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Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates


Lenka 3 | 2,558
20 Jun 2020 #1,381
Korwin-Mikke spoke about it and said that more or less "women shouldn't be forced to give birth to disabled children"

Well Bosak has dramatically different opinion and let's be honest- he is the candidate and the future. Korwin- Mikke is an old pr*ck and will be gone sooner rather then later. Not to mention his usual grace...
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
20 Jun 2020 #1,382
Driving in the countryside today for a few hours I didn't see a single Duda poster. In fact not many at all, what I'd do see as for Holownia and KK. So turnout could be low there
Zlatko
20 Jun 2020 #1,383
I fear that if the US moves its army bases from Germany to Poland, Poles might suffer from increased terrorism like the Ansbach bombing. Also there are rumkrs the US forces have atomic weapons and in case of use the host country will suffer.
mafketis 24 | 9,361
20 Jun 2020 #1,384
I didn't see a single Duda poster

Where I am there are a few Duda posters but I see more for Hołownia and Trzaskowski...
Ironside 50 | 10,935
20 Jun 2020 #1,385
nd "English" doesn't (

the thing is as you well know there are all kinds of English out there, I know you're talking about American English and I agree with you. However it was delph that asked that question and I'm kind of suspired he needed to ask as district would work well for him.

Thing is there are Australia, Canada, New Zealand Britain and Ireland - they don't have unified vocabulary. So existing words have different meaning as you well should know.🤦‍♂️

a few Duda posters

Makes no difference, there is no doubt at the stage that Duda will get to the second round and if he does it means he is going to win, with 96% probability.
Spike31 2 | 2,099
20 Jun 2020 #1,386
Korwin- Mikke is an old pr*ck and will be gone sooner rather then later

That's ageism :-D
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
21 Jun 2020 #1,387
I think PiS is making these promises because the feel it slipping away from them. The smaller communities are no longer the "stronghold" for PiS that they used to be. Otherwise, they wouldnt need to make these promises for new equipment. Then they alienate themselves further from people in larger cities. I also think PiS knows that the Poles they brought home during the beginning of the virus are not voting for them.

PiS and JK are many things, but they are not stupid political tacticians. This smells of desperation. The big and medium sized cities are clearly lost to them. I am simply baffled at why they haven't come up with one thing to try to generate some cross over votes. The same message over and over to the same audience. Nothing to get to the important segments of voters they have lost, like young professionals and business owners. Nothing that students would be interested in. If new blood is not flowing in a party the party eventually dies. It really is a puzzling strategy.
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
21 Jun 2020 #1,388
The topic of presidential elections has been undergoing kaleidescope-like shifting recently.
Definitely it has been a good move to replace Kidawa Błońska with Trzaskowski. I don`t want to sound chavinistic but it seems he has bigger balls than her. :):) And that`s a must in the Polish politics right now coz I read an interview with a psychologist who claimed that both Poles and Polesses prefer a male president. For the time being..... :):)
Lenka 3 | 2,558
21 Jun 2020 #1,389
Here is something for those undecided who they should vote for:
latarnikwyborczy.pl/ankieta/#25
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
21 Jun 2020 #1,390
The topic of presidential elections has been undergoing kaleidescope-like shifting recently.

Marcin Palade's latest forecasts:

First round:

Duda 42.7%
Trzaskowski 29.1%
Hołownia 9.3%
Bosak 7.9%
Kosiniak-Kamysz 6.7%
Biedroń 3.2%

Second round: includes Polonia and those who voted for a different candidate in the first round, does *not* include new voters.

Duda 8,832,000 (50.9%)
Trzaskowski 8,529,000 (49.1%)

==

If we assume that Palade is accurate, then Duda has a slight advantage. The number that I've been stating all along - 42% - appears to be the magic number in the 1st round. Right now, PiS appear to be making mistake after mistake, and Duda's campaign has completely stalled. Even the attempts to smear Trzaskowski as a liar were very quickly met with a list of Duda's broken promises, and it seems that every attack by Duda is hurting him more than helping him
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
21 Jun 2020 #1,391
The number that I've been stating all along - 42% - appears to be the magic number in the 1st round.

The emotions are so hot and high that any guessing about results might be heavily flawed. I am going to wait and see what happens. I will accept any results on condition they are not rigged by PiS. I know those neobolshevik gangsters are ready to do everything to get their President.
Crow 146 | 9,109
21 Jun 2020 #1,392
My dear dear and noble Polish brethren, parliamentarian, and local elections are finished in Serbia, this evening. Presidential elections are in front of you in Poland but know this. After this elections in Serbia, Serbia is stronger but Poland is also stronger. Our mutual cause for united Central Europe is closer.
Spike31 2 | 2,099
21 Jun 2020 #1,393
@pawian is back. Where were you hiding from the plague?

I will accept any results

Good. I imagine that if you wouldn't accept it we would have to do the voting all over again ;-)
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
21 Jun 2020 #1,394
@pawian is back

As always.

Where were you hiding from the plague?

I have been working as a Christian volunteer at an old people`s home. Why?

I imagine that if you wouldn't accept it

:):) I meant I won`t whine or complain or call Duda voters brainwashed morons etc etc.
Distressed
21 Jun 2020 #1,395
Please don't vote for Duda - everyone is better than this puppet.
Ironside 50 | 10,935
21 Jun 2020 #1,396
everyone is better than this puppet.

No, not factual, not really, there are plenty worse.
mafketis 24 | 9,361
22 Jun 2020 #1,397
there are plenty worse.

Well fortunately there are a couple of candidates who are far better than the puppet on a string.

It's objectively bad government for a president to be so pliable and weak.
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
22 Jun 2020 #1,398
The best option is the balance of powers within the ruling class.
Crow 146 | 9,109
22 Jun 2020 #1,399
Please don't vote for Duda - everyone is better than this puppet.

Such a bluntly comment. But he proved to be cooperative. It's promising, you know.
mafketis 24 | 9,361
22 Jun 2020 #1,400
Some Polish guy pretending to be an American (it takes about a millionth of a second to hear that he is not) tries to talk to Trzaskowski with hilarious results.

wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/wybory-2020-zaskakujaca-konfrontacja-trzaskowskiego-z-wyborca-po-angielsku/7f3vr93
Ziemowit 13 | 4,272
22 Jun 2020 #1,401
I won`t whine or complain or call Duda voters brainwashed morons

They are brainwashed morons. What's the problem with calling them by their name?
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
22 Jun 2020 #1,402
That is an atrocious American accent. Where's Max Golonka when you need him ?

The worst thing is these troll fools are being funded by our taxes.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
22 Jun 2020 #1,403
Another poll.

First round:

Duda: 41.5%
Trzaskowski: 28.3%
Hołownia: 8.6%
K-Kamysz: 8%
Bosak: 5.4%
Biedroń: 2.2%

Second round:

Trzaskowski: 46.9%
Duda; 45.8%
Undecided: 4.4%
Won't vote (if those two make it to the second round): 3%

Two main stories here.

1) Duda and Trzaskowski aren't moving. Duda isn't shifting from 40-42%, nor is Trzaskowski moving from 28-30%, suggesting that voters have largely made up their minds. It's also clear that Palade's projection that the 'new' voters in the 2nd round will decide things is pretty reliable, and based on 2015's results, Trzaskowski needs to defeat Duda among new voters by a score of 60-40% in order to secure victory.

2) The battle for 3rd place is still not decided. Bosak would appear to be slipping, but I think there's not much between him, Hołownia and WKK.
Crow 146 | 9,109
22 Jun 2020 #1,404
Trzaskowski: 46.9%

Very intereseting. I only hope that eventual winning of brat Trz means continuation of import of most heavy Russian armament to Serbia via Poland's air space.

They are brainwashed morons.

They are?
amiga500 2 | 206
22 Jun 2020 #1,405
Don't worry Serbia Interests will not be threatened under a second Presidency of Duda.
kaprys 3 | 2,503
22 Jun 2020 #1,406
@mafketis
I have seen it before. That was both pathetic and hilarious.
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
22 Jun 2020 #1,407
I'm still waiting for the first Duda presidency to start
amiga500 2 | 206
22 Jun 2020 #1,408
Thats because you seem to be brain damaged. Bang your head against the wall again and you might remember the last 4 years
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
22 Jun 2020 #1,409
Yes, the rule of JK.

Why doesn't he stand for election himself?
Crow 146 | 9,109
22 Jun 2020 #1,410
Serbia Interests will not be threatened

I thought so. As somebody said, if it ain`t broken, don`t fix it. So, why complicate with replacement of Duda.

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