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Ruling PiS party tried to cover up eco disaster in Odra River


Tacitus 2 | 1,712
17 Aug 2022 #61
On the bright side , PiS has accorsing to my knowledge not tried to blame Germany for this disaster. Probably because they can not deny in which direction the rivee is running.
Novichok 4 | 7,121
17 Aug 2022 #62
not tried to blame Germany for this disaster.

...because it's Putin's fault...hahahahaha...
johnny reb 40 | 7,725
17 Aug 2022 #63
Over ten tons of dead fish have been removed so far from the Odra.
jon357 71 | 21,113
17 Aug 2022 #64
how helpless are those PiS gangsters when it comes to dealing with such problems

It's on the news right round the world now, including here in Africa.
Kashub1410 5 | 590
17 Aug 2022 #65
Read recently that another river in Germany is seen with a lot of dead fish too, with regard to a German factory. Don't know if it's correlated, odd tho.
Tacitus 2 | 1,712
17 Aug 2022 #66
Which river? The Rhine has historically low water due to the ongoing drought, but there is no pollution I am aware of.

Don't know if it's correlated

Of course not. How would any kind of pollution from the German side magically teleport close to Wroclaw and then make its' way up to the sea?
Kashub1410 5 | 590
17 Aug 2022 #67
@Tacitus
Seems like I can't find the article so I can't confirm my source of information. Please ignore it.

With regard to transport of such fishes, companies can go great lengths as not to lose stockholders :)

But for now, can only relate to the information that is aveliable
OP pawian 202 | 21,101
17 Aug 2022 #68
Seems like I can't find the article so I can't confirm my source of informatio

I read that article, a small river called Saale in Saxony Anhalt, a few hundred dead fish
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,297
17 Aug 2022 #69
The Oder is dead! The river will need up to 15 years to heal again...no words! 😥
GefreiterKania 25 | 1,102
17 Aug 2022 #70
Horrible... if PiS doesn't find and punish the perpetrators that will be a huge nail to their political coffin. They set up an award of 1 million pln (over 200k euro) for information about the source of toxic pollution.
feestree
17 Aug 2022 #71
what a tragedy, the Oder river is a key waterway for Wroclaw, could be Russia, who knows?
jon357 71 | 21,113
17 Aug 2022 #72
could be Russia

Could be, however this is frankly very unlikely.

It's more likely to be illegal industrial discharge or dumping chemicals by someone local.

Doubtless if the source of the contamination is found, there will be a protection.

Unless it's a PiS crony, in which case they'll probably try to cover it up as usual.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,297
17 Aug 2022 #73
stench and mysterious discoloration: on the Oder with the "carcass fishermen"

focus.de/panorama/welt/focus-online-vor-ort-gestank-und-mysterioese-verfaerbungen-auf-der-oder-mit-den-kadaver-fischern_id_136650822.html

South of Szczecin, the mysterious death of fish in the Oder is getting worse. Volunteer firefighters pull hundreds of kilos of dead zander, pike and whitefish out of the river. Now they also report strange discolorations on the dead fish; and no one can explain them.

Discolorations? Isn't that a sign of poisoning?
jon357 71 | 21,113
17 Aug 2022 #74
Discolorations? Isn't that a sign of poisoning?

Usually yes. At least in mammals.

It really does sound like industrial discharge.

The question is, where from?
Miloslaw 15 | 4,668
17 Aug 2022 #75
It's more likely to be illegal industrial discharge or dumping chemicals by someone local

My thoughts exactly.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,297
18 Aug 2022 #76
In Silesia

Mystery of the poisoned Or solved? Mining group discharged salt water

bz-berlin.de/brandenburg/raetsel-der-vergifteten-oder-geloest-bergbau-konzern-leitete-salzwasser-ein

German and Polish authorities are still puzzling over the reason for the mass deaths of fish in the Oder. Now a Polish politician announces: A Silesian mining company is the possible cause of the ecological catastrophe!

....
The mining group KGHM has piped huge amounts of salt water into the Oder near Glogau (Silesia), MP Piotr Borys from the liberal opposition alliance KO reported on Thursday in the Polish daily newspaper "Gazeta Wyborcza".

KGHM mines copper, silver, but also rock salt. Waste water is produced during processing.

After an inspection visit, politician Borys explained: Between July 29 and August 10, large quantities of salt water flowed from the KGHM mines via the Zelazny Most reservoir into the Oder. ...


🥺
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,313
18 Aug 2022 #77
They talk about algae or some are talking about low water level that exposed some toxins they are leftovers from the WWII.

MP Piotr Borys from the liberal opposition alliance KO

I wouldn't listen to him. Those people are proven liars.
OP pawian 202 | 21,101
18 Aug 2022 #78
algae low water level toxins from the WWII.

This or that, whatever. The accusation remains as it was posed in the thread name - PiS rightards tried to cover it all up.

I wouldn't listen to him

Of course you are so awfully biased against the opponents of PiS.

PiS rightards tried to cover it all up.

Even Venerable former Prime Minister Mr Tusk said it:

Tusk referred to the disaster on the Odra River and criticized the PiS government for its ineffective actions around the ecological crisis . - Unfortunately, all signs indicate that the authorities are ignoring the problem and are doing everything to hide something. This is somewhat reminiscent of - but on a much larger scale - the respirator scandal. The stench of not only dead fish, but the stench surrounding the whole matter spreads all over Poland - he said.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,297
19 Aug 2022 #79
They talk about algae

Yeah....here now too:

Poison from golden algae detected in the Oder

spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/oder-gift-von-goldalgen-nachgewiesen-a-65897d16-ec26-442d-a00a-25c5c258303f

Analyzes confirm the suspicion that the poison of an algal species widespread in the Oder is behind the fish and mussel deaths. The golden alga is a natural phenomenon, but not in a freshwater river. ....

Now it is clear what was fatal to the animals in the Oder: a species of algae that is native to brackish water, which consists of salt and fresh water. The assumptions about the suspected cause of the mass death of fish, mussels and snails have thus been confirmed the Leibniz Institute for Freshwater Ecology and Inland Fisheries (IGB) on Friday in Berlin. The algae species Prymnesium parvum do not occur in large numbers under natural conditions on the affected river sections. To do this, they need a salt content that can only be caused by industrial discharges. ....

feestree
19 Aug 2022 #80
so the industrial discharge of salt water into the Oder caused the deadly algae to bloom and kill all the fish? Nail that polluter! Pis must do this to save face
OP pawian 202 | 21,101
20 Aug 2022 #81
Nail that polluter! Pis must do this to save face

They won`t nail anyone if that was done by a state company. PiS, taking power in 2015, put their people in the boards of all state companies. Some of them hold positions in a few boards. There are dozens of articles describing PiS leeches sucking onto Polish state assets and becoming millionaires in result. Yuk!
jon357 71 | 21,113
20 Aug 2022 #82
They won`t nail anyone if that was done by a state company

True, however the river Odra is of course not solely a Polish matter being on an international border.

The authorities on the other side have little incentive to cover up any misdeeds them may find relating to the eastern side of their shared river.
amiga500 3 | 1,260
20 Aug 2022 #83
They won`t nail anyone if that was done by a state company

But what if it was a company that was tied into the local area? which on a municpal and both levels above is controlled by PO? then whatcha gonna do?
OP pawian 202 | 21,101
20 Aug 2022 #84
that was tied into the local area?

If the area is PiS controlled, they will try to hush it down. If not, they will blow it out of all proportions.
OP pawian 202 | 21,101
29 Aug 2022 #85
After exactly one month the PiS govt is still doing their best to sweep the disaster scandal under the carpet.

Thank God, their incompetent handling of the crisis resulted in lower poll results.

The stench of not only dead fish, but the stench surrounding the whole matter spreads all over Poland - he said.

Exactly and will affect the support for PiS.
Lernende
28 Jan 2023 #86
stubbornly claimed nothing serious had happened

This wasn't well received in Germany.
OP pawian 202 | 21,101
29 Jan 2023 #87
And we still don`t know what caused the disaster. Amasing.


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