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Ruling PiS party tried to cover up eco disaster in Odra River


Tacitus  2 | 1274
17 Aug 2022   #61
On the bright side , PiS has accorsing to my knowledge not tried to blame Germany for this disaster. Probably because they can not deny in which direction the rivee is running.
Novichok  5 | 8514
17 Aug 2022   #62
not tried to blame Germany for this disaster.

...because it's Putin's fault...hahahahaha...
johnny reb  48 | 7984
17 Aug 2022   #63
Over ten tons of dead fish have been removed so far from the Odra.
jon357  73 | 23224
17 Aug 2022   #64
how helpless are those PiS gangsters when it comes to dealing with such problems

It's on the news right round the world now, including here in Africa.
Kashub1410  6 | 580
17 Aug 2022   #65
Read recently that another river in Germany is seen with a lot of dead fish too, with regard to a German factory. Don't know if it's correlated, odd tho.
Tacitus  2 | 1274
17 Aug 2022   #66
Which river? The Rhine has historically low water due to the ongoing drought, but there is no pollution I am aware of.

Don't know if it's correlated

Of course not. How would any kind of pollution from the German side magically teleport close to Wroclaw and then make its' way up to the sea?
Kashub1410  6 | 580
17 Aug 2022   #67
@Tacitus
Seems like I can't find the article so I can't confirm my source of information. Please ignore it.

With regard to transport of such fishes, companies can go great lengths as not to lose stockholders :)

But for now, can only relate to the information that is aveliable
OP pawian  221 | 26015
17 Aug 2022   #68
Seems like I can't find the article so I can't confirm my source of informatio

I read that article, a small river called Saale in Saxony Anhalt, a few hundred dead fish
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
17 Aug 2022   #69
The Oder is dead! The river will need up to 15 years to heal again...no words! 馃槬
GefreiterKania  31 | 1433
17 Aug 2022   #70
Horrible... if PiS doesn't find and punish the perpetrators that will be a huge nail to their political coffin. They set up an award of 1 million pln (over 200k euro) for information about the source of toxic pollution.
feestree
17 Aug 2022   #71
what a tragedy, the Oder river is a key waterway for Wroclaw, could be Russia, who knows?
jon357  73 | 23224
17 Aug 2022   #72
could be Russia

Could be, however this is frankly very unlikely.

It's more likely to be illegal industrial discharge or dumping chemicals by someone local.

Doubtless if the source of the contamination is found, there will be a protection.

Unless it's a PiS crony, in which case they'll probably try to cover it up as usual.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
17 Aug 2022   #73
stench and mysterious discoloration: on the Oder with the "carcass fishermen"

focus.de/panorama/welt/focus-online-vor-ort-gestank-und-mysterioese-verfaerbungen-auf-der-oder-mit-den-kadaver-fischern_id_136650822.html

South of Szczecin, the mysterious death of fish in the Oder is getting worse. Volunteer firefighters pull hundreds of kilos of dead zander, pike and whitefish out of the river. Now they also report strange discolorations on the dead fish; and no one can explain them.

Discolorations? Isn't that a sign of poisoning?
jon357  73 | 23224
17 Aug 2022   #74
Discolorations? Isn't that a sign of poisoning?

Usually yes. At least in mammals.

It really does sound like industrial discharge.

The question is, where from?
Miloslaw  21 | 5181
17 Aug 2022   #75
It's more likely to be illegal industrial discharge or dumping chemicals by someone local

My thoughts exactly.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
18 Aug 2022   #76
In Silesia

Mystery of the poisoned Or solved? Mining group discharged salt water

bz-berlin.de/brandenburg/raetsel-der-vergifteten-oder-geloest-bergbau-konzern-leitete-salzwasser-ein

German and Polish authorities are still puzzling over the reason for the mass deaths of fish in the Oder. Now a Polish politician announces: A Silesian mining company is the possible cause of the ecological catastrophe!

....
The mining group KGHM has piped huge amounts of salt water into the Oder near Glogau (Silesia), MP Piotr Borys from the liberal opposition alliance KO reported on Thursday in the Polish daily newspaper "Gazeta Wyborcza".

KGHM mines copper, silver, but also rock salt. Waste water is produced during processing.

After an inspection visit, politician Borys explained: Between July 29 and August 10, large quantities of salt water flowed from the KGHM mines via the Zelazny Most reservoir into the Oder. ...


馃ズ
Cojestdocholery  2 | 986
18 Aug 2022   #77
They talk about algae or some are talking about low water level that exposed some toxins they are leftovers from the WWII.

MP Piotr Borys from the liberal opposition alliance KO

I wouldn't listen to him. Those people are proven liars.
OP pawian  221 | 26015
18 Aug 2022   #78
algae low water level toxins from the WWII.

This or that, whatever. The accusation remains as it was posed in the thread name - PiS rightards tried to cover it all up.

I wouldn't listen to him

Of course you are so awfully biased against the opponents of PiS.

PiS rightards tried to cover it all up.

Even Venerable former Prime Minister Mr Tusk said it:

Tusk referred to the disaster on the Odra River and criticized the PiS government for its ineffective actions around the ecological crisis . - Unfortunately, all signs indicate that the authorities are ignoring the problem and are doing everything to hide something. This is somewhat reminiscent of - but on a much larger scale - the respirator scandal. The stench of not only dead fish, but the stench surrounding the whole matter spreads all over Poland - he said.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
19 Aug 2022   #79
They talk about algae

Yeah....here now too:

Poison from golden algae detected in the Oder

spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/oder-gift-von-goldalgen-nachgewiesen-a-65897d16-ec26-442d-a00a-25c5c258303f

Analyzes confirm the suspicion that the poison of an algal species widespread in the Oder is behind the fish and mussel deaths. The golden alga is a natural phenomenon, but not in a freshwater river. ....

Now it is clear what was fatal to the animals in the Oder: a species of algae that is native to brackish water, which consists of salt and fresh water. The assumptions about the suspected cause of the mass death of fish, mussels and snails have thus been confirmed the Leibniz Institute for Freshwater Ecology and Inland Fisheries (IGB) on Friday in Berlin. The algae species Prymnesium parvum do not occur in large numbers under natural conditions on the affected river sections. To do this, they need a salt content that can only be caused by industrial discharges. ....

feestree
19 Aug 2022   #80
so the industrial discharge of salt water into the Oder caused the deadly algae to bloom and kill all the fish? Nail that polluter! Pis must do this to save face
OP pawian  221 | 26015
20 Aug 2022   #81
Nail that polluter! Pis must do this to save face

They won`t nail anyone if that was done by a state company. PiS, taking power in 2015, put their people in the boards of all state companies. Some of them hold positions in a few boards. There are dozens of articles describing PiS leeches sucking onto Polish state assets and becoming millionaires in result. Yuk!
jon357  73 | 23224
20 Aug 2022   #82
They won`t nail anyone if that was done by a state company

True, however the river Odra is of course not solely a Polish matter being on an international border.

The authorities on the other side have little incentive to cover up any misdeeds them may find relating to the eastern side of their shared river.
amiga500  5 | 1527
20 Aug 2022   #83
They won`t nail anyone if that was done by a state company

But what if it was a company that was tied into the local area? which on a municpal and both levels above is controlled by PO? then whatcha gonna do?
OP pawian  221 | 26015
20 Aug 2022   #84
that was tied into the local area?

If the area is PiS controlled, they will try to hush it down. If not, they will blow it out of all proportions.
OP pawian  221 | 26015
29 Aug 2022   #85
After exactly one month the PiS govt is still doing their best to sweep the disaster scandal under the carpet.

Thank God, their incompetent handling of the crisis resulted in lower poll results.

The stench of not only dead fish, but the stench surrounding the whole matter spreads all over Poland - he said.

Exactly and will affect the support for PiS.
Lernende
28 Jan 2023   #86
stubbornly claimed nothing serious had happened

This wasn't well received in Germany.
OP pawian  221 | 26015
29 Jan 2023   #87
And we still don`t know what caused the disaster. Amasing.
OP pawian  221 | 26015
23 Sep 2023   #88
Certain ngo organisation led by a known theatre director is suing the Polish Police for 1 million PLN promised publicly to anybody who reveals the perpetrators of the Odra River pollution.

PiS police refuse to pay. They are like PiS - liars and cheaters. Apple falling from a tree very closely.......
polityka.pl/tygodnikpolityka/spoleczenstwo/2228446,1,wskazali-odpowiedzialnych-za-zatrucie-odry-ale-policja-nie-wyplacila-nagrody-ida-do-sadu.read?src=mt

The Central Foundation and its president, theater director Micha艂 Zadar, applied to the Chief Commander of the Police for payment of a reward of PLN 1 million - awarded by him a year ago for identifying those responsible for the Odra poisoning. The foundation identified those responsible, but did not receive the money. After several exchanges of letters and a pre-trial demand for payment, the Foundation and the law firm Dubois i Wsp贸lnicy representing it take the case to court. The payment deadline was September 20.

In August 2022, at the height of the ecological disaster on the Odra River, the Police Commander-in-Chief, General Jaros艂aw Szymczyk, offered a reward of PLN 1 million for "indicating the person responsible for polluting the river or providing information relevant to identifying the perpetrators." Information about the award was published in a short post on Twitter and on the websites of all police headquarters across the country. It was also published by the media, especially local and regional ones, along with a telephone number to contact. In February 2023, it turned out that the reward had not been paid, although several hundred people reported to the police claiming that they had information important for solving the case and arresting the perpetrators of poisoning the second river in Poland. Therefore, the Central Foundation and its head theater director, Micha艂 Zadara, decided to claim this PLN 1 million prize. They clearly state that state institutions are obliged to fulfill their promises and refer to Art. 919 搂1 of the Civil Code: "Whoever, by public announcement, promises a reward for performing a specified activity is obliged to keep the promise."

We reported the people responsible for polluting the Odra: these are undoubtedly ministers Henryk Kowalczyk and Marek Gr贸barczyk; Jastrz臋bska Sp贸艂ka W臋glowa, whose president is Tomasz Cudny; Polska Grupa G贸rnicza, whose president is Tomasz Rogala; the then president of W贸d Polskie, Przemys艂aw Daca, and the then Chief Inspector of Environmental Protection, Micha艂 Mistrza; Minister of Climate and Environment Anna Moskwa and the voivodes of Opole, Lower Silesia, Lubusz and West Pomerania, i.e. S艂awomir K艂osowski, Jaros艂aw Obremski, W艂adys艂aw Dajczak and Zbigniew Bogucki- enumerates Micha艂 Zadara, adding that the list ends with Mateusz Morawiecki, the prime minister of the government, who is responsible for the officials subordinate to him. He reminds us that during the disaster on the Odra River, Morawiecki dismissed both President Daca and Inspector Mistrzak. - This is probably the best proof that the Prime Minister was perfectly aware of their responsibility for the lack of appropriate actions that would have first prevented the disaster and then reduced its scale.



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