75 Years of Israel and the War - part 2

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Just like Russia with Ukraine, Iran is playing the stupid "tit for tat" game instead of hitting hard and smart.

See: Shock and awe...

I am proud to be an American. Kill them all and apologize later...if you give a shyt...

Rich, last week you were supporting Israel..... are you an easy turncoat?

The bold text is a quote I found interesting, not what I think.

As far as switching sides...I am not switching anything...I just put myself in the position of one side or the other and ask what I would do.

The only side that matters to me is 10 people aka my family. This side will be my side until I drop dead. Everything else will depend on how feel that day.

In this case, my side is Iran and the question is what the fvck is this "response" supposed to accomplish? Duh!

Don't underestimate our Persian brothers (of course, it hurts me that they are at loggerheads with our Israeli brothers) - what they did was incredibly smart. They showed that they could do a lot of damage if they wanted, but they did it in a way that allowed to avoid irreversible consequences. Let's not forget that Israel is a nuclear superpower and Iran... not just yet (we are working on it together, as careful readers of my posts already know).

In the future there will be organised a conference of three nuclear superpowers - Iran, Israel and Poland - in which all past differences will be forgotten and Poland will act as a mediator and peacemaker between our Persian and Israeli brothers. This will also be the time when in certain capital cities of the world the demand for diapers will increase exponentially.

@Torq

The Sarmatians will once again unite!

Iranians and Jews probably do not belong to them.

@Bobko

Indeed, dobri brate. Indeed.


Iranians are our friends and most Jews speak either Russian or Polish, so there.

Jews, no.

Persians, yes. They are the original Sarmatians.

geez you are an ignorant little man, go back to drinking that is all you do in your free time.
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Aren't modern Jews in a large part Khazars that mixed with Sarmatian tribes?

Exactly.

Russia, Poland, Israel, Iran - one big happy dysfunctional Sarmatian family. :)

They aren't Sarmatians.

Well, not to the extent that Poles are but let's not exclude them because of the slight Mongol blood admixture. We are not some f*cking nazis, Iron.

God forbid, we should lay claim to your blessed history!

As long as you know your place we are cool.

Yes, our place is by the door, and yours is by the Lord's fireplace.

Damn it, Iron. An atheist is beating you in humility. Say something humble, quickly!

It's ok.

I don't want to remind people who is the Third Rome, and who bears the legacy of the Byzantine protectors of Orthodoxy.

I know better, than to argue with a Pole, regarding which nation has been anointed by the Almighty.

You are indeed the Third Rome and a God-send blessing to Christendom, whilst we are only a tiny antemurale Christianitas.


You have been annointed with the holy, scented oil with cassia and myrrh, and we with a measly little dub of sunflower oil (past the expiration date).

@God

See, Lord? We can be humble too.

*phew*

Reminds me of another reason I hate Orthodoxy. Chrism of mysterious origin, a holy flame which descends with the power of a Zippo, and belief in some kind of escalator towards Heaven.

... but in Orthodoxy you also have chiotki (the second best thing after rosary), Jesus' prayer, and beautiful ancient liturgy untouched by modern "reformers" (unlike the Catholic liturgy).

There are nice things, about it, for sure. Just the general anti-scientific bent of Orthodoxy stresses me out. The willingness to believe in cheap tricks and shows. The total surrender to the will of the hierarchs. The effective social caste system. And so on, and so forth.

It's truly a religion coming from the 1100s and 1200s.

It saps the creative energies of the Russian people, and makes them into mute beasts.

Look what we did when we were free of religion (I don't mean Katyn and the GULAG).

Americans have always been a deeply religious society (albeit a diverse one in this respect) and they managed to achieve a thing or two as well.


Hmm... how many Russians would you say are genuine, practising Orthodox Christians who treat their religion seriously? I'm not quite sure if it's the religion that is to blame for Russian passivity.

Of course there's truth in this, and the best proof is probably your behavior - our cousins - who are Catholic.

You are Catholic, we are Orthodox - and yet so many of the same pathologies are apparent.

But religion definitely has a huge role to play in Russian genetic fatalism.

Why? Is that some kind of a contest?
Look I only stated a fact that Moscovites and Russians are not Sarmatians.
I don't have any problem with Russians they are what they are, I even prefer to talk politicks with them than with Poles as they are more realistic .

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It doesn't change the fact that for the last 300 years if not more it educated elite build that Imperialisitc culture with a dogma of keeping Poland down to ensure Moscow dominance. So by all means we can be friendly all right and talk all kinds of stuff but I don't like it when they are overdoing it by being one of the lands we are cool friends game.

They don't mean it any other way but in a patronising demining way. But if you don't want to play aware of the bias they play a victim,.

I could go along but then they like to talk about Poles being snakes, so in my case they get it straight ..
As long as we know our place and don't play games we are cool.

It's just emotional reaction to being beaten and being unable to comprehend it or accept it due to percieved as «better»

It's like playing poker with a person that demands that you show your cards at the start of the game otherwise he will punch you, and you do it so quickly he won't be able to see what you got and get mad at you.

Or a chess game where a Russian as opponent demands his opponent to reveal his tactics beforehand with threats.

Russia&Russians don't trust Poles and it shows many times

Poles don't trust Poles and that's why they talk in riddles and metaphors.

Sometimes, it's helpful to talk in the categories of national characteristics.

However, when you are talking about the conversation between a Polish individual and Russian individual - it would be very stupid indeed to assume that the Russian by default assumes the position of a domineering bully, and the Pole that of a plucky upstart.

The Russian might be shy and unsure of himself, and the Pole charming and confident. It could be the reverse, or a thousand other ways.

Please don't inject diplomatic history into personal relations.

Nobody is. They lived many centuries ago.


This is their clear strategy.


They still believe they're a superpower. They do t appreciate that most people's view of them is overwhelmingly negative and as dependency on fossil fuels lessens they'll get poorer and poorer.

US vetoes political route for Palestinian statehood.

Thank you, Mr Reuters.

Now how about telling us what you think about it...Too scared?