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Polish Family stabbed to death in St Helier.


delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
24 Aug 2012 #31
Worth pointing out that the "guilty" for manslaugher with diminished responsibility means that he'll be spending many, many years in a secure hospital with no real prospect of release.
jon357 74 | 22,060
24 Aug 2012 #32
From the evidence he does not look like a safe person to be on the streets.
Vincent 9 | 886
24 Aug 2012 #33
Some of these judges decisions never fail to amaze me. If that's not multiple murders, then I don't know what is?
LwowskaKrakow 28 | 431
24 Aug 2012 #34
When they want to get rid of someone( who si usually a woman or a girl they either accused of betraying them by the way) some murderers say they suddenly "heard voices" can't remember anything due to post traumatic stress or depression.

Reminds me of this mega rich English guy Shrien Dewani fighting extradition to South Africa to "clear his name" in the suspicion he had his bride killed or this other one, Ian griffin who massacred his Polish girlfriend Kinga Legg in Paris where he is finally behind bars.

If Jersey wants to pay for this guy's lunatic asylum, let them pay.I doubt Poland will want him back.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
24 Aug 2012 #35
Some of these judges decisions never fail to amaze me. If that's not multiple murders, then I don't know what is?

It's a peculiarity of English law - he already pled guilty to manslaughter with diminished responsibility, so the judge would have directed the jury to find him not guilty - and so the judge (and jurors - a quirk of Jersey law?) will be able to sentence him to a long, long period inside a hospital. He could easily be there the rest of his life.

When they want to get rid of someone( who si usually a woman or a girl they either accused of betraying them by the way) some murderers say they suddenly "heard voices" can't remember anything due to post traumatic stress or depression.

It doesn't matter - the sentence is the same, if not worse. If he's transferred to Poland (which would seem likely) - then he's going to have a hell of a miserable time inside the psychiatric hospitals.

Just found out - he has been held at Broadmoor (the highest security hospital in the UK) since the time of his arrest, so it's almost certain that he's going to spend a long, long time there.
TommyG 1 | 361
24 Aug 2012 #36
Broadmoor

- its not that bad... just ask Charlie Bronson:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bronson_(prisoner)

At Broadmoor, Bronson attempted to strangle Gordon Robinson to death but was prevented from doing so when the silk tie he was using to garotte him snapped.[37] Following this failure Bronson again became depressed, but found his spirits lifted when Ronnie Kray arranged a visit from boxer Terry Downes.[38] In 1982, he performed his first rooftop protest after escaping to the top of Broadmoor and tearing off roof tiles.[39] Not long after the first incident, he again reached the roof of Broadmoor. He caused £250,000 worth of damage in a three day protest before he was talked down by his family.[40] Following further treatment he took up art, and eventually collected more prison awards than any other inmate for his poems, prose and cartoons.[41] He made a third rooftop protest, this time demanding a prison transfer, but was again talked down.[42] He then started an 18 day long hunger strike, and was eventually granted a transfer to Ashworth Hospital (then known as Park Lane Hospital) in June 1984.[43]

"I'd been certified mad because of my violence. I was still violent - and they were now certifying me sane. Where's the sanity in that? Isn't the system just as crazy?"

It is a mad, mad world in which we live in...
Mister H 11 | 761
1 Sep 2012 #37
Just found out - he has been held at Broadmoor (the highest security hospital in the UK) since the time of his arrest, so it's almost certain that he's going to spend a long, long time there.

Good! I hope he never sees the light of day again, at least not as a free man.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
1 Sep 2012 #38
The real question now is whether they'll deport him to Poland or not - for his sake, he's better off in Broadmoor.
Mister H 11 | 761
1 Sep 2012 #39
Regardless of where he ends up, he is a Polish national and therefore I do think that the Polish government should be stumping up something for his cost of his incarceration.

It's one of many badly thought out scenarious that don't seem to have been properly considered by those that dreamt up the rules of the EU.

Rzeszowski should either be deported to Poland and spend his time in a Polish prison or kept in somewhere like Broadmoor with the Polish government providing the cash.
ZIMMY 6 | 1,601
1 Sep 2012 #40
When they want to get rid of someone( who si usually a woman or a girl they either accused of betraying them by the way) some murderers say they suddenly "heard voices" can't remember anything due to post traumatic stress or depression.

More often than not, men who kill their spouses (and sometimes the kids) do it because they were in the process of divorce or were told by the woman that she wanted a divorce. A woman will also tell her spouse that he "won't see the kids anymore ", etc. At this point the man 'feel's that he has lost everything. If mentally disturbed, he will murder.

There can be no rehabilitation for someone like this. Permanent prison is the only logical treatment. No defense justifies such a horrific crime.


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