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Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw



kaprys 1 | 1,334    
25 Mar 2018  #61

@Ironside
And how would you know? You don't live here. :)

OP jon357 69 | 13,456    
25 Mar 2018  #62

In short it is all propaganda

No, I-S, it is very real. Polish women came out in every city in Poland on Friday, for a strong yet peaceful protest.

Or any connection to women - I think they are all single guys

The ones spewing hatred of women don't get much female company.
Ironside 46 | 8,729    
25 Mar 2018  #63

Polish women came out

That is not true. You dabble in propaganda with this sentence. There were different people, different genders driven for the most part by an ideology.

There are in no way representative of Polish women, none elect them to act as such.

@jon357

for a strong yet peaceful protest.

It was a vulgar and ignorant crowd from what I have heard.
Ironside 46 | 8,729    
25 Mar 2018  #64

r any connection to women - I think they are all single guys

Ah look a jealous wimp crawled out from his obscurity. A Sad Beta male.

By the way is a nasty and bigoted thing to say to anyone.
I would say that greg is someone who had been hurt badly by a toxic woman or women.
Ziemowit 10 | 2,834    
25 Mar 2018  #65

Hardly any toxic to most of us. Roz, unlike you, a Pathetic Gamma Male, has always been a fair judge of everything on the PF lol.
Ironside 46 | 8,729    
25 Mar 2018  #66

Hardly any toxic to most of us.

huh?

Roz,

Are u that proverbial ash..hol that always take thing the wrong way and is out of the loop?

Pathetic Gamma Male,

you are u so beta that you grovel and act as a little sycophant to all female posters on PF. That is TRULY pathetic lol!

By the way being a master of gossip about posters on PF is not something I consider a worthy achievement.
OP jon357 69 | 13,456    
25 Mar 2018  #67

propaganda

There is no propaganda, I-S. This is simply reporting a very large grassroots protest by Polish women.

from what I have heard.

=

gossip

Slavictor 13 | 264    
25 Mar 2018  #68

In Poland, in English

The Face of Death

From a blog (not my words):

Reuters reports that on March 23, 2018, tens of thousands of Poles dressed in black protested across the country against a bill by the ruling conservative Law and Justice Party and the Catholic Church to ban most abortions.

A Warsaw city spokesman said about 55,000 people took part in the protest in the capital, the largest one in the country. Police gave a lower estimate at 20,000. Thousands of people participated in other major cities.

big quote cropped

fellowshipoftheminds.com/2018/03/25/55000-poles-march-in-warsaw-for-right-to-kill/
OP jon357 69 | 13,456    
25 Mar 2018  #69

A Warsaw city spokesman said about 55,000 people took part in the protest in the capital,

A very positive thing.
WielkiPolak 57 | 1,028    
25 Mar 2018  #70

Isn't it funny how when an event like this happens, people like to claim 'this shows that Polish women blah blah blah?' No it doesn't - it show that the Polish women who turned up have these views.

There are also many women who didn't show up, because they don't agree with the woman who did show up and have no problem with restricting abortion laws further.

Why do some people find it so hard to accept that people have different views in society? Some people think one thing, others think a different thing, hence democracy is the only real way to solve it. Stop trying to turn every protest in to a 'sign' that Polish people are against this, or fed up of that.

KOD protests were also covered all the time as 'this shows the Polish nation has had enough of the PiS dictatorial government.' It didn't show anything of the sort and opinion polls show this, with PiS always being way ahead of their opponents.
kaprys 1 | 1,334    
25 Mar 2018  #71

It just shows that Poles have different views. There was also a white protest although the attendance was much smaller.
Slavictor 13 | 264    
25 Mar 2018  #72

Why is the embrace Atheism sign written in English at a Polish rally in Poland. I wonder how many were paid to be there to pad the numbers. It costs money to have those signs made. Who pays for them. Let us not forget who funds and pulls the strings of FEMEN and PU$$YRIOT. "Movements" like this are seldom grassroots initiated.
OP jon357 69 | 13,456    
25 Mar 2018  #73

It just shows that Poles have different views.

Yes. All points of view around this issue are being expressed.

I wonder how many were paid to be there to pad the numbers.

None at all.
WielkiPolak 57 | 1,028    
25 Mar 2018  #74

None at all.

And you know this how Jon? Have you somehow confirmed this beyond any doubt with your own research?

Why is the embrace Atheism sign written in English at a Polish rally in Poland.

Good question. Probably because it's 'ulica i zagranica.' Not only do they want to take to the streets to protest but they want the world to be able to see how 'unhappy' people are in Poland under the 'tyrannical' Catholic party currently in charge.

As I already mentioned, the majority of people appear to be happy with who is in charge, hence why every poll that comes out shows PiS support 3 times as high as the closest opposition. But obviously the false message to foreign media and observers is 'Polish people are miserable, please help us, please find some way to impeach this tyrannical government.'
Crow 144 | 6,763    
25 Mar 2018  #75

Serbia with Polish woman!

Regards from Novi Sad
Slavictor 13 | 264    
25 Mar 2018  #76

This Irish Woman, in the service business, recently (in 2017) shared her opinion on abortion at a similar rally to the Polish one.

youtu.be/Q9S5QAsLebA
OP jon357 69 | 13,456    
26 Mar 2018  #77

Have you somehow confirmed this beyond any doubt with your own research?

Why would anyone need to do that, especially since there's no credible suggestion that anything of the sort took place.

It was an impressive show of opinion, huge crowds and a genuine grassroots happening.
Wulkan - | 3,313    
26 Mar 2018  #78

I wonder how many were paid to be there to pad the numbers.

Not many, mostly those having leading roles, those who give speeches etc. Big, professionally made signs are not cheap, they surely were covered too. Soros spent 18 billion dollars of his money lately, some of it went to Stefan Batory Foundation and from them to the rally, the route of the money is not that long.
delphiandomine 86 | 16,437    
26 Mar 2018  #79

There are also many women who didn't show up, because they don't agree with the woman who did show up and have no problem with restricting abortion laws further.

The vast majority are against it - most polls show around 80% of women are either satisfied with the current compromise or want the law liberalised. It's why PiS are in a no-win situation - if they push through a law that will anger centrist female voters, then they're going to be punished for it at the next election. If they don't pass the law, then they've got problems with the Church who expect payback for their implicit support over the last 10-15 years.
Atch 14 | 2,241    
26 Mar 2018  #80

This Irish Woman, in the service business, recently (in 2017) shared her opinion on abortion at a similar rally to the Polish one.

She's not Irish. That's an American accent. The rally was in Dublin though. But the banners were a bit wittier than the Polish ones as you'd expect, including "Keep your rosaries off my ovaries"!! :D

According to a report by the Workers' Solidarity Movement (whoever they are):

"The Abortion Rights Campaign organised a wide variety of speakers who discussed many aspects of the pro-choice struggle, including political intersections with migrant and indigenous ethnic minorities in Ireland, queer and trans struggles, and sex worker struggles, as well as two musical acts. "

Now that sort of thing irritates me. Using the abortion issue as an excuse to bang on about totally unrelated issues on the pretext that it's all part of the great 'struggle'. The 'as well as two musical acts' bit really cracked me up, hilarious. Also the minorities referred to, have little cause for complaint as they're pretty well treated in Ireland on the whole.

Actually the people who organized that rally in Dublin, The Abortion Rights Campaign, received a donation of 23,000 dollars from Soros and were instructed by the Irish government to return it, which they did but only under threat of a Garda referral. Irish organizations are not allowed to accept donations which may be used for 'political purposes'.
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,516    
26 Mar 2018  #81

queer and trans struggles,

ah yes the 'trans' lot cant resist jumping on other people's bandwagons to make their point. Whatever it is..
WielkiPolak 57 | 1,028    
26 Mar 2018  #82

Now that sort of thing irritates me. Using the abortion issue as an excuse to bang on about totally unrelated issues on the pretext that it's all part of the great 'struggle'.

Oh but the left does this a lot. I've seen it in America many times. During the women's march in the USA, not only did it turn out to be more of a march against Trump, that I suppose if pushed, you could say was in some way related to women being mistreated given the negative perception of some of the comments he has made in the past, but there were also Black Lives Matter signs and gender neutrality stuff - like you say, stuff that had nothing to do with the march. It's almost as if people just throw all the left wing ideas in to one bag, no matter what the protest is specifically about, and then bring them up. It's laughable.
OP jon357 69 | 13,456    
26 Mar 2018  #83

most polls show around 80% of women are either satisfied with the current compromise or want the law liberalised. It's why PiS are in a no-win situation

This could well turn into a snowball effect.

"Keep your rosaries off my ovaries"

As an elderly and rather conservative lady I know says about the current PiS debacle "Moja pizda, moja decyzja".
WielkiPolak 57 | 1,028    
26 Mar 2018  #84

I highly doubt an elderly conservative lady would say that Jon, so you can stop lying. Sounds much more like something an elderly leftist would shout during a march, setting a great example to the young adolescents around her.
Ironside 46 | 8,729    
26 Mar 2018  #85

Now that sort of thing irritates me.

Why? After all abortion is an issue supported by commies and all sort of radical revolutionary moments with tendency to totlitarysm. Which should tell you that you're wrong if you are a decent person with some sense.

But the banners were a bit wittier

Really? Should I put my dick on the table and tell women as you have no balls you should stay in the kitchen where you belong?

Nothing witty about obsession of those crazy commie women with their vaginas.. Keep your vaginas private unless you're ho/.
OP jon357 69 | 13,456    
26 Mar 2018  #86

I highly doubt an elderly conservative lady

Feel free to 'highly doubt' Grown-ups can sometimes surprise you.

The successful march was a good reflection of the educated population of Warsaw.
Ironside 46 | 8,729    
26 Mar 2018  #87

Feel free to 'highly doubt'

Well, I tell you that is a language no lady would use be conservative or not. I guess you mean conservative like on the right off Mao.

That ain't conservative that is all an old commie.
OP jon357 69 | 13,456    
26 Mar 2018  #88

Well, I tell you

You tell wrong. Polish women can be very direct sometimes; and this is one issue about which there is genuine strength of feeling.

Remember you abandoned Poland a long time ago; you would be doubtless surprised that things aren'y the same as 30 years back.
WielkiPolak 57 | 1,028    
26 Mar 2018  #89

The successful march was a good reflection of the educated population of Warsaw.

Ha! Keep trying.
OP jon357 69 | 13,456    
26 Mar 2018  #90

No need to, since it's a simple statement of fact.

I suspect that since you are neither a resident of Warsaw or particularly educated, this is an abstract issue for you. For the Polish women who came out in their tens of thousand to express their very strong feelings it is not abstract; it is something that affects their lives directly.




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