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Being a Slav: a blessing or a curse?


nott  3 | 592
2 Apr 2011   #31

So maybe it's body language, or something. Which brings us back to mentality..
PennBoy  76 | 2429
2 Apr 2011   #32
I do believe it's mostly looks but you are right also.
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
2 Apr 2011   #33
Don't count Poles in, then. Mongrel nation, and it shows.

I don't fully agree. There was strong sexual selection in Polish females, that's why they are so beautiful. Polish men are damn ugly bastards. This contrast proves that they evolved as a nation.

Btw your subject is racist in nature.

I don't see it racist. Slavs are not a race even. And I am just trying to figure out the whole Slavic movement in our heads. In regards to not liking some PF members, this is not true. If there was no controversy on PF I would create one, otherwise, I am out.

Hm, now we could heat people up, see who perishes, and then find their other common features, by way of strict mathematical analysis... brilliant, Nathan :)

DNA might be destroyed. We have to carefully extract Slavic genes into alcohol, as far as I remember, ethanol is the best Slavic solvent out there :)
Ironside  50 | 12484
2 Apr 2011   #34
Most Americans know I'm foreign just by looking at me

What are you talking about ? Nobody would say that I'm Polish from that way I look
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PennBoy  76 | 2429
2 Apr 2011   #35
Maybe you're not full Polish, that's you the individual.
Ironside  50 | 12484
2 Apr 2011   #36
Maybe you're not full Polish,

What full Polish ?
PennBoy  76 | 2429
2 Apr 2011   #37
może masz jakąś domieszkę z innej narodowości tylko nie wiesz
Ironside  50 | 12484
2 Apr 2011   #38
szkocka i włoska, ale rozcieńczona, innych nie wiem, ale nie ma jakiego typowego wyglądu dla polaków.
Penguins Fan  - | 2
2 Apr 2011   #39
Hi, new member here. My great grandparents fled partitioned Poland in the early 20th century and ended up near....Pittsburgh.

Slavs have a few things in common. Slavs hold grudges. That goes for Slavs in Europe and Americans of Slavic descent.

Want another one? Slavs tend to have livers the size of watermelons. Piwo, vodka, it doesn't matter. They love their ethanol.
nott  3 | 592
2 Apr 2011   #40
There was strong sexual selection in Polish females, that's why they are so beautiful. Polish men are damn ugly bastards. This contrast proves that they evolved as a nation.

I don;t fully follow your reasoning here... anyway, Polish women, and men, are of all shapes and colours, in reasonable limits. Ukrainians are more uniformed, as are Germans, the English, Italians, etc.


No such thing as a full Pole. Everybody could dig out some foreign ancestor, and let's not forget that the nation wasn't really formed until somewhere near Renaissance.

We have to carefully extract Slavic genes into alcohol,

Aah, now you talkin... Alcoholic extract, pure essence of the Slavic spirit! Rright! :)

Come to think of it, I vaguely recollect such experiments being done... on numerous occasions even... so you've hit the nail in the head, yes. The common Slavic thing is that deep conviction, based on a long and extensive research, that we truly know what being Slavic means, since we must've seen it so many times with our own eyes! :)

Edit:

They love their ethanol.

That's a very mystic thing, man. A quest to the roots, like. Don't take it lightly
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
2 Apr 2011   #41
szkocka i włoska, ale rozcieńczona, innych nie wiem, ale nie ma jakiego typowego wyglądu dla polaków.

I see some Ukrainian pieprz w tobie też, Ironside; welcome to the family :)

I don;t fully follow your reasoning here...

Quite frankly, me either. But basically I wanted to draw the comparison with nature where you see beautiful males vs unconspicuous and "boring" females. Usually, high differentiation occurs due to selection within a given species, but in Polish case it is the opposite way, but still it would indicate that they evolved as a unique group. It is not supported in any way and is not indicative of anything, but I just made a little hypothesis out of it :)

Ukrainians are more uniformed, as are Germans, the English, Italians, etc

Interesting. But I think it is not far from what Poland has.

that we truly know what being Slavic means, since we must've seen it so many times with our own eyes!

And with our own bellies, warmed up with Slavic "fuel" :)
PlasticPole  7 | 2641
2 Apr 2011   #42
If this group is unique in some features from the rest of homo sapiens, what are these features?

We are more intelligent, of course! Look at the Soviet Union. Despite what you think of Soviets, they were the first nation to send people and objects into space! Quite technologically advanced, they were.
guesswho  4 | 1272
2 Apr 2011   #43
Being a Slav: a blessing or a curse?

Why even think about it Nathan, as long as you're a good guy, who cares?
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
3 Apr 2011   #44
We are more intelligent, of course! Look at the Soviet Union. Despite what you think of Soviets, they were the first nation to send people and objects into space! Quite technologically advanced, they were.

Ok, let me teach you a bit about Soviet Union, PP :)
The Soviet Union was not a nation.
It consisted of 15 republics, majority of which was not Slavic.
They sent more people into concentration camps than space.
If Soviet Union was technologically advanced, then either you have no idea what you are talking about or you just like to pull my leg

*takes his leg away from PlasticPole*

Why even think about it Nathan, as long as you're a good guy, who cares?

Sometimes, the roots are the burden; sometimes, they are an inspiration. In any case one has to scrutinize one's root to find out the past. Without determining one's origin and what it means for a given person, it is difficult to move in a world full of lost identities. For me it is not enough to belong to a species, I want to be more precise in knowing who I am. And I bet others would like that too. What about you, guesswho? Also, being a good guy and sometimes a bad guy I wonder: does it have to do with my Slavicity or it is just normal humanity? :)
PlasticPole  7 | 2641
3 Apr 2011   #45
If Soviet Union was technologically advanced, then either you have no idea what you are talking about or you just like to pull my leg

When it came to outer space, they were. No denying it. We Americans took some cues from them. And it was slavs who pioneered the Soviet space program. You hate the Soviet Union, I realize, but that doesn't discount the fact the soviet slavic scientists were able to manipulate matter and gravity to the point they could get satellites and stuff out there.

Those Russian scientists knew their stuff, they were slavs,therefore smarter than average.
Because of slavs, we will one day venture into interstellar space. I am very proud of this fact.
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
3 Apr 2011   #46
Those Russian scientists knew their stuff, they were slavs,therefore smarter than average.

If you mean that to starve to death and make poor and scared 120 million people in order to put their earned living into a group of scientists who were afraid to end up in the concentration camps as well means that they are above average, then excuse me, you are right.

We Americans took some cues from them.

What cues?

You hate the Soviet Union

Trust me, you would hate it too, but since I know the way they teach about the Soviet Union in the States, I fully understand your admiration, PP.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641
3 Apr 2011   #47
If you mean that to starve to death and make poor and scared 120 million people in order to put their earned living into a group of scientists who were afraid to end up in the concentration camps as well means that they are above average, then excuse me, you are right.

It was the crappy government that did it, not the scientists. The scientists were the cream of the crop. They were much more advanced than everyone else at the time. I am talking about the space program and the scientists, not the soviet government and it's rotten policies.

What cues?

If it wasn't for the SU space program, America wouldn't have been so driven to put astronauts on the moon and determined to build probes seeking out other planets, learning more about the solar system. It was a fierce competition between the two countries that resulted in new industry and breathtaking technological advances.

Trust me, you would hate it too, but since I know the way they teach about the Soviet Union in the States, I fully understand your admiration, PP.

I don't want to live in a soviet run country, are you kidding me? I just admire the scientists who pioneered technology that has benefited the search for new worlds.
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
3 Apr 2011   #48
It was a fierce competition

Understandable. Morons of the world, unite! The Soviets were saying that they will put apple-trees on the moon. What a bunch of dumb-asses.

It was the crappy government that did it, not the scientists. The scientists were the cream of the crop. They were much more advanced than everyone else at the time. I am talking about the space program and the scientists, not the soviet government and it's rotten policies.

Give me a few dumb-asses and 120 million who would sacrifice their humane living on them for a decade or two and I will send our species out of our galaxy. I don't see where you draw the AVERAGE value from.

I just admire the scientists who pioneered technology that has benefited the search for new worlds.

How tough is it to make a rocket that will be in a space for a few minutes. What an achievement! For money and lives they wasted they should have invested more knowledge into medicine and disease cures - this is an achievement, indeed. Other countries were investing money into various fields, while the retarded Union invested billions in a few scientists who sent a rocket into a space. If this is intelligence, ...
guesswho  4 | 1272
3 Apr 2011   #49
Without determining one's origin

it's not what I was talking about. Of course it's good to know your origin but what I meant earlier is basically that it doesn't matter where you're from as long as you're a good person.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641
3 Apr 2011   #50
If this is intelligence, ...

Again, you go back to the crappy government and not the scientists. I am not talking about the government. Everyone agrees it sucked. No argument there.
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
3 Apr 2011   #51
what I meant earlier is basically that it doesn't matter where you're from as long as you're a good person.

I agree, but Slavs are always in-between, neither good, nor evil.

Again, you go back to the crappy government and not the scientists. I am not talking about the government. Everyone agrees it sucked. No argument there.

I know. And all I am trying to say is that Slavs are not smarter on average.

We are more intelligent, of course! Look at the Soviet Union.

No matter where you look, even in the space program: give Americans billions and they will blow the Milky Way. There is no intelligence as such, it is all financing.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641
3 Apr 2011   #52
I know. And all I am trying to say is that Slavs are not smarter on average.

But they are smarter than average.
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
3 Apr 2011   #53
Neither than, not on - Slavs are average.
guesswho  4 | 1272
3 Apr 2011   #54
I agree, but Slavs are always in-between, neither good, nor evil.

and I believe that Slavs or any other ethnic group can't be good or bad, Nathan, PP and guesswho can.
Eurola  4 | 1898
3 Apr 2011   #55
Slavs are just like all other people. Some are very smart, some are average and some are plain dumb.
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
3 Apr 2011   #56
and I believe that Slavs or any other ethnic group can't be good or bad, Nathan, PP and guesswho can.

Good point. In my regards, I am always good ;)

some are plain dumb.

Don't even dare to talk about Slavs like that...
Eurola  4 | 1898
3 Apr 2011   #57
Good is questionable state of being. You might be good in your own eyes and your close relationships, but bad when viewed by other people. The standards and the perception of YOU varies.
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
3 Apr 2011   #58
But when you are talking in absolute terms, I am good, no matter who tries to perceive me or the rich world inside me. No one can challenge that without facing miserable defeat :)
Eurola  4 | 1898
3 Apr 2011   #59
Don't even dare to talk about Slavs like that...

That's where you are wrong. EVERY ethnicity has a share of dumb. And, if you deny it - you are not living in reality.Not everybody everywhere is educated, not everybody everywhere has the same experiences you did.
OP Nathan  18 | 1349
3 Apr 2011   #60
I am just kidding, Eurola. I agree, we are all human and being dumb, smart or average is what everyone of us is in different periods of our life or at the same time in different or even the same circumstances.


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