Should Polonia and expat Poles lose voting rights in Polish elections?

A record number of expat Poles have registered to take part in presidential elections - 387.000. Some of them have already received and submitted their voting cards, other complain they still haven`t.

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5 years ago 165.000 expat Poles voted. Kukiz won the first round with 38%. Duda got 25%, Komorowski 21%.
In the second round, Duda got 56%. In the USA it was 81% of all votes.

But nothing is given for ever. In 2019 parliamentary elections Polonia rejected PiS and voted the opposition.

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I guess they will vote for Bosak.

Anything is possible. We must wait.

Looks like only postal votes received by Sunday are counted so many thousands of Polonia will miss out. Looks like you got your wish Pawian :(

That was known. Actually in some places it was supposed to be Friday. Don't see why those who want to vote should miss out...

Polonia that will miss out is the Polonia in places that don't do even postal voting (I think Chile is one of them)

I am not happy about it. I believe most Polonia won`t vote Duda.

American Polonia (the worst Polonia?) probably will.... the rest probably wouldn't....

Am Polonia isn`t unanimous or unified in their views. There is traditional peasant Chicago and new intelligence in California. Check the results in previous parliamentary elections.

First, thousands of ballot cards weren`t delivered in time to Polonia and people weren`t able to vote. Thank you, PiS.

Next, 15.000 cards were lost in the UK. Thank you, PiS.

Additionally, thousands who wanted to register for the second round and the deadline was last midnight, couldn`t do it due to net registration system failure. Thank you, PiS.

Kurwa mać, have those rightard morons carried out anything correctly from the beginning to the end???? Or is Chaos and Mess second names of PiS??

Lost 15.000 cards can be a sabotage
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Someone who haven't been living in Poland in the last 10 years (or at all!) should not have the voting rights. they don't pay the taxes (as they live elsewhere), and- most importantly- wont face the consequences of their choice.

it's a bit different story if, for example, someone has emigrated to earn money for business/house etc and is coming back after a couple of years (or so)- then I think they should be allowed to partake in the elections only if they already know they will come back to PL (i.e. they already have dates) in foreseeble future (but not 'one day').

Then they must simply extend the deadline - I'm sure that would get a fair hearing in the constitutional court.

Sure all of our friends in Chicago and wherever agree that polonia should get their voting rights

PiS is trying to introduce major changes into the ballot system. One of them is depriving expat Poles the right to vote while abroad. The reason is that too many American Poles voted against PiS during the last national elections.

Amasing.

More exactly, it is a PiS attempt at deprivation by limiting the time of counting the votes to 24 hours - after this time, the ballot stations have to send the results to the ballot headquarters in Poland. If they don`t make it, votes will be annulled. Foreign Poles complain 24 hours isn`t enough. Fortunately, they are determined to cast a valid vote and are calling for all hand on the deck.

Hey Paw,last time I voted what you didnt want so this time Ill vote for whom you want,lol like my 1 vote matters but still......

Anybody who isn`t PIS and isn`t going to ally with them in the future parliament.

done deal.but who then?

You see, I can`t tell you just like I don`t tell it directly to my students who to vote for in order to avoid cheap agitation. That would be below my dignity. I only tell them to go to elections and pay back the politicians who sentenced them to years of depressing torture in PIS deformed school system.

I am going to vote for Mr Honourable Donald Tusk`s party coz they are the wisest of all. And their deputy leader, Mr Honourable Warsaw Mayor Trzaskowski is an awesome man. Not politician - just a man.

But other opposition parties are also not so bad.

tbh i'm all for blocking the voting rights of those who live abroad for years (or even their whole life!). they are not going to face the consequences of their votes, so why should they vote?

Because they are not influenced by PiS propaganda

what if they voted for PiS - would you still support voting from abroad?

@gumishu
The elections are democratic and secret.

It should time out after a few years. And the idea of foreigner who've never lived in a country but only have family roots there voting is simply bizarre.

Good news. As many as 70 percent more Poles than four years ago.have registered to vote abroad this year. PiS will be flushed down the toilet into the cesspool where they belong. hahahaha

You really are a complete moron aren't you?

Most of those voters will be in the USA and Canada and will vote for PIS.....

That's a good sign. It's mostly the younger demographic presently living and working in Europe. Some countries have issued warnings to expect very long queues if you're intending to vote, Denmark, the Netherlands, Ireland, Switzerland, Sweden and Luxembourg. The Polish Embassy in the Netherlands even suggested that voters there could instead register in Germany and Belgium! Ireland is expecting a fairly massive turnout.

In total it's over 600,000 which is double the number of the last parliamentary election.

"In western Europe, the Polish diaspora tends to vote for parties currently in opposition. For example, in 2019, the main opposition group, Civic Coalition (KO), received 43% of the vote among Poles in Germany while the ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party got 24%. In the UK, KO got 37% and PiS 20%."

You see, darling, that is a perfect proof you know nothing about Poland. Worse - you refuse to learn. You are like PIS voters - brainwashed homo sovieticus creature. DFU and your stalinist grandpa too!

US results are appearing - the opposition scores a landslide victory in NYC. Amasing!

We are awaiting results across the US. But when it comes to the vote at the Consulate General in Manhattan, it's an overwhelming victory for KO. (Consulate in NYC) Votes 2,086 Civic Coalition - 1,026 New Left - 355 Law and Justice - 347 Third Way - 223 Confederation - 93 Poland Is One - 13 Non-partisan Local Government People - 11 Senate voting results: Adam Bodnar KO - 1,632 Alicja Żebrowska PiS - 417

But how about Chicago?

Poles not living in Poland should not be allowed to vote in Polish elections since they will not have to live with the consequences of their choices.

Now I feel like murdering you, how do u prefer? knife in the heart or bullet to the head. Unlike you poverty hillbilly idiot some of us poles not living in Poland visit Poland and spend 3+months every year or two with our family and friends. Also have business and other interests.