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Being a Slav: a blessing or a curse?


pawian  221 | 25006
28 Jul 2023   #181
Life became much better for them.

Even betterer for their white owners.
PS. Why are you taking the thread off topic??? It is illegal :):):)
Bobko  27 | 2086
28 Jul 2023   #182
in Polish "biesiada" is a long party with a lot of food and alcohol.

What to a Russian is a casual discussion, is to a Pole a long party with food and alcohol. Makes sense.

Why are you taking the thread off topic???

Yes, back to topic... I agree with you - how can I hate myself? However, objectivity demands we apply a neutral framework here.

I would say, for most of human history - being a Slav was not fun. We were so far on the periphery, that we never experienced the Roman or Byzantine Empires in the same way the French, Germans, or Spanish did. For ages we were being kidnapped and sold into slavery by Turks, Greeks, Tatars. We acted as a meat cushion for the rest of Europe during Mongol invasion. We missed out on all the benefits of global trade, due to being locked up in the puddle people call the Baltic Sea, and being bottled up in the Black Sea. For centuries, there was almost nothing we contributed to science or art, instead being used as faceless masses of mercenaries by European despots.

However, starting in the middle of the 19th century the Age of Slavs had come. Long in the shadows - the time came to take center place. Now, I would not trade being a Slav for an Anglo in a thousand years.
pawian  221 | 25006
28 Jul 2023   #183
never experienced the Roman or Byzantine Empires kidnapped and sold into slavery as a meat cushion during Mongol invasion locked up in the puddle .

And this history of ancient Slavs is deeply rooted in your mind and genes and prevents you from enjoying life as a Slav. :):):)
Bobko  27 | 2086
28 Jul 2023   #184
prevents you from enjoying life as a Slav.

Explain.
pawian  221 | 25006
28 Jul 2023   #185
Coz you sounded a bit melancholic with this ancient history of yours. And you mentioned a neutral framework. Neutral is in the middle so you are neither sad nor exhilarated.
Bobko  27 | 2086
28 Jul 2023   #186
a bit melancholic with this ancient history of yours

If it has not been clear from my past 5 years of posting - I am a Pan-Slavist. Have been, since my grandfather indoctrinated me into it when I was very young. It's why I'm here, because I love Polish history - Siege of Vienna, Winged Hussars, and Kosciusko in America included.

Only later I started trolling, when my Russian genes woke up.
pawian  221 | 25006
28 Jul 2023   #187
I am a Pan-Slavist.

To Poles who know history - Russian Pan-Slavism is just a nice term for their inborn imperialism. Poles should stay away as much as possible from it because it is extremely dangerous. Vide: Russian Panslavism in action in Ukraine right now.
Bobko  27 | 2086
28 Jul 2023   #188
Russian Pan-Slavism is just a nice term for their inborn imperialism

Yes, this is why in the 20th century we had more Ukrainians leading us than Russians.
pawian  221 | 25006
28 Jul 2023   #189
we had more Ukrainians leading us than Russians.

Really? I only know about Kruschev.
Bobko  27 | 2086
28 Jul 2023   #190
@pawian

I guess you have not heard of Brezhnev, Chernenko, and Gorbachev.
pawian  221 | 25006
28 Jul 2023   #191
Chernenko

I checked Chernenko. He was born in Siberia. :):):) Gorbachev was born in Russia with Russian Ukrainian roots.
Only Kruschev really counts.
Breżniew too.
Bobko  27 | 2086
28 Jul 2023   #192
He was born in Siberia. :):):)

So what? If I was born in Kazakhstan, am I Kazakh now?
pawian  221 | 25006
28 Jul 2023   #193
So what? I

So, prove that Chernenko was Ukrainian.:):)
Bobko  27 | 2086
28 Jul 2023   #194
Is "Chernenko" not enough for you? What Russian, or Belarusian has a name ending in "-Ko"? He is either a dirty Hohol or a Pole.
pawian  221 | 25006
28 Jul 2023   #195
Is "Chernenko" not enough for you?

Sources say nothing about him being Ukrainian. I asked you to prove. Stop twisting and wriggling out. :):):)]

What Russian, or Belarusian has a name ending in "-Ko"?

Plenty surnames ending with -ko in Russia. As well as -ski. Still ,they are pure Russians. :):):)
Bobko  27 | 2086
28 Jul 2023   #196
Sources say nothing about him being Ukrainian

Here is an article in one of the largest newspapers in Russia, with an entire section titled: "The Ukrainian from Siberia".

His parents were born to Ukrainian settlers who moved to Siberia.

Source: aif.ru/amp/society/history/k_u_znachit_chernenko_istoriya_samogo_strannogo_lidera_sovetskogo_soyuza

Plenty surnames ending with -ko in Russia

Yeah, and they are Ukrainian or Polish on the patrilineal side.
pawian  221 | 25006
28 Jul 2023   #197
Ukrainian settlers who moved to Siberia.

His father was Ukrainian, mother native Siberian.

nd they are Ukrainian or Polish on the patrilineal side

Ancient ancestry doesn` t make them foreigners - they are Russians.
Ironside  50 | 12342
29 Jul 2023   #198
His father was Ukrainian, mother native Siberian.

was it you talking about ethnic Poles? If you did, what kind of animal are you? Some facist, racist freak? Left, progressive main idological BS creek?
pawian  221 | 25006
29 Jul 2023   #199
what kind of animal are you?

Can`t you see???? It is easy - read my nick.

facist,

Stop this self-promotion. :):):)

creek?

Creek??? I know creeks in geography but what does it mean about animals???


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