Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish

Damn, wasn't Heroes such a great Eurovision song?

I liked the Latvian song but the voters made sure it was political as always :)

In retrospect, a lot of gamblers must have won big on this result.


Ironside - you Poles don't get it. It is kitsch party fun vs political shenanighans. Superb fun all round. Terrible music, terrible production.
So, paradoxically brilliant!

7/1 on the Ukrainian song yesterday. I knew the juries would go for it for obvious screw-you-Russia reasons, but I didn't think the televote would go the same way.

Russians were so full of themselves before this, so it'll be ******* funny to watch their excuses for not turning up in Kyiv next year :D


Exactly! Anyone that doesn't see it for what it is - a perfect excuse to spend an evening laughing at the worst of what Europe has to offer really needs a sense of humour transplant.

Like the nationalist Poles who repeatedly rung in to vote for Poland? because nobody else would have:)))))))

I know an "army" of Polish nationalists, only one of them rang and even that's not confirmed yet.

I totally get what you're saying as it's that bad it's good, but haven't watched it for years now. I can't .......it's just so terrible ;)

Sure I don't get it so it must be down to my DNA. I have a better explanation some people have a refined taste and some are just a plebs at heart.

Not for me your plebeian kicks. :)


Must be your fellow plebeians, you should be more simpatico to them.


Alternatively you could read something to broaden your plebian horizon.


A very good point - they don't give a flying copulation about that diversion that our 'funny friends' on PF find so amusing.

It is a joke night and an excuse for a party Ironside. Delph and smurf have spelt it out for you, so you don't need to take my word for it. The Swedes get the joke. If Scandinavians (who generally have little humour as we know it) get it, it's frankly amazing that Poles don't.

But you had that laughable Sopot festival for years, so you actually enjoy, and analyse, the worst of pop music:)))

Is that show still about and kicking? It is crappy as well. I don't know if someone is actually watching it?


Come on Douglass there is no shame in having a plebian taste palate. No need for you to justify yourself, on the contrary - good for you - enjoy.

I don't think Ironside does parties, do you?

You didn't watch. Somebody tele voted for the Polish entry in huge, huge numbers.

It must have been the Serbians (according to "the Crow Theory of Fraternal Brotherhood"). My mother tried to teach me not to use sarcasm, as it is the lowest form of wit, but Poland today encourages it.

10 points from the UK televote, for instance ;)

Poland got 150 odd votes from televotes. All of them from Poles ringing repeatedly obviously. Meanwhile Putin threatens action:))

twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/731615208687435776

Do you have some evidence to back up that theory of yours? What your mother told you about jumping to conclusions?


Gossiping like washerwomen tsk tsk

The Polish song got 3 votes from the juries of 36 countries.
Maybe because it was crap? And then came third in the tele vote. So you are telling me that the Germans voted for it in their thousands? Or the Spanish? You obviously believe that the world is 6,000 years old in that case:)

Doesn't matter, it's still funny how you think that those who voted were nationalists.

What is funny is that some people would go to all that trouble and expense to push a song that is crap, just to "promote" their country. There are other, more productive, ways of doing that.

Looks like you much don't read the Polish media or listen to music radio stations - there was a big push here to encourage people living abroad to vote, printing the numbers to vote in various countries, asking people to remind their friends and relatives abroad, etc.


It was a dire song.

I wouldn't call that a conclusive proof. You still don't know how successful that trend was, and how many people in a given country called and who that relates to the Poles living aboard. There are many questions that would have needed to be addressed before you would have been able to give a reliable answer.

So far it just a guess or theory.
However I couldn't care less about Eurovision show or that showman from Poland, so deep is my desinteressement that I don't even know what place European wisdom granted to him.

People started to write a lot of BS on this thread and I just looked up who won. Tell you something, there is potential in that tripe if you are a betting man, damn I could have bet on that Ukrainian song. Too late now.

We do however know the facts of Polish emigration on the telephone vote in years past, and no reason to think that millions of Poles around Europe have suddenly stopped voting for Poland.

You are guessing to be exact. You can risk a guess that millions of Poles around Europe actually are a real factor that plays its role in influencing results of the phone vote! However you don't know how big a factor those votes actually are.

I mean I don't really care but don't say that you know if you only guess. Also Douglass's folly tells him that those Poles abroad who bothered to vote on that Polish song are nationalistic minded ones. What next? Can you tell they shoe number as well?

Merged: Australia and Israel should not be allowed to compete in Eurovision

Greedy Western European broadcasting corporations and whining Australians and Israelis came together and set up a deal that is a joke. Basically, whichever country is a member of European Broadcasting Union such nation can compete in Eurovision, what a f...g joke. The question then arises: is it about corporate membership or geographic settlement? Eurovision is meant to reflect European flavour that's why it's not called Asian or Jewish or Samoan vision but Eurovision. Everytime a non-European country gains a a vote Poland looses one and so does every other European country.

Who produces Eurovision? Ah, the EBU.

The only joke here is you for not understanding how the European Brodcasting Union works, pal.


Cry me a river, Ktos.

I still watch Eurovision because Americans are not competing in it. People stopped watching European MTV Awards as Americans started to take over in each European country as hosts, not to mention in many Western European countries the music charts have become so Americanised that it is all one way - not worth listening to. Let's hope that no more non-European nations enter Eurovision.

Eurovision is a shiite anyway.

It is nothing about music and all about politics.

No matter how bad you sing, if you are from a minority, you have extra points for "Diversity".

So if yoi are gay, muslim or physically challenged, you have extra points.

If you are Muslim/Gay AND physically challenged, then the trophy is yours.

It is about a number of things not only politics, music as well, but on PF everyone is an expert all of a sudden and knows exactly what Eurovision is for with great conviction.

One of the downsides of the forum being dominated by people who know/care nothing about Poland is that fun topics can't be covered....

Tonight is the Eurovision final!

Poland, predictably, failed to make the final when viewers didn't appreciate the bland dance number with crappy choreography which led to a lot of fun memes...

we need to cancel (the vote) we're losing

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When you reach your destination but don't get out of your car because Rafał Brozowski's "The Ride" is playing...

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Does anyone have any favorites?

Mine are currently Ukraine and Finland (best performances on the two semi-final nights) and maybe Switzerland, Malta... I want to like Italy but it just misses for me and I'm not sure what France's is all about....

Case in point:

Tonight's Eurovision host is a 190cm tall Dutch transvestite (a dude who after several operations and hormone therapies became a "woman") :

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I wish Germany could fail too before the final....or else it will be again "zero points".

Believe you me Poland, to not make it to the final is less humiliating than making it and to get no points, even from countries you thought were your friends (traitors)!

(The Brits know what I mean:)

PS: Eurovision ist trending #1 at Twitter right now....Europe is back! :)

The host of the Eurovision Song Contest was born as a man, at the age of 19 she became a woman

Popular Dutch make-up artist Nikkie de Jager, better known as Nikkie Tutorials, tried her hand at a leading role at this year's Eurovision Song Contest. This 190 centimeters tall 27-year-old is a famous youtuber who is followed by over 13 million people. At the beginning of last year, she shocked everyone when she discovered that she was born as a man and that she has been living as a transgender person for years. She shared her experience in a 17-minute video called I'm Coming Out.



"When I was 14, I started hormone therapy. At the age of 19, the transition process was over and I finally became a woman," Nikkie revealed, adding that someone threatened to reveal everything to the media, so she decided to gather courage and herself admit everything in the video.

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Nikkie is in a relationship with 26-year-old Dylan, and they got engaged in February this year.

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