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Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa


mafketis
18 Mar 2023 #61
Quick! What's the difference between russian aide worker and a common criminal?

I don't know either....

russian who was doing 'reflief' work in Turkey stole a bunch of money and then tried to operate a kantor out of his apartment.... when the police showed up he tried throwing it out the window....

twitter.com/clashreport/status/1636823874946859009
Bratwurst Boy
18 Mar 2023 #62
I guess that embarrasses the Russians too....it was their FSB finding and getting him....
mafketis
18 Mar 2023 #63
that embarrasses the Russians too

You have to know what 'shame' is to be embarrassed... russians don't get embarrassed....
Korvinus
18 Mar 2023 #64
Remember that the soul of a Russian, if not everyone, then almost everyone, is consumed with the spirit of hatred for every free Pole and for the idea of a free Poland.

They are easily capable of feeling even great friendship and will love you sincerely and heartily, like a brother, until they feel that in your heart you are a free man and you are afraid of their love, in which the dominant element is the desire to take care of you, in other words: to have you in their power.

This is the birth defect of their soul, hereditary and several hundred years old, for their slavery, for the Tartars, for Ivan, for the oprichniki, for eternal rebellions drowned in blood.

If one's own freedom is unattainable, the freedom of others arouses envy and disgust. For centuries, we have been too painful a role model for them, a denial of their own fate. I fear it will be a long time before they understand that no one and nothing but death will take away our right to freedom...


Józef Piłsudski

jagiellonia.org/pilsudski-o-rosji-zawsze-bedzie-imperialistyczna/
pawian
18 Mar 2023 #65
the soul of a Russian, if not everyone, then almost everyone, is consumed with the spirit

The words about the Russian soul being consumed with spirit can be true. Many people in the West have always been intrigued by the "mysterious unpredictable Russian soul" and even admired it as a thrilling element of the overall Russian culture. There is nothing mysterious in it - people in Russia regularly act out of control coz they drink too much vodka which damages their brains. Foetuses already drink vodka with their expectant mothers. Simple.
Korvinus
21 Mar 2023 #66
I have had this perception that Russians as people in 90s were fine dudes. They didn't want to restore their empire, knew what a clusterfuck sh*ithole was Soviet Union, etc. etc. But now I wonder, maybe in the 90s I simply didn't know opinions of ordinary Russians. But now there is internet and I simply see more of their opinions. My first encounter of them mass calling someone nazi - was when Latvia or Lithuania moved some monument (year 2006-2007 or something) somewhere and internet Russians raged about that. That's the first time that I remember Russians being dumbfu*cks. I was like: wtf do they care what independent country does and where it moves it's monuments.
pawian
22 Mar 2023 #67
wtf do they care what independent country does and where it moves it's monuments.

That act of removing a Soviet monument was an act of disrespect to Russians. Being trampled and trodden on by their regime and its henchmen, they crave respect from foreigners. . Decades ago I read a reportage by a Polish journalist who travelled across Russia. Each time he drank vodka with locals, he was eventually asked the same question: Do you respect me???

That is some huge complex of Russians.
Alien
23 Mar 2023 #68
Do you respect me?

... and the answer was - after one bottle of your moonshine I respect everybody, even you.
pawian
23 Mar 2023 #69
after one bottle of your moonshine

I have always believed Russians don`t need to make their own vodka coz the one they get in shops is cheap and affordable even for the poor.
Alien
23 Mar 2023 #70
don`t need to make their own vodka

Making moonshine (samogon) is their national sport. Ask Bobco & Co.
Novichok
23 Mar 2023 #71
I was like: wtf do they care what an independent country does and where it moves its monuments...

There is a difference between a monument to commemorate Stalin and one to remember the ordinary Russians who died liberating Eastern Europe.
You can spin it any way you want but it was the "barbarians" who won WW2 and liberated Poland.

How do I know that? Easy. After the Soviets liberated Poland, nobody was pushed into a gas chamber anymore. And, as I said so many times before, nobody in my family was forced to belong to PZPR and never saw a single Soviet soldier.

All the dirty work was done by the Polish and Jewish collaborators.
pawian
23 Mar 2023 #72
it was the "barbarians" who won WW2 and liberated Poland.

First, in 1939, those barbarians had attacked and conquered Eastern Poland in collusion with Hitler who took the western and central parts. Later, Soviet barbarians murdered 22.000 Polish POWs.

if you consciously ignore it, you are a liar and manipulator. As usual. :):):)

All in all, we don`t need Soviet liberation monuments here. Cemeteries are a different matter as they are regulated by international law.
Novichok
23 Mar 2023 #73
Soviet barbarians murdered 22.000 Polish POWs.

How many civilian Koreans, Vietnamese and Iraqis did Western "democracies" murder? Try about 5 million. 5 million vs 22 thousand...Hmm...Let me get my handy calculator to divide one by the other.

First, in 1939, those barbarians had attacked and conquered Eastern Poland in collusion with Hitler

...and later had the deal sealed by Western "democracies". I forget...Was it in Yalta or Potsdam?
Miloslaw
23 Mar 2023 #74
How many civilian Koreans, Vietnamese and Iraqis did Western "democracies" murder?

Hahaha! As if you care!

...and later had the deal sealed by Western "democracies"

Don't be such a cynic, you know the truth behind all that.
Novichok
24 Mar 2023 #75
Hahaha! As if you care!

What the fu*ck my caring or not have to do with the raw and well-documented numbers?

Don't be such a cynic, you know the truth behind all that.

Yalta and Potsdam had nothing to do with me being a cynic almost 80 years later. How is that relevant?
Yes, I know the truth behind it. Western "democracies" and the USSR decided to move Poland closer to Berlin.
OP Bobko
24 Mar 2023 #76
Making moonshine (samogon) is their national sport. Ask Bobco & Co

Mhmm. In cities less and less, but in villages many houses will have their own unique recipes. Some add hard candy, others add jam, some dump straight sugar.
pawian
25 Mar 2023 #77
How many civilian Koreans, Vietnamese and Iraqis did Western "democracies"

And do you know of any monuments to Western democrats in the countries you mentioned??

No, you don`t.

That is why monuments to Soviet "democrats" who "liberated" Poland must go. Simple.
Novichok
25 Mar 2023 #78
Try about 5 million. 5 million vs 22 thousand.

22 thousand in Katyn...BFD...5 million killed by Western "democracies". VBD!
pawian
25 Mar 2023 #79
Even one victim of Soviet "liberators" allows Poles to pull down those sick monuments. Simple.
Novichok
25 Mar 2023 #80
Typical Polish stupidy with no upside.
That Warsaw Uprising mental disorder continues unabated...
pawian
25 Mar 2023 #81
Take it or leave it, darling. :):):)
Korvinus
25 Mar 2023 #83
it was the "barbarians" who won WW2 and liberated Poland.

In the end we fought Germany together in a large coalition, but not before countless Soviet atrocities committed against Poland & Poles, of which Katyn is merely the most known, but there were many others, like sending tens of thousands of civilian population to Siberia and Kazakhstan or Augustów Roundup.

And Soviets were part of anti-Nazi coalition only because Hitler backstabbed them in 1941. Before Barbarossa Stalin was perfectly happy to be Hitler's ally and supplier.
pawian
25 Mar 2023 #84
Soviets were part of anti-Nazi coalition only because Hitler backstabbed them in 1941. Before Barbarossa Stalin was perfectly happy to be Hitler's ally and supplier.

Novi perfectly knows all this. However, our forum darling feels compelled to provoke and flame. But we still love him coz he is OUR darling, nobody else`s. :):):)
Velund
25 Mar 2023 #85
Western "democracies" and the USSR decided to move Poland closer to Berlin.

But now, with the destruction of the last vestiges of the letter and spirit of the Yalta agreements, the time may come to push Poland back from Berlin, the capital of the German Democratic Republic.
pawian
25 Mar 2023 #86
to push Poland back from Berlin

???? What does it mean????
Novichok
25 Mar 2023 #87
Before Barbarossa Stalin was perfectly happy to be Hitler's ally and supplier.

The US and the UK were perfectly happy with Stalin as a dear ally.
Alien
25 Mar 2023 #88
What does it mean

Nothing good.
mafketis
26 Mar 2023 #89
happy with Stalin as a dear ally.

Why wouldn't they be? He killed lots of soviet citizens so they didn't have to!
Korvinus
26 Mar 2023 #90
with the destruction of the last vestiges of the letter and spirit of the Yalta agreements

What the fu*ck do you mean? Western allies have sold Poland in Yalta.
How "destruction of the last vestiges of the letter and spirit of the Yalta agreements" is a bad thing?


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