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Being a Slav: a blessing or a curse?


nott  3 | 592
6 Apr 2011   #91
Poles are more blonde on average and have less rounded lids' openning for eyes.

Hm... you mean this specimen:

Yulia

would be rather Ukrainian, and this one:

Yulia

rather Polish...?
:)

Well, seems the closer we are, the more differences we see inside the nation. Slightly aside, and some more or less vague generalisation emerges.

Generally speaking it can't be an insult to call somebody a non-Slav. Though when deliberately calling a Slav not a Slav could be that.

But you just assume that Russians are Slavs by definition. Now what the definition is, except 'speaking a Slavic language'?

Not earlier than you prove me that the Poles are Slavs.

I started thinking about it right after posting, and no, I'd rather not. Can you think about a set of a handful of features that fit both a Russian and a Czech, a Pole and a Macedonian?

I suspect I know why Nathan doesn't think Russians are Slavs, but come on. Czechs are half German, Slovaks are half Hungarian, Bulgarians are half Turkish. Different history, different cultures, different religions, different mentalities.
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
6 Apr 2011   #92
you mean this specimen

She is Ukrainian through and through. Typical delicateness of a Ukrainian woman face. Unrepeatable. Deep eyes... and perfect lips. The turn of the filigrane brows drives you nuts. It is absolutely Ukrainian, nott :)))

But anyhow, I was talking about men being blonde, moustached and gayish irises ;)

Well, seems the closer we are, the more differences we see inside the nation. Slightly aside, and some more or less vague generalisation emerges

There wasn't a wall between Poland and Ukraine and the mix was a normal thing, but we definitely buried more than brought to this world together, historically. Now, it seems the other way around, which is much better. Still, I am trying to capture what might be the uniting element for the Slavs, because I feel that there is.
FlaglessPole  4 | 649
6 Apr 2011   #93
What's with that rope on her head? Is she gonna tow a tractor or smth??
Daisy  3 | 1211
6 Apr 2011   #94
Nice that she had it dyed with the same dye she uses on her hair. Those roots definitely need touching up
nott  3 | 592
6 Apr 2011   #95
She is Ukrainian through and through. Typical delicateness of a Ukrainian woman face. Unrepeatable. Deep eyes... and perfect lips.

Fk sake, stop it! Got some clear thinking to do...

Right. Thing is, she looks more like Italian on the first pic, innit? :)

we definitely buried more than brought to this world together, historically

disputable. Highly.

Still, I am trying to capture what might be the uniting element for the Slavs, because I feel that there is.

Sure there is. Common belief that we have something in common :)

And I am being quite serious now, actually. Identity is just that. Except for that, and the languages, obviously, I can't see anything much. Common origin. Mostly, possibly. So what, it was 15 hundred years ago.

What's with that rope on her head?

Huh? This is traditional. A long plait pinned up in a form of a halo. Ancient apotropaic magic, to ward off idiots.
sascha  1 | 824
6 Apr 2011   #96
Hm... you mean this specimen:

What? Come on, man. Too much for that nice woman/girl. Show some REAL specimen if you understand what that term means. :)

What's with that rope on her head?

It's giving her the 'virgin/girly' kinda look. Naiv. ;)
nott  3 | 592
6 Apr 2011   #97
Show some REAL specimen if you understand what that term means. :)

Geez, you made me use my dictionary....

An individual, item, or part representative of a class, genus, or whole

Now tell me she is not a representative. She a fkn Prime Minister! :)

And don't mix Polish politics into it, oh-key?
sascha  1 | 824
6 Apr 2011   #98
Geez, you made me use my dictionary....

Nice. Bravo!

Now tell me she is not a representative. She a fkn Prime Minister! :)

Yes she is, but that's it. As a woman she's cute and so on, but nothing special, definetly no specimen if you understand what I mean. She's neither hot nor EXTRA. No specimen in that particular way. :)

And don't mix Polish politics into it, oh-key?

Nope.
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
6 Apr 2011   #99
Fk sake, stop it! Got some clear thinking to do...

I barely typed it myself :)

Thing is, she looks more like Italian on the first pic, innit? :)

I agree.There is something, mostly dark hair and eyes and fine features, but the nose, cheeks and look are unmistakable, nott :)You are powerless to deny it :)

Show some REAL specimen if you understand what that term means.

What do they show in Serbia, sascha? Mladic? Come on.

Ancient apotropaic magic, to ward off idiots.

Exactly, but, unfortunately, doesn't work through internet as you can see, though, and in politics.
nott  3 | 592
6 Apr 2011   #100
She's neither hot nor EXTRA. No specimen in that particular way. :)

She's a 'typical' Ukrainian, the essence of a Ukrainian woman. From what I know you are a German, so you won't be able to get it.

Simple PR, obviously, but I bet it works wonders.

Nathan, there's another Slavic thing, I forgot: worship of Slavic women. Oh, to be strict, I don't know about Southern Slavs.

Nope.

Good man :)

but the nose, cheeks and look

No, the cheeks... the look is... damn you, Nathan. The look is. I am not a poet. Not currently. Ok, you scored a point, happy? Damn bloody Ukrainians...
sascha  1 | 824
6 Apr 2011   #101
She's a 'typical' Ukrainian, the essence of a Ukrainian woman.

O.K., but the essence of ukranian woman I experienced looked a lot more like specimen. ;)

From what I know you are a German, so you won't be able to get it.

Yap, I am German. So? What might you say that. Just look at the comment above. ;)
She's a politician and not intersting at all.

Oh, to be strict, I don't know about Southern Slavs

That's the right group of women to use the term specimen and btw add meditiranian, in my opinion of course. :)

worship of Slavic women

:)
nott  3 | 592
6 Apr 2011   #102
O.K., but the essence of ukranian woman I experienced looked a lot more like specimen. ;)

That's what Germans get...
:)

She's a politician and not intersting at all.

I spent quite a while browsing those google photos... she's got that something... slightly irritating, as I know it's just a simple manipulation, and that stereotype, you know... Still, it's like tickling the spinal cord...
AdamKadmon  2 | 494
6 Apr 2011   #103
Wraiths of the living and phantoms of the dead began to show at last.
sascha  1 | 824
6 Apr 2011   #104
That's what Germans get...

We, well I, since I am not all Germans like BB, I mostly get A specimen. ;)

Still, it's like tickling the spinal cord...

Gar nichts.

Wraiths of the living and phantoms of the dead began to show at last.

Elaborate, pls.
nott  3 | 592
6 Apr 2011   #105
nott: Still, it's like tickling the spinal cord...
Gar nichts.

Nathan, QED :) Proved and stamped. They just don't get it, we do live it. We are Slavs, they are not. Language, belief in Slavia, worship of true women. Irrational enough to be immune to reasoning. Unbreakable bond :)
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
7 Apr 2011   #106
there's another Slavic thing, I forgot: worship of Slavic women

Absolutely. A true Slav admires Slavic women not only for their beauty, but their heart. Slavic women - unsurpassable.

I am not a poet. Not currently

If you are a Slav, nott, you are a poet, because admiring Slavic women one even being silent tells everything and they will understand.

She's a politician and not intersting at all.

I mean ... man, what politics has to do with appreciating beauty? Post a photo of any Slavic woman, politician or not, and I will show you the features to admire and thank God for being a Slav.

Language, belief in Slavia, worship of true women. Irrational enough to be immune to reasoning. Unbreakable bond :)

Agreed 100% :) I like that "Irrational enough to be immune to reasoning". And you say you are not a poet ?! :)
southern  73 | 7059
7 Apr 2011   #107
For example Mila Jovovic with serbian father and ukrainian mother has typical slavic look.
Natasa  1 | 572
7 Apr 2011   #108
Mila Jovovic

Interesting mix of the robust, strong body (serbain feature), slightly sharper facial characteristics and Ukrainian colors.
I have a friend made of the same compounds, she looks completely Ukrainian. Red hair. Higher cheeks, meaty, heavy legs (that is rare here), narrow shoulders....but kinkiness is also Ukrainian ;)
southern  73 | 7059
7 Apr 2011   #109
We can say that Mila posesses slavic soul a bit unspoilt by americanization.However she keeps sth serbian as well these dark secrets who knows.Anyway interslavic mixes give often amazing and exotic flowers.(especially in deserts like the western world).

Red hair. Higher cheeks, meaty, heavy legs (that is rare here), narrow shoulders....but kinkiness is also Ukrainian ;)

Slavic legs are long and very well shaped.Germanic legs are either very strong or fat or extremely slim in any case not especially attractive due to lack of shaped design.Mediteranean legs suffer from shortness and deviation from vertical position.

kinkiness is also Ukrainian ;)

Ukrainky are always excited and horny.Long live the slavic chick!
sascha  1 | 824
10 Apr 2011   #110
Mila

= #1!

unspoilt by americanization

That can be fast removed. Nothing much to be spoiled by. ;)
Natasa  1 | 572
10 Apr 2011   #111
Mediteranean legs suffer from shortness and deviation from vertical position.

The daughter of one of our diplomats who lived in Rome 4 years, told me that she didn't see one "pair of good legs" during that period there.

I noticed that too in Italy, but they are skilfully masking the problem. In general they look OK.
southern  73 | 7059
10 Apr 2011   #112
told me that she didn't see one "pair of good legs" during that period there.

Yes,when I notice the right shape I strongly suspect slavic origin.''Kochanie masz slowianske nogi.''
Crnogorac3  3 | 658
4 Feb 2017   #113
Merged:

Autochthonous Slavic History - Nino Belov (Nimrod)



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Nino Belov - Nimrod, Bacchus
(2025-2000 BC)

He was born in today's Niš, Serbia (the then Naissus) and is regarded as the first conqueror of the whole world .... (then known). The founder of the city of Nineveh. Nino was first identified in the Recognitions (part of Clementine literature) with the biblical Nimrod, who, the author says, taught the Persians to worship fire.

He conquered from the Danube to the Caucasus, India, Mesopotamia, Egypt...

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Nino Belov was reputed to have conquered the whole of western Asia in 17 years and to have founded the world's first empire.

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youtube.com/watch?v=Wbh3Da92XhA
Crow  154 | 9249
5 Feb 2017   #114
taught the Persians to worship fire

yes, he introduced them Sarmatin solsitice.

Many opened questions in case with Nino. Some consider him to be hiperborean leader that led Aryan invasion onto black India, on the other side of Ind River. In that case Nino would be that ``Srbinda`` (citation, exact word from Rg Veda) described in Hindu Rg Vedic manuscripts. Also, this would mean that Nino and Buddha (who was white and Scythan ie Sarmatian; in Slavic languages his name means- PROBUDJENI - `awakened one` or `one who awakened us`) were part of same Aryan/Sramatian (ie Slavic) nobility.

Anyway, interesting that Alexander of Macedon later followed Nino`s conquests. Defense of some wealth flow, no doubt about it.
Crnogorac3  3 | 658
6 Feb 2017   #115
Nino Belov (Ninus Belus), Serb, first ruler of the world, biblical Nimrod

At that time, it was essential that the rulers identify with some deity, and he proclaimed himself the son of God Bacchus... Who was the main god and to whom they offered bulls as sacrifices every 3 years until the Christian church prohibited such ceremonies as a pagan custom.

It's an example also in ancient mythology that all the great heroes are the sons of Gods...
When someone is so declared for a successor god then he represents also his interests...

NINO is always presented as a God Bacchus (the body of a bull and the head of a man with wings) but called BELOV.

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For the ancient Serbs BELOV is BELBOG and later for Slavs BELBOG is the same as Bacchus.

Additionally, Ioannis Zanarae argues that Romans called Belbog Bacchus, and the Greeks called him Dionysus which is a combination of two names: Dios/God, and Naissus/Nis (Serbia): the birth place of Bacchus
Ironside  50 | 12342
6 Feb 2017   #116
Nino Belov (Ninus Belus), Serb, first ruler of the world, biblical Nimrod

I guess that Gilgamesh was from Crnogora then? Mystery that shrouded the place of origin of Sumerians had been lifted. they were Serbs no doubt about it. Bilgamesh a typical Serbian name - Bilge Mensć or what not.
Crow  154 | 9249
6 Feb 2017   #117
Mockery is always best tool of limited people.
Ironside  50 | 12342
6 Feb 2017   #119
Mockery is always best tool of limited people.

Well, one needs to know his limits otherwise he runs a risk to be so open-minded that his brain gonna fell out.

It's a blessing of course!!!

Slavic is not a race, it used to be a one culture group of indigenous European population akin to Celts. That cultural integrity and sameness is no more, due to the natural historical processes that are too complex and too scientific for this thread.
NoToForeigners  6 | 948
6 Feb 2017   #120
@Ironside
Still I feel way more connected to other Slavs than to let's say Germans, Spaniards or French. I too believe that no other Western "culture group" (except Scandinavians maybe) feels the connection with others in the group.


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