Immgration to UK. A success?

Krynski - | 82

28 Apr 2011 #61

how can it be racist to say there are many poles in the uk committing crime? i know this paper is dubious but the source is not!!

--- Who has said it's racist to say there are many Poles in UK commiting crime?

Why am I saying you're a racist Polonophobe, do you know?

Well, if the paper is dubious don't you think the information in it is also dubious?

For instance, is it the Poles who commit most crime in UK, or is it other nationalities? Does your "dubious newspaper", on which you nonetheless rely so surely, carry out a frantic hate crusade against those other non-Polish criminals just as well? Do you know who and what I mean, butthead?

:)

isthatu2 4 | 2,694

28 Apr 2011 #62

Surely you aren't suggesting their names should be kept secret?

tbh,yes,if found guilty in a court of law then name and shame,untill then the names are not in the public interest in most cases as the line of "other victims then come forward" doesnt often wash with crimes like this as,well, muggers and burglers rarely tell their victims their names.

What specifically have I been allegedly caught out on?

the same crap you tried four years ago puzzie...........you were shown to be a fool then,you are showing yourself to be a fool still.

To all newbies, dont bother trying logic with krynski nee puzzler, anything not written by a Pole wrapped in a flag is polonophobic lies................

POLENGGGs 2 | 150

28 Apr 2011 #63

well, I says wot u on 'bout... these two gits are both from that shite 'ole of a place called Wolverhampton, en the otha un is a Brummie Enoich ... They only got Polish names.

Unless you a member of the BNP whats it to you if they have Balkan names, Swiss names or Sicilian.

as for Hyacinth Bucket,,,, remember ... Onlslow is her cousin, and his surname is also Bucket'

cnut

28 Apr 2011 #64

they are polish migrants who needed an interpreter, guess who pays for that?

rozumiemnic 8 | 3,854

28 Apr 2011 #65

So what? It gives the interpreters extra work and contributes further to the economy doesn't it? If you are moaning that it's the great British taxpayer who foots the bill, then that obviously isn't you or you wouldn't be posting half literate rubbish at 15.12 in the afternoon.

( and before anyone starts, I have an excuse, I work from home..:)

cnut

28 Apr 2011 #66

holidays!!!!!!! contribute? heres an example of contribution. polish patients at our local hospital...many spoke perfect english yet were caught splitting the fee with the interpreter in the car park. however, its a contribution i suppose to get paid for interpreting in the uk when its not a scam dodging tax, etc.....like the arrogant pole i met who was often called to interpret at the local police station when his compatriots raped or attacked innocents here. blood economy?

rozumiemnic 8 | 3,854

28 Apr 2011 #67

no links? no references?
nothing to back up your opinions?
I know that every nation has its scum but I still, these are not the normal average hard working people you are talking about, and the latter are certainly in the majority. It just doesn't suit people to talk about that.

Besides Britain has exported plenty of scum too....that's just how it is.... when you become dictator of the New Europe you can confiscate everyones passports, until then why not just try to maintain a sense of proportion?

Havok 10 | 903

28 Apr 2011 #68

as for Hyacinth Bucket,,,, remember ... Onlslow is her cousin, and his surname is also Bucket'

You're so ignorant, it's pronounced bokeh.

blood economy?

That comes from someone living in the "British Empire". Lol, Hey did you know that your whole country was built on the backs of innocent colonist with your royal family in charge.

I have solution for you:

Ship all those Polish criminals to Australia. That should do it.

ukpolska

28 Apr 2011 #69

holidays!!!!!!! contribute?

**** off and read the Daily Mail for more bigoted crap... You are an insult to my Britishness and should stick to your council house bullshit.

What have you ever done to provide for our economy very little I suspect seeing as you are most likely unemployed and living on the bleating bullshit from the BNP and expecting it all to be given to you on a plate.

Well life doesn't work like that fella, as you reap the rewords in life by hard work, something I fear you know very little about!!!!

Harry

28 Apr 2011 #70

Ship all those Polish criminals to Australia.

Tried that after WWII.

z_darius 14 | 3,964

28 Apr 2011 #71

Not at all. Shipping convicts to Australia ceased well before WW2. You must be confusing them with British children, aka Home Children. Those were sent to Australia until 1970's. Or perhaps poverty in UK is considered a crime, that is.

Child emigration was suspended for economic reasons during the Great Depression of the 1930s but was not completely terminated until the 1970s.

As they were compulsorily shipped out of Britain, many of the children were deceived into believing their parents were dead, and that a more abundant life awaited them. While many children were welcomed into loving homes, some were exploited as cheap agricultural labour. Many of the home children were denied proper shelter and education and were often not allowed to socialize with native children. It was common for home children to run away, sometimes finding a caring family or better working conditions.

Harry

28 Apr 2011 #72

Not at all. Shipping convicts to Australia ceased well before WW2. You must be confusing them with British children, aka Home Children. Those were sent to Australia until 1970's

Nope, I was referring to some of the Polish army who declined the free ticket home after the end of the war but also declined to accept the responsibilities which came with living in Britain. My understanding is that some of them were given extensive information about how wonderful the colonies were.

Krynski - | 82

28 Apr 2011 #73

**** off and read the Daily Mail for more bigoted crap...

Well, ukpolska seems to be an honest Brit guy - and there are scores of British like him, which I actually willingly acknowledge. But that doesn't change the fact that there are also scores of rabid Polonophobes there, like the brutes of "lebowski" and "cnut's" ilk. And now, after both Milliband and Cameron also have made Polonophobic remarks - characteristically, these remarks closely resemble the stuff about the Poles the Daily Mail, etc. psychopaths have been peddling - one can rightly expect there may appear even more Polonophobes in Britain. The onslaught of the media psychopaths in Britain against the Poles has been enormous, but almost nobody there - and certainly no really prominent figure - has defended the Poles and condemned the hate propaganda against them.

z_darius 14 | 3,964

28 Apr 2011 #74

Nope, I was referring to some of the Polish army who declined the free ticket home after the end of the war but also declined to accept the responsibilities which came with living in Britain.

So did they get burdened with civil or criminal charges, or were they simply inconvenient now that they completed what the UK needed them for?

Krynski - | 82

28 Apr 2011 #75

Nope, I was referring to some of the Polish army who declined the free ticket

--- Do you mean after WWII the British allegedly shipped some criminals, who were members of the Polish Armed Forces in Britain, over to Australia? Aren't you lying again, Harry? I'm asking due to the fact that you are a rabid zionist full of psychotic hatred toward the Poles, and you habitually spread your Polonophobic hate propaganda in this forum. Harry, aren't you scared that even your own G--d can eventually punish you hard for your savagery?

:)

Harry

28 Apr 2011 #76

were they simply inconvenient now that they completed what the UK needed them for?

So inconvenient that more than half of the entire Polish army in the west were giving British passports. Funny how you plastic Poles so often overlook that fact.

Piaski01

29 Apr 2011 #77

hehehe oh dear. Intellectual debate supported by sources such as Daily Mail and The Sun.

z_darius 14 | 3,964

29 Apr 2011 #78

So inconvenient that more than half of the entire Polish army in the west were giving British passports.

So the Polish army was authorized to give British passports?
Interesting.

ShawnH 8 | 1,491

29 Apr 2011 #79

Come on Dariusz. You know the answer will be "no, they were all a bunch of scam artists selling fake passports out of the boot of their car"

z_darius 14 | 3,964

29 Apr 2011 #80

I put my bet on the few acres of Czekoslovakia that Poland took in 1938 after the Brits broke their deals and gave the couuntry to Hitler on a silver platter.

ShawnH 8 | 1,491

29 Apr 2011 #81

I put my bet on the few acres of Czekoslovakia

You are probably right. And he will get lots of "back up" with his statement, I am sure.

Harry

29 Apr 2011 #82

So the Polish army was authorized to give British passports?

Why not have a look at the 1947 Polish Resettlement Act? The wikipedia article about it is of course a masterpiece of Polish whining but the act itself offered British citizenship to more than 200,000 Poles.

Alternatively just keep on with your lies about Britain kicking the Poles out.

I put my bet on the few acres of Czekoslovakia that Poland took in 1938 after the Brits broke their deals and gave the couuntry to Hitler on a silver platter.

Could you tell us which 'deals' Britain broke at Munich in 1938? I somehow very much doubt you can. I, on the other hand, can very easily name the international treaty which Poland broke by invading Czechoslovakia along with the Nazis.

isthatu2 4 | 2,694

29 Apr 2011 #83

You're so ignorant, it's pronounced bokeh.

Its Bouquet actually,but kudos anyway :)

z_darius 14 | 3,964

29 Apr 2011 #84

So they offered British citizenship to 200,000 Polish criminals and that's why they had to kick out thousands of British kids to make the room?

Could you tell us which 'deals' Britain broke at Munich in 1938?

If you can find out about a few acres Poland took in 1938 then I'm sure you'll be able to find out what Czechs mean by thheir own term zrada Západu.

isthatu2 4 | 2,694

29 Apr 2011 #85

1947 Polish Resettlement Act

Oh dear. Talk about over egging the term "instrumental".............reading that one wonders what all the British,Austrailian,New Zealand,South African,Free French,Indian,East African soldiers were doing in North Africa and Italy....presumably sitting around watching a handfull of Poles sweeping all axis forces into the med......................

As much as I admire the Polish contribution to world war two I dont see where blowing things up to a silly level helps anyone...."instrumental at the battle of Arnhem..." ,er,if by that they mean no Pole got anywhere near Arnhem and only a handfull managed to cross the rhine into a doomed bridgehead,fine.......

Monia

30 Apr 2011 #86

However the Polonophobia in a given country seems to start with the media hate-propaganda.

ashgate.com/pdf/SamplePages/Polish_Migration_to_the_UK_in_the_New_European_Union_Intro.pdf

For example, in February 2008 the FPGB claimed that the Daily Mail' paragraphs contain emotional phrases likely to evolve a resentful response from a reader and the Mail has managed consistently to eke out the negative story where possible. We even have an example earlier this
month where a Daily Mail feature writer was offering £100 'for anonymous
horror stories of people who have employed Eastern European staff, only for
them to steal from them, disappear, or have lied about their resident status'.
Coupled with other press coverage which notes the hostility directed at new East
European migrants, these issues raise important questions about how well received this new migration has really been. The presumed cultural capital that comes with being white and Christian has not prevented discrimination and exploitation - indeed, the work of US ethnic historians should remind us that 'whiteness' is a mutable category, and that newcomers, regardless of their physical colour, are notusually readily accepted as 'white', and all that this label entails (see Ignatieve 1995; Roediger 2005)

After becoming acquainted with such policy ( just one example ) , carried out by the UK press I don`t wonder why an average person has got so much hostility towards Polish nation , including some PF posters .

Harry

30 Apr 2011 #87

It's the Mail, they do shiit like that. I was once contacted by a Mail features writer who wanted to prove that Poles could drive to UK, get lots of speeding tickets, not pay them and suffer no ill effects. To prove that she wanted to pay a Pole to go to the UK and commit the crimes in question. However the tables were turned on her and the story about how a Mail journalist commissioned crime was published in a national magazine.

isthatu2 4 | 2,694

1 May 2011 #88

. The presumed cultural capital that comes with being white and Christian has not prevented discrimination and exploitation

Wow,talk about a backward,bigoted view of the world this implies. Did Poles really come to the UK thinking themselves superior beings just down to being white and Christian? Surely not,even though from some posters here I could believe it I cant really believe that most of you were that arrogant and rascist. This implies you expected to get to the front of some imagined que ,ahead of unworthy non whites,even if those non whites are fourth generation Brits..tsk tsk.

Monia

1 May 2011 #89

English newspapers and some British are bigoted and backward spreading false , unverified informations about other European people describing them as having strange customs .

I cant really believe that most of you were that arrogant and rascist.

Who is talking that , a member of the most bigoted nation in the world .

spinnerdcc - | 6

1 May 2011 #90

Just in yyy.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13251614
change the yyy to www

The National Institute for Economic and Social Research says 700,000 people moved to the UK after their former communist homelands joined the EU.

It believes they drove up British GDP by 0.38% in the years to 2009, the equivalent of £4.91bn.

The report says countries which imposed restrictions on eastern workers saw growth reduced because of this.

Only the UK, Ireland and Sweden allowed free access from the start to workers from the eight 2004 accession countries, which included Poland, Latvia and Hungary.

The last EU members to keep restrictions - Germany and Austria - lift them on Sunday.