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USA News and Poland - part 8


OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
4 Jan 2024 #331
they sabotage the very country they swore to uphold and protect?

That's why I called them "criminals" in #324.
In the history of this country, no government did as much damage as ours. If we are "democratic" in any sense of the word, I would like to know what it is.

You can see, that the reason you, Novi, and most other voting-age people are upset is because the changes within your lifetime have been truly dramatic.

That and three more things:

1. Total disregard for what the majority wants. Hello, the USSR...
2. Total loss of control over who is coming. It's chaos and lawlessness...
3. No end in sight...The supply of foreign human garbage that wants to come here is unlimited...

When I wake up, my first thought is ... oh, fvck. another 10,000 useless human waste in..and never out...
pawian 224 | 24,666
4 Jan 2024 #332
where we live gets snow and cold and people of color cannot withstand our climate of cold

But there is global warming so the climate is getting more hospitable for migrants. BTW, you are a racist swine for using of colour! Ha!

Thank you God.

Yes, isn`t it wonderful that new Americans are on the way to the US? They will be loyal citizens of their new country. Just give them a chance. Ha!
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
4 Jan 2024 #333
Astonishing moment Big Apple mayor holds up a picture of LA's Skid Row neighborhood ... - as city reels under migrant crisis, violent crime and lawlessness

Now the question is why anybody should defend the US from an invasion by China, for example ...
Bobko 25 | 2,153
4 Jan 2024 #334
Astonishing moment Big Apple mayor

NYC really is starting to struggle. Even NYC doesn't have this type of money.

We filled all our city hotels. We filled all the hotels in neighboring counties. Yet more keep coming.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
4 Jan 2024 #335
Yet more keep coming.

...forever...
I am disappointed about the few crimes and rapes by the "asylum seekers".

I want violence, riots, looting, arson, and assassinations of the super-rich...until the border is closed.
pawian 224 | 24,666
4 Jan 2024 #336
crimes and rapes

How many are too many?? Please, remind us your credo.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,067
4 Jan 2024 #337
Please, remind us your credo.

We know yours alright!
You love murderous rapist Muslims and hate Jews that retaliate against these evil bastards.
That makes you a Nazi Anti Semite.
Bobko 25 | 2,153
4 Jan 2024 #338
I am disappointed about the few crimes and rapes by the "asylum seekers".

Well that's true - they're not nearly as criminally-leaning as our own locals from places like East Harlem, the South Bronx, or Marcy Projects.

I told you guys, I have 1,500 of them living next to me in a hotel. It's mostly moms and kids. I have a hard time imagining them doing anything truly messy.

I'm not afraid anyone will rape me or mug me, though that might be an interesting experience.

I'm just afraid my city's budget is gonna burst under the strain, and people that have been living here forever will be left by the wayside in terms of assistance.
johnny reb 49 | 7,213
4 Jan 2024 #339
you are a racist

A proud racist

They will be loyal citizens

Mike's ass, Trump will be deporting them faster than a bullet.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
4 Jan 2024 #340
Let me re-state...

I want the very worst for NYC - except for Bobko.
AntV 5 | 691
4 Jan 2024 #341
@Bobko

What you're missing in your analysis Bobko is two extremely important points. The two points that make all the difference.

1. Much of the immigration that was happening prior to the 90's was controlled and legal. If my memory serves me correctly, net illegal immigration didn't start until 1990's-I may be incorrect and it started in 80's, but it wasn't near the numbers we see now.

2. This is the big one: today's immigrant isn't met by an American system that encourages, let alone demand, assimilation. We do not have the internal mechanisms we once did that turned immigrants into patriotic American citizens. Hell, our schools cater to the non-English speaking students by instructing them in Spanish or not demanding English proficiency.
pawian 224 | 24,666
4 Jan 2024 #342
Trump will be deporting

No. He won`t risk riots and bloodshed in streets. He is a wimp, in fact. The investigation into his role on instigating the Capitol siege has already taught him a lesson.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
4 Jan 2024 #343
Hell, our schools cater to the non-English speaking students

Reciting the Pledge of Allegiance and raising the US flag is now racist and xenophobic.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,067
4 Jan 2024 #344
I want the very worst for NYC - except for Bobko.

I don't care about NYC or Russians like Bobko who have to come to the west to make a decent living.He is a traitor to his own people.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
4 Jan 2024 #345
He is a traitor to his own people.

Where the hell does this come from? He has been the most loyal Russian I ever heard from.
AntV 5 | 691
4 Jan 2024 #346
@Novichok

It sounds like a make believe conspiracy, but those cases exist. To compare past immigration to America to what is happening today is comparing apples with rhinoceroses.
Bobko 25 | 2,153
4 Jan 2024 #347
today's immigrant isn't met by an American system that encourages, let alone demand, assimilation

This seems like an administrative issue, and an issue with yourselves. It is fully within your rights to demand and enforce these things.

immigration that was happening prior to the 90's was controlled and legal

I was maybe eight years old at the time (I've always been political), but even I remember how toxic the fights over immigration were between Gingrich and Clinton. It could not have been a new issue, it had to have roots in the 1980s. The data backs it up.

What you're missing in your analysis

Anything I wrote in a few paragraphs, will be missing crucial context. But you guys are also overlooking something. The capacity of people to fall in love with this country, over time.

15 years ago, I was one of those idiots that would go marching today in a Palestinian protest, or go and celebrate Obama's electoral victory in Harlem until 7 AM of the next day.

Now, when people visit me, I take them to Hyde Park in NY, and give them tours of the Roosevelt estate and his presidential library. If we are in DC, I take them to Mt Vernon, and give them a tour of Washington's grounds. I tell them about his years as a surveyor on the Virginia frontier, his struggles with Martha, how he set up a whiskey distillery.

I can have hour long debates about which of the Federalist essays was more impactful.

My folks and friends that visit me from abroad, tell me in disgust that I am more American than the Americans themselves.

It takes time.
AntV 5 | 691
4 Jan 2024 #348
. But you guys are also overlooking something. The capacity of people to fall in love with this country, over time.

Of course, but to leave it to whim is a dangerous gamble, especially in today's neo-Marxist environment. It's better to shape immigrants by teach ing them American citizenship. We don't do that anymore. Unfortunately, too many never leave the anti-Western marches or parties that celebrate anti-American presidents like you did. There are less Bobkos out there, and too many Ihlan Omar's.

Besides, immigration should be done within the framework of the law. That ain't happenin' on the Southern border.
Bobko 25 | 2,153
4 Jan 2024 #349
@AntV

If you don't "leave it to whim", you risk missing many Bobkos. Love for America - it strikes unexpectedly, and on an unpredictable schedule. People may come here with one reason, but stay for another.

It could be because some oily trucker at a rest stop in the middle of nowhere Tennessee, opened his heart to you over a cigarette. It could happen, over bonding with some roughnecks on the Permian Patch, while doing a due diligence for your firm. It could be after attending an employee's funeral, whose son died of an overdose.

To me, being an American is a badass thing to be. Just like being Russian. Because both places have big, big hearts.

I think most people think this way too. More than that, they want to feel proud to be American.

But for that it needs to be a country you can be proud of.

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Bobko 25 | 2,153
4 Jan 2024 #350
Also do you know what percent of your armed forces is made up of immigrants?

They're dying to defend your ass at home.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,067
4 Jan 2024 #351
Also do you know what percent of your armed forces is made up of immigrants?

HAhAhA!

A Russian moron is asking this stupid question........

Do you know what percent of the Russian armed forces are not ethnically Russian?

It matters....... big time!
Bobko 25 | 2,153
4 Jan 2024 #352
Do you know what percent of the Russian armed forces are not ethnically Russian?

Yes, and I honor their sacrifice and am proud that they are my compatriots. They are as much Russian as I am. If some idiot on the subway or somewhere else feels otherwise, I will help correct his views.
johnny reb 49 | 7,213
4 Jan 2024 #353
The investigation into his role on instigating the Capitol siege has already taught him a lesson.

That investigation has turned up that it was the Liberal democrats that instigated the Capitol siege.
See, you don't live here so all you get to read is the propaganda in the Liberal news media's.
We remember you camping on the 'collusion hoax' about Trump too.
Finally after four years of telling you it was a hoax the media couldn't deny it anymore.
You Eurps really need to get enlighted about how the Swamp rolls here.

raising the US flag is now racist

Yes, that is why I am now a proud racist.

Where the hell does this come from?

My guess would be the second bottle of wine.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
4 Jan 2024 #354
tell me in disgust that I am more American than the Americans themselves.

I don't wait for this moment but create it myself by saying the very same thing...choice or accident of birth...I win.

If some idiot on the subway or somewhere else feels otherwise, I will help correct his views.

Will he need medical attention when you are done correcting his views?
Bobko 25 | 2,153
4 Jan 2024 #355
Will he need medical attention when you are done correcting his views?

I am not physically unfit.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
4 Jan 2024 #356
Another double negative...I hate those.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,067
4 Jan 2024 #357
You Eurps really need to get enlighted

And you Yanks need to get enlightened about the fact that not all Europeans are the same.

Very few of us share the pervert Pawian's views.
Bobko 25 | 2,153
4 Jan 2024 #358
Another double negative...I hate those.

They can be crafted artfully and inartfully.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
4 Jan 2024 #359
Double negatives are meant to hide, not to inform. That's why I hate them.
johnny reb 49 | 7,213
5 Jan 2024 #360
To compare past immigration to America to what is happening today is comparing apples with rhinoceroses.

Spot on, past immigration wasn't letting tons of fentanyl killer drugs in, terrorist by the 10's of thousands, T.B. and other deceases, murderous gangs, out of control human trafficking and welfare scum.

Our goofy Leftist idiot only wants to focus on people that want a better life.
It's not my job to share what I have worked for when I have to go without free healthcare, free food, free rent education, and all the rest of the shlt that they are sucking out of our country's public trough that the American citizens have worked for, fought for and paid for.

These parasites contribute nothing to our society.


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