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Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates


cms neuf - | 1,588
16 Apr 2020 #541
No surprise there and I can't imagine Other countries with big Polish populatiosna llowing it eaiter - Canada, Australia Ireland etc.
Spike31 3 | 1,624
16 Apr 2020 #542
It seems that Chinese flu hysteria will eventually work against PiS. They benefited from it so far but overcooked it at the end. Unless they end it soon, they may start losing popularity.

I watched Polish Parliament sessions recently and the only normal (that is unmasked) MEP was G. Braun from Konfederacja. It's good to know that we can count on them.

The society seems to start getting tired of those nonsense restrictions as well but there are still many more who took it seriously and are more scared of mass media virus than are tired of restrictions. Time will tell and the good weather may finally put an end to this grotesque "pandemics".
jon357 63 | 15,214
16 Apr 2020 #543
I can't imagine Other countries with big Polish populations allowing it either

They won't, during the current pandemic. Hard to imagine anywhere wanting people going out in large numbers to an embassy for frivolous reasons.
jon357 63 | 15,214
22 Apr 2020 #544
And a diplomat has just confirmed it. They can't organise overseas postal voting easily, nor can they have voting at an embassy:

rmf24.pl/raporty/raport-wybory-prezydenckie2020/najnowsze-fakty/news-polski-dyplomata-w-usa-to-co-dzieje-sie-wokol-wyborow-prezyd,nId,4454642
Spike31 3 | 1,624
22 Apr 2020 #545
Relax, not many people will go voting right now in this grotesque atmosphere of "pandemia". Most are not going to vote because "deadly virus will kill us all (and some)".

And I am not going to vote until the government stop penalizing people for not wearing dust masks in public. I disagree with this totalitarian approach and not going to take part in this nonsense.

It should be voluntary so only those who really want it would wear a muzzle on their faces. This will be also an excellent social experiment which would clearly separate easy manipulated halfwits from normal people.
Atch 17 | 3,224
25 Apr 2020 #546
What are peoples' thoughts on the staff changes at Poczta Polska, just in time for the postal election.
Following the sudden and swift dismissal of his predecessor, Tomasz Zdzikot the new head of the postal service is a PIS member and has trotted on over to the post office from the Ministry of Defence. Three other staff changes too including a new HR manager who comes from TVP and who is a former PIS councillor.
cms neuf - | 1,588
25 Apr 2020 #547
Spike was thinking of you today - drove past some house in the middle of nowhere and it was completely plastered with Bosak posters !

I feel sorry for the candidates like KK and Bosak - could have had a breakthrough but PiS seems determined to steal this election. But it's unreal at the moment. Despite the staff changes there is no way the post office can organize a big operation like that in time
mafketis 23 | 8,381
25 Apr 2020 #548
PiS seems determined to steal this election

Yes, it is simply impossible to hold elections in any form that meet the standards of a third world dog fight in the current environment. But that doesn't matter to the neo-RPL thugs of PiS... corrupt and thieving liars to the core, determined to plunder the country with the support of the gullible and poorly educated... all for 500 a month (say goodbye to that not long after the "election"...)
arealpolishreply
25 Apr 2020 #549
I think it is about time for Law and Justice to face some sort of opposition although I am not a Platforma supporter. There just needs to be someone to veto stupid legislations like that on media - wholly unnecessary and puts a shadow over Polish democracy on the international stage.
KorkiTaczer - | 62
27 Apr 2020 #550
Strange to read so called polish forum which has nothing to do with what is happening in Poland right now and with opinions held by the majority of Poles. Its like PO groupies are crying about their candidate having 4% of public support. Well just deal with it and stop crying.
jon357 63 | 15,214
27 Apr 2020 #551
wholly unnecessary and puts a shadow over Polish democracy on the international stage.

They're floundering. Their rural and small-town support base depends increasingly on 500+ which may well not be sustainable; added to this, their voters tend to be the most economically vulnerable.

Holding what is in effect a rigged election without OSCE Observers further weakens both their position and the international confidence needed for continued inward investment.

Plus of course inflation is high and starting to soar...
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
27 Apr 2020 #552
Bread is up by 20% this week, and PiS are refusing to do anything about creating a strategic wheat reserve. It seems that demand from wealthier CEE countries is resulting in significant price increases, something that will very much hurt the rural classes.

We'll see what their electorate thinks when they don't get paid this month.
jon357 63 | 15,214
27 Apr 2020 #553
Hence them trying to rush it through before disaster really strikes.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
27 Apr 2020 #554
They know they've got no choice. The gossip today is that they've lost their majority, and that Gowin is looking like he'll seize the Marshal's job in the Sejm.
cms neuf - | 1,588
27 Apr 2020 #555
I thought Adrian's appeal that rich people should not claim 500 plus was bizarre. I would quite happily go down to say 100 zloty or some token amount if everybody got a reduction to 400 zloty - that would be genuine solidarity

I just can't see the postal election working - I pity the postmen - do I have to wear a mask in my own front yard when I sign for the papers ?
Crow 139 | 8,583
28 Apr 2020 #556
To vote for Duda or not to vote, the question is now. See, its not easy to Poland.

But, no matter all critics that could be said on controversial brat Duda, one must admit that in his time, Poland allowed to Serbia to use Poland`s air space to import most heavy armament from Russia. That is something, no matter Duda himself allowed that or patriots pressed him to allow that or didn`t even ask him and Duda turned blind eye. In any case, outcome is the same, Poland is again Poland and works for Poland.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 433
28 Apr 2020 #557
This mail in election may backfire on them. I could be wrong, but I dont think people are happy with how this is being handled and they may vote against Duda just because of it. I think enough people could go against Duda to cause a run off and then he could lose. Thats best case scenario I think.
mafketis 23 | 8,381
28 Apr 2020 #558
they may vote against Duda

It won't matter - who's going to be counting the votes? A bunch of proven liars and crooks.

Even the usual PiS defenders can't bring themselves to try to justify this disgusting display of PRL morals and manners...
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
28 Apr 2020 #559
Even the church is weighing in now, which makes me wonder if they're not getting cold feet now that they realise who they're in bed with.

It won't matter - who's going to be counting the votes?

Don't worry, Ironside will be along soon to tell us that it's perfectly acceptable for PiS to organise their own people to count the votes.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,063
28 Apr 2020 #560
It won't matter - who's going to be counting the votes?

Wasn't that comrade Stalin who once said: "it doesn't matter how people vote, it matters who counts the votes"?
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,550
29 Apr 2020 #561
Yes it was. He also said the death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
29 Apr 2020 #562
Interesting piece of gossip emerging: the bishops appear to have taken Gowin's side in this.

The rumour now is that if Gowin becomes the Marshal of the Sejm, then when Duda's term ends in August, Gowin becomes the new President according to the Constitution.

As the sitting President, Gowin would also have a significant advantage in the election, but Duda would be gone.
antheads2
29 Apr 2020 #563
lol wishfull thinking by a PO fool.
Spike31 3 | 1,624
29 Apr 2020 #564
in significant price increases, something that will very much hurt the rural classes.

Another nonsense. According to @dolphiandomine grain price increases will hurt Polish farmers. Poor farmers will now be able to get more money for they produce, if they wish to sell it. In their best interest is to get less money for their work. It's called "delphianomics"
jon357 63 | 15,214
29 Apr 2020 #565
One reason they're trying to push through a highly dodgy election without Observers. There are interesting times ahead, especially as the economy is in a poor state.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
29 Apr 2020 #566
wishfull thinking by a PO fool.

Ah, typical Polonia, completely out of touch with what's actually happening in Poland.

According to @dolphiandomine grain price increases will hurt Polish farmers

Is everyone in a rural area a farmer? If they are, do they all have crops that can actually be sold? Here's a clue: drought is destroying Polish crops. If they have nothing to sell, higher prices are hardly going to help them.
Ironside 49 | 10,302
29 Apr 2020 #567
ompletely out of touch

Who was right about the last three consecutive elections in Poland and their results and who was wrong? That right Me and Delph.

higher prices are hardly going to help them.

Nor gonna to hurt them as you claimed.
mafketis 23 | 8,381
30 Apr 2020 #568
Well PiS has those who long for the comforting big daddy state of the PRL and nothing will change that...

PiS = neo-PRL,
PiS supporters = beton,
PiS apologists = Jerzy Urban
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
30 Apr 2020 #569
Nor gonna to hurt them as you claimed.

Tell us Ironside, with Polish agriculture suffering because of the drought and rural communities lacking work, where are they getting money from?
mafketis 23 | 8,381
30 Apr 2020 #570
Od Krzywego Ryja? (krzywy ryj being a nickname for the current PM...)


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