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Moving To Michigan - Help Required


Marlenka 1 | 2
26 Sep 2023 #1
Hi

I'm a Polish women currently living in the UK with my British husband and two children, and soon we will move to Michigan to start new work.

Are there any people on this forum either living in Michigan or who know Michigan well who would be able to help us with some questions about life in Michigan, and which place to live may suit our needs please?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Be great if anybody willing to help could make themselves know so we could PM you.
Cargo pants 3 | 1,503
26 Sep 2023 #2
LOL Michigan poster is MIA.
LOL Good try though:)
OP Marlenka 1 | 2
26 Sep 2023 #3
Hi, sorry I'm lost by the reply, can you explain please?)
Alien 21 | 5,145
26 Sep 2023 #4
sorry I'm lost

Nothing new, only lost souls here.
jon357 74 | 22,192
26 Sep 2023 #5
Are there any people on this forum either living in Michigan or who know Michigan

There are a couple of regular posters who are in or are from Michigan however one has been away for a while for personal reasons.

As far as I know there are community organisations there for people of Polish descent.
OP Marlenka 1 | 2
26 Sep 2023 #6
Thanks for the reply, hopefully some of the Michigan posters will make a comeback soon 👍🏻
Lyzko 45 | 9,459
26 Sep 2023 #7
Marlenka,
Get ready though for some culture shock!
G.B. Shaw once quipped that the US and the UK are two countries separated by the same languageLOL
I actually know of someone who moved from the Midwest to Poland some years back and found the cultural differences far less than she thought, perhaps because more random Poles are somewhat more familiar with US popular culture through the Internet, social media and so forth, than the average American would be with Polish pop culture. This individual is not of Polish descent, by the way.
mafketis 37 | 10,957
26 Sep 2023 #8
hopefully some of the Michigan posters

Hopefully not.... (long story... don't ask).

Good luck!
Joker 3 | 2,352
27 Sep 2023 #9
Michigan to start new work

The western side of Michigan is the best place to live, particularly along Lake Michigan. I wouldnt move anywhere near Detroit or Flint for sure. The upper north peninsula is awesome with lots of scenic beauty, but I dont think there are many jobs up that way, mostly retired and tourists.

LOL Good try though:)

LOL... They are trying to lure him back....
Novichok 4 | 8,253
27 Sep 2023 #10
I really like Michigan by the lake. A lot of good memories...
Joker 3 | 2,352
27 Sep 2023 #11
I really like Michigan by the lake

You can always go to Lake Michigan in Chicago? Come on, lets go to 67th street beach..lol
Novichok 4 | 8,253
27 Sep 2023 #12
As soon as I get my full-auto...
Cargo pants 3 | 1,503
27 Sep 2023 #13
LOL... They are trying to lure him back....

Yeah lol,theyve tried that with me plenty of times by posting as a woman for some tenant or real estate problem then sending me PMs.LOL one time I remember they came as "Stokrotka" or something and Pmd me asking how to find Mafia guys to push out a tenant in Poland,Seriously lol.
Lyzko 45 | 9,459
27 Sep 2023 #14
Flint has been having her problems over the past thirty odd years.
Novichok 4 | 8,253
27 Sep 2023 #15
Who the hell is Ms. Flint? Or is it a transgender "woman"?
Lyzko 45 | 9,459
27 Sep 2023 #16
Quit playing dumb. Or perhaps you are not playing after all
jon357 74 | 22,192
27 Sep 2023 #17
Flint

I'd not drink the tap water there.
Novichok 4 | 8,253
27 Sep 2023 #18
Hey, stupid, a city is "it", not a woman. Idiot.
mafketis 37 | 10,957
27 Sep 2023 #19
a city is "it", not a woman. Idiot

Someone flunked 'literature'...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personification

It's not at all unusual to refer to cities as 'she' (also countries)

I can sound a little twee (your vocabulary assignment for the day - write three sentences using it in a way that shows you understand what it means).

But still, within the bounds of normal usage.
Atch 22 | 4,150
28 Sep 2023 #20
twee

I haven't heard that word for a long time! Nice :) Yes, referring to places, and especially countries as 'she' is a well established practice, boats/ships too - and cars. It is becoming a somewhat vintage nowadays, with the exception of ships. I don't think that will ever change. Hope not.
Novichok 4 | 8,253
28 Sep 2023 #21
as 'she' is a well established practice

Let me guess...Since it's stupid, it originated in England. Am I right?

In my misogynistic brain, calling both a rusty piece of junk and a woman in it "she" is insulting to the woman. How about a toilet as he..."Go back and flush him!"

You forgot a hyphen.

somewhat vintage

Like horses in New York or ink-dipped feather pens.
mafketis 37 | 10,957
28 Sep 2023 #22
Since it's stupid, it originated in England. Am I right?

Actually.... it comes from tripartization of Indo-European....

Massive simplification: Proto-Indo-European (ancestor of both English and Polish) had different numbers of genders (noun classes) at different times

basically the oldest seems to have been a two-noun class system (common-animate, inanimate-neuter).

Later a third class evolved (the basis of the feminine gender in daughter languages) and this included, among other things intangible and/or abstract things (which is why abstract nouns are almost always feminine across the language family).

This tended to be unstable and different languages either collapsed this back into a dual system (Latinate, Celtic I think, Armenian (which maybe never had the third gender, Indic...) while others preserrved a tripartite divison (Slavic, Greek, Albanian, Germanic though some of them recollapsed into a two-class system)

Polish and some other slavic languages seem to be splitting the masculine gender in two: animate and inanimate (the latter of which will eventually probably be absorbed back into the neuter gender but.... that's a topic for another day.

The idea of noun-classes is so strong in Indo-European languages that some languages that seem to lose all distinctions end up acquiring new divisions. The division into countable (tree, car, child) and non-countable (water, information, love) of modern English is basically a reconstitution of gender/noun-classes. this parallels some dialects of Danish in which the gender system (common vs neuter has developed into a count-common and non-count-neuter distinction).

So.... remember when I said that nouns referring to intangible and/or abstract things went into the noun-class usually referred to as 'feminine'?

Remember when I referred to 'daughter' languages?

Referring to a ship or country as 'she' is a throwback to that, you're not referencing anything physical but an emotion related to it or the idea or spirit of it.

Clear?
Atch 22 | 4,150
28 Sep 2023 #23
You forgot a hyphen.

I do tend to play fast and loose with hyphens, largely because they are mostly optional. Well established is generally hyphenated when it precedes a noun, otherwise not. So yes, I acknowledge that I ought to have hyphenated it.

ink-dipped feather pens.

You mean quills.
Novichok 4 | 8,253
28 Sep 2023 #24
There is no such thing as "well practice". There is such thing as "well-established practice". Duh!
jon357 74 | 22,192
28 Sep 2023 #25
well-established

The hyphen is optional, unnecessary and becoming archaic.

Rather like you.
Atch 22 | 4,150
28 Sep 2023 #26
There is such thing

Such 'a' thing - and don't pretend it was a typo.

The hyphen is optional, unnecessary and becoming archaic.

Yes, there has always been debate in the literary/linguistic community as to the use of hyphens. The consensus these days is towards using them sparingly. The general rule is when in doubt, leave them out!
Novichok 4 | 8,253
28 Sep 2023 #27
Such 'a' thing - and don't pretend it was a typo.

I used "such a (noun) many times. You are free to see for yourself. Hence, a typo.
I appreciate your comment. It will make me slow down and pay better attention.


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