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Possible Green Surge in Germany


Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,815
6 Oct 2021 #61
....not to mention that Berlin is totally broke and the whole of Germany would have to pay for it!
Tacitus 2 | 1,495
6 Oct 2021 #62
Yeah, I'd rather see the money invested in more useful infrastructure.
mafketis 32 | 10,552
6 Oct 2021 #63
t Berlin is totally broke

What effect will the recent vote about confiscating housing from corporate landlords have? I've heard how impossible the housing market is there, how do you think it will change now?

the whole of Germany would have to pay for it!

Wouldn't it make the rest of the country love it's dear Capital City even more?
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,815
6 Oct 2021 #64
how do you think it will change now?

I really don't think they will go through with it.....there must be something in our basic law against dispossession by referendum. Not to forget you are talking about Leftists here...whenever have Leftists be able to make anything work??? They are ever always full of promises, needing other peoples money (or homes in this case)!

The last time Leftists offered cheap housing the people were forced to live in totally run down, broken, dirty homes.....till they run away for capitalist homes....

google.com/search?q=Ost+Berlin+Wohnungen+DDR&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ7uGMzbXzAhUMqaQKHYKmC0AQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1239&bih=653&dpr=1.5#imgrc=MzNyTcuSMqu5RM&imgdii=c-ACO-rWsk4oQM

....the same Lefties btw....who can't even organize an open and fair election should be tasked with something like that??? I don't see it working, sorry...

Wouldn't it make the rest of the country love it's dear Capital City even more?

That is all so embarassing! *facepalm*
Novichok 2 | 5,573
6 Oct 2021 #65
the whole of Germany would have to pay for it!

In a "democracy", there is no "have to". Only "want to".
jon357 69 | 18,445
6 Oct 2021 #66
the whole of Germany would have to pay for it!

That issue is often raised around international sports events. The Olympics tend to work best in places that need regeneration, hence holding them 2012 in Stratford East, and some years before near Barcelona docks.
OP Lyzko 32 | 7,873
6 Oct 2021 #67
Wrongo, Richie! Man is naturally imperfect and must be reigned in before it's too late...or else!
Novichok 2 | 5,573
6 Oct 2021 #68
The Olympics tend to work best in places...

...where the taxpayers are told to shut up and pay. Which is everywhere.
OP Lyzko 32 | 7,873
6 Oct 2021 #69
Extortion is in the eye of the citizen! At least Germany gets something for their taxes.
jon357 69 | 18,445
6 Oct 2021 #70
Extortion is in the eye of the citizen!

Quite. Olympic financing has quite a lot of issues, however I expect Die Grünen would be at the forefront of those opposing.

Really, it's a thing for brownfield regeneration, and for countries that need the infrastructure.
Novichok 2 | 5,573
6 Oct 2021 #71
for countries that need the infrastructure.

BS. Olympics are financial losers to the host country (country = taxpayers) before, during, and after. After the rush, the facilities rot and grow weeds.
The beautiful people and the 1%-ers love them, make deposits, and move on.
jon357 69 | 18,445
6 Oct 2021 #72
the eye of the citizen!

Indeed.
Novichok 2 | 5,573
6 Oct 2021 #73
Extortion is in the eye of the citizen

Extortion has nothing to do with eyes. It's all about money.
jon357 69 | 18,445
6 Oct 2021 #74
there must be something in our basic law against dispossession by referendum

Would that not have prevented the referendum happening. What's the mechanism for triggering a referendum in Germany?
OP Lyzko 32 | 7,873
6 Oct 2021 #75
Rich, you intentially missed my point.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,815
6 Oct 2021 #76
Would that not have prevented the referendum happening.

Everywhere else....of course! (There isn't any)

But we are talking "red Berlin" here...where the crazies have taken over the asylum....they are even talking about to go to the Bundesverfassungsgericht about that.

On the other hand with Berlin the whole country can see what happens when red-red-green gets to rule in reality....I nurture the thought that was a reason for the massive underperformance of the GRÜNEN and the LINKE party's during the recent election....
mafketis 32 | 10,552
6 Oct 2021 #77
When the cold war was on the Olympics were terrific drama ( a kind of mostly non-violent proxy warfare ) and it had a kind of mystique about it. Also spectacle was far less common and so they were an event.

In the modern world spectacles are a dime a dozen and there's no meta narrative around the olympics (to replace the old East bloc vs the West) and so fewer and fewer people find anything interesting there.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,815
6 Oct 2021 #78
and so fewer and fewer people find anything interesting there.

....and the whole topic about Doping! To many winners had been later found out to be cheaters....or the men who win womens competitions....and countries buying foreigners to win medals for them etc.

It just isn't the same anymore...the only ones who still "feel the spirit" of the Cold War are the Chinese, who still seem to believe producing winners and records en masse in their children-torture-camps is somehow winning them international respect and sympathy! 🙄
mafketis 32 | 10,552
6 Oct 2021 #79
...and the whole topic about Doping!

Another nail in the coffin....

the only ones who still "feel the spirit" of the Cold War are the Chinese

But they're boring and don't have the undercurrent of menace that the old Soviet or DDR teams had (twin American favorite villains).
Novichok 2 | 5,573
6 Oct 2021 #81
In the modern world spectacles are a dime a dozen

...like reality shows and singing competitions.
jon357 69 | 18,445
6 Oct 2021 #82
the undercurrent of menace t

That may well return.

We are in interesting times.
Novichok 2 | 5,573
6 Oct 2021 #83
Both countries should have all medals stripped due to doping.

1. Countries don't win medals. Individuals do.
2. Doping is minor compared to training as a man and competing as a woman.
OP Lyzko 32 | 7,873
6 Oct 2021 #84
I predict that way off in the future, Germany's chancellor will be either a Turkish-German or a Chinese woman:-)
jon357 69 | 18,445
6 Oct 2021 #85
way off in the future

Hopefully sooner, if the right person appears on the political scene.
OP Lyzko 32 | 7,873
6 Oct 2021 #86
Always had my money on Cem Ozdemir, for instance, but I suppose it wasn't the right time:-) Heck, Poland already had one black member of the Sejm!
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,815
6 Oct 2021 #87
Hopefully sooner,

Why?

Always had my money on Cem Ozdemir,

Özdemir blew his chance....there is a reason (actually two reasons) the GREENS didn't even nominate him for their current team...

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonusmeilen-Aff%C3%A4re

taz.de/Verspaetete-Meldung-von-Nebeneinkuenften/!5769735/
OP Lyzko 32 | 7,873
6 Oct 2021 #88
Guess people have grown suspicious of the Greenies and their agenda, huh.
jon357 69 | 18,445
6 Oct 2021 #89
Why?

Why not?
OP Lyzko 32 | 7,873
6 Oct 2021 #90
Just to chime in here, I think Germany's more than ready for political diversity!
Why not start at the top as we did with Obama?


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