Poland with *selling cars* in an auto dealership for a living?
And what about the performing arts (I'm a singer/actor/dancer)? I know for dancing Polish language is not needed so much except for basic words.
jon357 63 | 15,212
28 Apr 2020 #2
Hi, I think you posted before under another user name. The guy fron Serbia, right?

*selling cars* ,,,
And what about the performing arts (I'm a singer/actor/dancer)?

The few used car dealerships tend to be family businesses; the used car market here is surprisingly small. Performing arts? It's possible, however as ever, 90% of the work goes to 10% of those chasing it, and 10% of the work goes to 90% of those chasing it. That is an optimistic estimate.
OP Jojo1
29 Apr 2020 #3
Thanks! I didn't mean just used cars but new cars are even better to work with e.g. working at a Citroen dealership. I have such experience from my country. I do realize I need to learn the local language so I can sell there of course (most jobs I would like doing require local language skills). I could do a call center job until I learn Polish good enough and secure a job in Academia, car sales or the performing arts. But I'll prefer a part-time one (just not worth it investing 8 hrs at a dead end job).
Zlatko
3 Aug 2020 #4
Merged:

Well-paying non corporate jobs in Poland?



What are some well-paid jobs in Poland outside of engineering/finance/banking/IT?
Are there some that one can practice with just an associate degree or a 4 year one? I know nurses get paid a low salary. So what's left?

I'm really not a good fit fir working administrative jobs in a corporate office so I want to know how can I make a good living in alternative (and legal!) ways there. I need to use my body or hands but I'm too skinny for most menial/blue-collar trades. I'm good at councelling and performing arts. Too old to study for a dentist at 32...not sure if Dietitians or Physical Therapists are paid there either. As an ex commie country I imagine healthcare workers in Poland are paid bad except dentists...I feel weird around small children so I can only teach high school ones but I don't have a teaching degree.
pawian 173 | 12,797
3 Aug 2020 #5
In that case, how about running your own business? You could have a food truck with some Bulgarian delicatessen.
Zlatko
4 Aug 2020 #6
I hate sales and servicing ppl so it will get old fast. I hate working with clients. The only way I see not offensive to serve others is healing them (medicine) or, better yet - entertaining them with art (acting, singing).
pawian 173 | 12,797
4 Aug 2020 #7
haa, entertainer. You can become a busker in a posh Old Town where many tourists come. But now they don`t in fear of the virus so you will have to wait two or three years. But in the meantime, you can practise the instrument.
cms neuf - | 1,762
4 Aug 2020 #8
Zlatko dude I have the feeling you will still be posting here in 10 years time asking how deep the lakes are and what flavor of Oreo cookies we have.

Perfect jobs don't really exist unless you have the footwork of Hristo Stoychkov. Understand that you don't want a corpo job but that reduces your options by 80 percent and if you don't want a services job then that reduces the pool by another big slice
pawian 173 | 12,797
4 Aug 2020 #9
Cms, why are you discouraging members? We need everybody, also hesitating guys.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,953
4 Aug 2020 #10
I'm really not a good fit fir working

You sound perfect for Poland, you can do pretty much whatever you want, look I need a gardener and handyman , no one wants to work here for 20zl net per hour (good wage)..
Poloniusz 2 | 63
4 Aug 2020 #11
We need everybody

There are well over 7 billion people on the planet. There isn't enough room in Poland unless something like this is your plan:


Dirk diggler 9 | 4,592
4 Aug 2020 #12
What are some well-paid jobs in Poland outside of engineering/finance/banking/IT?

Basically none. And only some healthcare workers make good money mostly owners and partners of busy private practices.

Why don't you try opening up your own business?

Also, selling cars can be profitable but unless you can price a cars value just by looking at it and knowing how much it costs to fix different things on various cars you'll lose a lot of money. I flip a few cars every year mainly to have a different car every few months and make some extra cash, but my first few trades were definitely losses. I wouldn't take a job at a dealership though especially not in Poland and not now.

This isn't Germanistan or the United Kaliphate where you can sit on your ass all the time and the government will provide for your every need. In Poland you have to work to survive, no one's just going to give it to you.
pawian 173 | 12,797
4 Aug 2020 #13
There isn't enough room in Poland

So we will chose the blackest ones and conjugate them with the whitest partners and wait for the outcome. Amazing experiment! Whad ya think?

In Poland you have to work to survive, no one's just going to give it to you.

PiS think otherwise.
Poloniusz 2 | 63
4 Aug 2020 #14
we will chose the blackest ones and conjugate them with the whitest partners and wait for the outcome.

By all means.



Whad ya think?

Poland's current rabbihood is definitely a non-corporate job in need of some diversity, wouldn't you say?
pawian 173 | 12,797
4 Aug 2020 #15
Whad ya think?

Do you really have to put Jews everywhere? It is an OBSESSION!!!
Zlatko
4 Aug 2020 #16
But I thought Poland was developing well?! A wealthy country is one where medical staff is valued and well compensated. An even more developped society is where even singers can make a living (e.g. Sweden paying subsidies for singers to create music).What about hospital administrators then? They make good money in the USA and I will be surrounded with smart people unlike in a multinational company...
Poloniusz 2 | 63
4 Aug 2020 #17
It is an OBSESSION!!!

You said everyone is needed.

I rightly pointed out there isn't enough room. There aren't enough jobs for everyone either and the quality of life would deteriorate as the population rises.

You for some reason began talking about race in terms of black and white only.

Are you saying certain non-corporate jobs in Poland should be off limits to everyone except your preferred chosen few?
Zlatko
4 Aug 2020 #18
I mean a hospital/medical centre is kinda like a corporation except you get a room with fewer people, not a huge open office.
pawian 173 | 12,797
4 Aug 2020 #19
Are you saying certain non-corporate jobs in Poland should be off limits

Are you saying your anti-Polonism blinds you so much that you seem to cease to be able to grasp the correct meanings in messages??? hahahaha
Zlatko
4 Aug 2020 #20
And yes, sorry to say it but most ppl working in multinational corporations and in outsorcing are not a very nice bunch to be around.
pawian 173 | 12,797
4 Aug 2020 #21
The same with medical care jobs - people are stressed and burdened with duties so don`t expect family atmosphere.
Zlatko
6 Aug 2020 #22
So what about physical therapists/physiotherapy?

I've finally decided on lhysiotherapy as it has more biology courses, it's not chemistry-heavy like MDs, pharmacy and nursing. It also ties in with my gymnast experience and background in hip hop dance. Is it better than Dietology?
pawian 173 | 12,797
6 Aug 2020 #23
Physiotherapy is OK but don`t expect gigantic wages coz you will have to compete with other guys - this job is quite popular. Medium salary is 3400 brutto.

Medium salary is 3400 brutto.

Oops, sometimes I don`t think - gross or pretax, of course.
Zlatko
8 Aug 2020 #24
And what about psychologists? I had a coworker at Bratislava from Poland working customer care with a Psychology degree so Poland maybe is like other former socialist countries where this degree doesn't lead to good pay? I think they're paid well in Western Europe, more that physiotherapists even.
pawian 173 | 12,797
8 Aug 2020 #25
Psychologist`s pay is average unless you are very good at solving people`s problems so you have a a lot of clients and usually it involves running your own business.
Cargo pants 2 | 560
8 Aug 2020 #26
Psychologist`s pay is average unless you are very good at solving people`s problems

OR have a friend in the court system and friendly judges in the area one practices to grab the court ordered psycho help business in groups.
Zlatko
8 Aug 2020 #27
Or marry a dentist woman and be a stay at home dad working part time WFH jobs?
pawian 173 | 12,797
8 Aug 2020 #28
Or marry a dentist woman

Possible. But to do it, you need to look like him. Female dentists like dark guys.



Zlatko
12 Sep 2020 #29
Ok I've tried giving psychologic advice on Viber maybe for the maybe 5th time... each time I face people that would like to hear what they like to hear, many want a fortune teller/psychic instead telling them the future and when I give them my bank account number for the (reasonable) bill they suddenly go rude and mad at me, so they assume Viber advice must be free. But it takes my time and leaves me feeling trashed by their constant negativity and complaints.

Nope, I now realize I'm not suited for any service job. Maybe I can try becoming a veterinarian or dental technician instead? It's easier to deal with animals and I bet most of them don't complain much. Are those two paid well in Poland? Of course I love art and there the crowd is down and you're on the scene so complainers and misers could only post bad things about you online, but they never spill it on you directly.
pawian 173 | 12,797
12 Sep 2020 #30
Ok I've tried giving psychologic advice on Viber

Hmm do you mean you played an amateur online counsellor ???

Maybe I can try becoming a veterinarian or dental technician instead?

Yes, they do, especially in cities where people keep a lot of pets. Two years ago one of our elder cats got dehydrated during summer and the treatment (examination, mediacation and two injections) cost us about 600 PLN.


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