How long would it take for an English style restaurant in Poland to go bust?

Really? In this building we have three guys coming round every day with sandwiches and one guy with sushi.

Lucky bugger!

i've seen the same.

if bolle doesn't mind. it's midway between the hala targowa and galeria.... on a corner.


and that's why u should take their customers. they are located just off plac grunwaldzki. an area full of students

I,ve been to quite a few festivals, concerts etc, and noticed bread and smalec along with a soured gherkin is a good hit.

From my point of view, it will be better if you would consider:
1) Who will be your objective people? Businessmen, students, tourists, etc?
2) The style of your resaurant?
3) Your objective people will lead the the pricing, I think. And how about the gross margin you would like to get?
4) Your objective people also will lead the location. How many your objective people will pass by your restaurant?

agreed but in order to do that I need to find what is the most in demand over there who spends the money where and why

Irisz
Maybe you need to learn the difference between target and objective (when dealing with customers). I am no grammar nazi but your entire post mad no sense. It took me 10 minutes to decifer it.

I believe a big hit would be, "salads, soups and wraps", made from fresh local produce, open kitchen, a few tables and a takeaway hatch, here is a company I know in Amsterdam, its all funky soups that you would normally only get in specialist restaurants.

The Poles have been brought up on soups and if you package it in a similar manner to the coffee chic, it will sell.

Summer, heavy on salad and wraps
Winter, heavy on soups and wraps

Just curious, a question for the group: when in England I love English pubs and yes, pub food. Would that work in Poland?

Depends what you mean I suppose. Doesn't tend to be too much variety in what I would regard as pub food. Also, the term tends to be used as a derogatory one e.g. criticising the standards of a restaurant as bing "like pub food".

Among English speakers, somewhere advertising Pub Food woyuldn't exactly excite them.

Not in my opinion British pub food is usually great, a wide selection of traditional English. The big chains have pretty much sown up the market - regardless they knock out good quality food.


Thats just the grill menu from brewersfayre.co.uk/food/details/?id=1

Sure, I get you - but it doesn't change the fact that the term is often used dismissively, regardless of the actual quality - which may be good, bad or indifferent.

That's my impression anyway.

Marketing-wise, based on the term alone, I wouldn't be so sure that pub food is the way to go.

Keep posting your thoughts. I'd be curious to people's opinions. I've moved to Wroclaw recently and I was in the restaurant biz for many years in the US. I'm always interested in comments on the local food scene. Good luck and bon appetit.

as an Englishman (although half French) who spends about 6 months a year in Wroclaw, I have noticed that Poles are fairly conservative about food, but when you cook for them and they try something good they like it..so getting them through the door would be the big challenge. But generally avoid any connection with English about food, it has only bad vibes here unless you are selling tea. But seems there would be room here for some new places if they have an edge and something to get people through the door.

Sushi? Just goes to show that Warsaw is years ahead of the rest of the country ;)

There are loadsa place to eat Sushi in Gdansk, Gdynia and Sopot

You can not think with an Irish/English head, Starbucks have recently arrived in Poland, so it should enlighten you, about your future market. Sh1te UK is trendy in PL.

From an English persons perspective (tourist who has visited Wraclaw) - its got some excellent little restaurants, for me it knocked spots off Krakow (no offence to Krakow) - so you have some very tough competition. Im not one to go for the whole "lets find somewhere English to eat" but there are those that do..Im sure ex-pats would love it..nothing like a taste of home..

I think this is a good idea:


But remember English speaking might mean they're from Asia so stew and dumplings and shephards pie on the menu might not go down so well...

I think to get locals in you have to be competitive (no different to the UK these days) and have an edge of what's already there...small menu with a mix of Polish traditional and English traditional dishes....perfect!


You mean cheap "barely legal burgers" that only people who've had at least 10 pints will drink?

You dont drink a cheeseburger!!

No, you obviously have never eaten a typical Polish cheeseburger Shelley, although sounds like you have eaten plenty of British ones after 10 pints.

Good burger vans do a storming trade in the UK.

Same here, most of them absolutely dire. I absolutely hate this Polish obsession with "atmosphere" - get the food right first!

But I've never seen anyone selling sushi in office buildings :)