Is Islam a threat to western society?

@Przylotnyptak, you either misread my post or I misunderstood yours.

Honestly, there is a potential danger, but I think overall the danger is to Islam itself. Given that the Jihadist movement is strongest in their respective countries, and target mostly their fellow inhabitants of those nations. I have been recently watching and reading a good amount on religious philosophy and the problems pertaining to Islam in the modern era. The largest threat that I can see as of now is the lack out organized authority in the Islamic faith. Which allows for radicalization of actions through different interpretations of the texts. This can be dangerous for all involved, and does actively pose a danger to western societies but only through the actions of the radicalized militants. The Muslim living life doing their 9-5 and generally being peaceful isn't an active threat on western culture nor the overall safety of those nations.

There's a difference though between so to speak "traditional" Islam vs. "radical" Islam! My apologies for seeming to bandy
words, however, the distinction here might well be a concrete, not merely a semantic, one.

The difference is this:

Traditional Islamists are radical Islamists before their venom becomes lethal to the host - in quantity and strength.

The solution: Never, ever let these mother fvckers in...

@SirSlothiness

You talk a lot of sense about Islam.


And you talk a lot of nonsense about Islam.Traditional Islam still broadly supports Radical Islam.


Very true.

As to your final solution to never let these mother fvckers in..... it's a very simple solution.Why not vet those you let in more carefully?
And let less in, we don't need more immigration from anyone, let alone Muslims.

You are a genius...

The US government should have asked those 19 m-fers if they are the good guys or the bad guys who are planning to fly planes into tall buildings in America...

I will send an email to the FBI tomorrow.

Too cynical.Use your brain more.

Let me try another one on you since the last one flew over your head...

Next time a guy with "FSB" in his ID shows up at Kennedy, we should ask him if he came here for that famous Chicago deep dish pizza or to obtain information normally not available on the Internet.

Vetting Muslims will be just as effective. "Yes, I am a Muslim but I am totally harmless".

Trust me,NOTHING flows over my head as long as you speak proper English.


WTF is FSB?Please speak proper English.

I can't answer your question because your poor English means that I don't understand the question.

Even my cat knows what FSB is.

If you need a tutor, I charge 500 an hour. Try Bobko. He is an angel of love and patience.


The above sentence is lame. Plus, I didn't ask any questions since I know everything.

When I do ask, it's to nail to the wall some poor SOB who thought that he could outsmart me.

Like: When did you Brits have a referendum to decide if to admit more migrants?

I already know the answer but it's always fun to hear silence or some barf-inducing crap about "democratically elected legal representatives".

See Alien, Barney, or Tacitus for moral support. Avoid PAK.

Listen to Novichok

Furthermore, there is a difference between the Shiite Muslims as represented by the Iranian, the Saudis, the Iraqis or the Egyptians as opposed to the Sunni branch of Islam as represented traditionally by the Turks. Erdogan, so it seems, is an exception to the more liberal branch of Turkish Muslim beliefs from Bulent up through Tansu Cillar. The Shiites are much more extreme!

Very few citizens of Saudi Arabia (about 10%) are Shia almost all are Sunni. Egypt is nearly all Sunni too, Iraqis are split between Sunni in the North and Shia in the south.

If you want to find Shia, they're mostly in Iran, Azerbaijan, southern Iraq and in Turkey

Shia tend to be more mystical. Sunni just means Orthodox.

There is a third strand too, called Ibadi however they are small in number. Plus Alevis who make up half the urban population of Istanbul, and don't have mosques. They are very liberal.

According to certain commentators, many Egyptians remain boldly anti-Semitic, not merely anti-Israel.
Jewish tourists for a while were advised not even to visit Egypt on a day trip, as many had been attacked,
one killed. Turned out the latter was an Austrian visitor and not even Jewish.

Who gives a fvck...

I don't want any of these scumbags here...


...that's why...

All, pretty well.

It's a dangerous place for several reasons, ot really to do with religion.

Never justified based on Jewishness alone, Rich! Even you should be able to fathom that. LOL

Please find another poster to share your wisdom with...

There is no one left, you're scaring everyone away.

@Alien
This.

Only for two weeks more. We are about $700 short of the sum required to keep PF alive, so in two weeks time Novi will have to find another forum to troll. :)

Where is 'here'?


We'd better dip into our pockets. I'm sure Novi has already, being so rich from the 'American dream'.

Any other poster would be an improvement.

There are two definitions of "here":

1. Near me

2. The United States

...in that order...


...said a guy who can't write in everyman's English, didn't learn how to quote, and is unwilling to answer any questions as that would expose his hate for what normal people hold dear.

You assume that because I didn't quote, that I'm unable??
How did you ever come to that conclusion?

If you know but don't, it's worse as it makes you a slimy, sneaky snake that deliberately makes a normal conversation impossible and ends up a winner for lack of response.

It's the same as with the "No, it's not" idiot - playing the Supreme Being of the Universe who will not be bothered to step down and offer a more detailed response. FY!

I'm fine with Ukrainians, Belorussians, pinoys, Vietnamese, Cambodians, other SEA asians as long as we don't get pakis and not too many Indians.

Central Asians are a mixed bag but probably the best muslims out there since they're not actually very muslim.

And all LATAM's are welcome.

You probably mean Pakistani people.

You won't have a choice.

Among other things, a 24-year-old woman from Toruń was raped and murdered because such human scum as jon357. Smiling KO and leftists were running around with shopping bags at the border, calling for them to be let in en masse (like Hartwich or Ochojska) or saying that they are poor people who are looking for their place on earth (like Tusk or Trzaskowski) and here are the results. This scum came to Poland in February of this year, so this time it can't be blamed on PiS. It blows my mind how the visa scandal is being brought up in a situation where KO and co. are bringing in EVEN MORE legal immigrants. 2024 was a record year in this respect, but this year has already surpassed it (sic!), and it's only been less than half a year. So if you care about the lives and health of your loved ones, at least stock up on pepper spray.

The details of this murder are also completely omitted, and the crime itself is mitigated. There is no mention of rape (it was a sexual assault) or the fact that this degenerate did not have a knife, but a screwdriver, which he stuck in her eyes (actually gouged them out), and finally in her skull. What's more, there is an attempt to suppress information and she has most likely been dead for several days (that's why I wrote murder, not attempted murder). Censorship is in place, among other things, because they wanted to build an "immigrant integration center" and after this brutal attack, this item was deliberately removed from the Toruń city council meeting. Anyone who voted for the left/show has the blood of this woman on her hands. That's why only Grzegorz Braun and his Konfederacja Korony Polskiej.

Wtf.

This is not an immigration problem. It's a Polish problem. Where are your balls and where is your heart?

In Russia, Muslims are quieter than the brook, lower than the weeds.

In Russia, Muslims do not dare question Orthodoxy.

We are the only people in the world with orthodox Christian Muslims.