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Starting 2024 Visa's will be required to visit Poland from the U.S.A.


johnny reb 50 | 7,431
20 Jul 2023 #1
Another foot in the door to collect a $ tax $ that always starts out low ($8 U.S.) and will increase every year once implemented.
This will include all countries in the E.U. for upstanding American citizens to enter, not just to enter Poland.
The new regulations are called the European Travel Information and Authorization System (ETIAS).
When the system launches in early 2024, it will require all visitors who currently travel to Europe visa-free, such as citizens from the US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, will need to apply for travel authorization and receive approval prior to their departure.

How many extra millions $$$$ will this put in Europe's back pocket from the U.S. alone and for what ?
The bio metric information being collected is already on our passports.
Compare that to America's open borders where anyone can come in for free without a visa or passport.
Feniks
20 Jul 2023 #2
($8 U.S.) and will increase every year once implemented.

You pay that amount and it's valid for 3 years. You want to moan about $8 given the cost of a flight from the US to Europe? It's not going to affect you anyway given that you've never been to Europe and it's doubtful you ever will.

If I came to the US it would cost me $21 for an ESTA, so the US is making money out of tourists too.
Cargo pants 3 | 1,500
20 Jul 2023 #3
@johnny reb
I know cpl of people who will refuse to pay a dime for visa or whatever and plan to go to countries that dont require anything.LOL thx god I will have to pay nothing and spend that 8 bucks on 2 beers lol
Novichok 4 | 8,268
20 Jul 2023 #4
The US should demand a $10,000 bond from Polish "visitors" to assure that they leave as promised, not in five years or never.
Alien 21 | 5,220
20 Jul 2023 #5
demand a $10,000 bond

Or maybe they should pay so much that smart people would even consider staying in the US?
Ironside 51 | 12,473
20 Jul 2023 #6
Good! As far as I know Poles had to pay for american visa or still do...
Lyzko 45 | 9,513
20 Jul 2023 #7
I think it's no more than right.
Lenka 5 | 3,532
20 Jul 2023 #8
@Ironside
Poland is in Visa Waiver Programme now.
OP johnny reb 50 | 7,431
21 Jul 2023 #9
If I came to the US it would cost me $21 for an ESTA,

Stop your moaning as you have spilled more than that on a good night out.
Besides, you have never been to Northern Michigan and it's doubtful you ever will.
Now before you got nasty and personal the topic was about another regulation to vet law abiding citizens to collect their personal information.
So please stay on topic and keep your snide remarks to yourself.
And like I stated, the camel is just getting his nose in the tent, in three years they will add six more personal question and in three more years six more personal questions until eventually only the bootlickers will stoop to them.

it will require all visitors who currently travel to Europe visa-free, such as citizens from the US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand,

How about the dark countries ? Will it apply to them too or only those White countries ?

so the US is making money out of tourists too.

You are the Google queen here so tell us how many people from the U.S. travelled to the E.U. in 2022 and how many Europeans travelled to the U.S. in 2022.

Then we will do the math.
Europe is swarming with American tourists this summer.
I don't see that many Europeans here in the U.S. this summer.
Feniks
21 Jul 2023 #10
the topic was about another regulation to vet law abiding citizens to collect their personal information.

The ETIAS and ESTA systems both collect personal information, including whether a person has a criminal record. Maybe that's why you're worrying. ETIAS, just like the US equivalent, is a visa waiver. It is NOT, as you inaccurately put in your thread title, a visa.

Citizens from most European countries travelling to the US have been having their their personal information checked since 2009 when the US introduced the ESTA system. You're protesting now that Europe is doing the exact same thing your own country does.
Cargo pants 3 | 1,500
21 Jul 2023 #11
ncluding whether a person has a criminal record

As on US Canadian border people from US are not allowed in if they have a DWI charge in the last 10 years or have a domestic violence conviction forget about felony charges,so the EU will also follow the same?I am sure the US govt overlooks misdemeanour convictions of the EU citizens as it does for Canadian citizens.
OP johnny reb 50 | 7,431
21 Jul 2023 #12
Maybe that's why you're worrying.

Why do you project such non sense as you are the one having the meltdown.
I worry about nothing because like you projected again that I have no intentions of coming to the E.U.

It is NOT, as you inaccurately put in your thread title, a visa.

Thank you for correcting me as I don't know what i would do without you. ((the Reb rolls his eyes sarcastically while laughing)
Both are a form of requirements for foreign travel.for over a billion travelers as in Either Ithar.

You're protesting now that Europe is doing the exact same thing your own country does.

That is because Americans always come back home to the Great United States of America while you Polish come to the Great United States of America and never go back home.

We had to make such vetting so we could find you and send you back home to Poland. :-)
So in essence it is just a money maker for the E.U.
And you seemed to skipped over my question of how many American tourists come to the E.U. vs. how may Europeans come to the U.S. each year.
Alien 21 | 5,220
21 Jul 2023 #13
That is because Americans always come back home to the Great United States of America

This is not entirely true. Getting rid of American citizenship is horrendously expensive, for example because of the so called exit tax, and yet the number of resignations is rapidly increasing and now 10 times more Americans are getting rid of their citizenship than 10 years ago.
OP johnny reb 50 | 7,431
21 Jul 2023 #14
This is not entirely true.

Of course it's not as I was being sarcastic for the sake of argument with Paulina.
She does like to knit pick at me so I entertain her with sarcasm.

Getting rid of American citizenship is horrendously expensive,

It would be easier and cheaper just to get citizenship in the E.U. and have dual citizenship.
Portugal has become a hot spot for people looking to quit their jobs and move abroad.
In order to get a Portugal passport, you need to participate in the Golden Visa program, which has several ways to qualify, including making a donation to Portuguese art and culture, investing in a business, starting a business or by buying real estate.

Doing that, one could enter Poland or the E.U.without an ETIAS.
Without getting snarky....Am I wrong Feniks ? lol
Ironside 51 | 12,473
21 Jul 2023 #15
while you Polish come to the Great United States of America and never go back home.

you don't need a visa for that. You can just walk in from the south into USA, save money on a visa.
Novichok 4 | 8,268
21 Jul 2023 #16
10 times more Americans are getting rid of their citizenship than 10 years ago.

Ten years ago America was sane. OK...saner...
OP johnny reb 50 | 7,431
21 Jul 2023 #17
You can just walk in from the south into USA, save money on a visa.

Not if you are White I.S.
They pick you out of the crowd immediately.
Now I must insist you guys stay On - Topic before you guys get another of my threads closed.
Feniks
21 Jul 2023 #18
so the EU will also follow the same?

From what I was reading, the US and Canadian systems policies are stricter regarding an applicant's criminal history. How strict the EU system is will depend on the seriousness of any crime committed and how long ago it was. ETIAS applications are checked through Interpol and Europol before being approved. Current health status and whether a person has visited any war or conflict zones will be checked:

etias.com/articles/applying-for-etias-with-a-criminal-record

General Information about ETIAS:

etias.com/what-is-etias

Both are a form of requirements for foreign travel.

They are but there is an important difference. ETIAS is for travellers who can currently travel to Europe without a visa. From 2024, those who are not eligible for ETIAS must hold a Schengen Visa instead.
Lyzko 45 | 9,513
21 Jul 2023 #19
Canada I believe still requires an IQ test for new arrivals who wish to apply for citizenship.
Possibly this has changed, but have yet to find any news sources on line, even after inputting various key words in combination.
Cargo pants 3 | 1,500
21 Jul 2023 #20
From what I was reading

AH,you could read,you couldnt years back when u....

those who are not eligible for ETIAS

I wonder who are not being US citizens? The ones who overstayed or were deported?
Alien 21 | 5,220
21 Apr 2024 #21
Canada I believe still requires an IQ test for new arrivals who wish to apply for citizenship

How many points do you need to get accepted?


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