Poland, Western Europe and the USA - What if Ukraine disappears from the map?

I will settle for dropping "Vatican" for now.

Forget it.

@Crow
What if Serbia again disappears from the map?

More likely than Ukraine.

Svetovid will protect Serbia.

ukraine wont disappear , but it should shrink to areas with people of of ukrainian ethnicity only . ukraine should not be allowed to hold to areas dominated with other ethnicity.

ukra nazis they mistreated russian population,and those regions should be carved out of ukraine.
ukra borders were formed by 2 criminal alcoholics (kutchma and yeltsin) in dodgy deal behind the close doors,and thats why all those problems now.

Since Ukraine loves democracy and is a democracy it will gladly follow Rule 1 of democracy - self-determination like in Kosovo and Crimea.
How about it Mr. Z? A referendum maybe?

Quoting:

Which country has taken the most Ukrainian refugees?

Russia: (estimated) 1,412,425 Ukrainian refugees recorded.
Poland: 1,194,642.
Moldova: 82,700.
Romania: 83,321.
Slovakia: 79,770.
Hungary: 25,800.
Belarus: 9,820.

russia took them captive. That's a difference.

yes. and Russians keep them in basements and drink their blood.
wonder ,what mistakes one need to make in life,to grow so dumb.

@gregy741
Hi,hi it hurts.

Interesting info about that:


apnews.com/article/Ukraine-Russia-refugees-Mariupol-war-investigation-31880d51ae29818b6c3b04156aae38d5

...Nearly 2 million Ukrainians refugees have been sent to Russia, according to both Ukrainian and Russian officials. Ukraine portrays these journeys as forced transfers to enemy soil, which is considered a war crime. Russia calls them humanitarian evacuations of war victims who already speak Russian and are grateful for a new home. ...

I wondered myself why Ukrainians would choose Russia....as it seems it's not at all so clear a choice....

bro. you do realize,that all those claims about "forceful deportation" were coming from denisova -former Ombudsman for Human Rights ?
you do know ,that even red cross debunked it as garbage,and she was sacked by ukra parliament,cus she was inventing garbage stories. ohhh. denisova herself admitted she invented all this rubbish.

how do you believe was possible to forcefully deport 1.5 mil people?and not a single video or evidence exist?not to mention logistical problems in such task.

do you understand, how difficult it is to deport unwilling person? you would need 5 soldier escort for every 20 people ,in order to do it.
have a look how much cost and effort is required to deport illegal immigrant in europe.
bro one would need to dedicate 50k soldiers to conduct such task. for a month

@gregy741, bro, bro, bro... Maybe you don't realise that, but the partner of one of PF members had a family in Mariupol... And they were forcefully deported to Russia to an unknown location and him and his partner couldn't contact them in a normal way for a long time (and maybe they still can't - I don't know what's the situation right now).

Is this normal according to you?


Did you miss this fragment?:

"An Associated Press investigation based on dozens of interviews has found that while the picture is more nuanced than the Ukrainian government suggests, many refugees are indeed forced to embark on a surreal trip into Russia, subjected along the way to human rights abuses, stripped of documents and left confused and lost about where they are."


Oh, summer child! lol Ukrainians are getting their phones taken away by Russian soldiers, photos and videos deleted and they're deleting them themselves, because they know Russians are checking the phones both in filtration camps and when the refugees are trying to get out of Russia.

And I'm talking here about photos and videos of destruction and dead bodies in Ukraine. I doubt that many people would have the courage and opportunity to somehow film the deportations while they were happening (if they still had their phones and they were working, that is).


It's not that difficult when you have a gun and that other person is not armed. Are you really that clueless or you just pretend to be that stupid?

And if Stalin managed, then why Putin wouldn't be able to do it in the 21st century? o_O

me stupid? i think your "intellect" is quite know here.no offence.
i think you are stupid , to believe that 1.5 million ppl can be forcefully deported on gunpoint.
how do you propose this could have happened? like in 2 world war, trucks with soldiers jumping out ,and capturing people on gunpoint.,handcuffing ? hahaha
go grow some brain cells pls.


yes yes, and ghost of kiev recorded all this.
the problem with the western world is that ,they were fooled to believe that ukra goverment is somehow trustworthy and reputable source of info.

for those who followed this conflict since 2014 , its bizarre how western media could repeat ukra thugs without even checking facts.
we know how they are since long. we remember air vents in luhansk

....all of the truth will probably only come out when this war is over.

yea. for idiots. haha did you read this article?
absolutely hell of a fun.
so 1000 people forced to march at gunpoint to siberia. hahahaha
and the evidence is story of Dmitriy( they should fkin give us some different names. always dimitry wtf)
so how this forceful deportation happened in hes case? well bad russians convinced him to evacuate from mariupol. but they lied about bus destination.
then he jumped into train to novogrod,but thanks god he called his wife,she told him to got out of train so he did. hahahaha

all those stories are hilarious. designed for 8 years old.
not a single case in there remotely resembling forceful deportation. some were offered better place,money or simply confused.all clearly antirussian vibe.
pathetic attempt of idiotic propaganda

ahhh there is another flower there. s
so basically how russia forcefully deport ukrainians is by ,first luring them with food and once they in russia ,telling them that they will be prosecuted by ukrainians ,for coming to russia.

so those ukrainians are afraid to come back home. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
OMG am dying! da fuk ,this world is funny
no wonder you people buying stuff bout ghost of kiev. this is another article for you.

youtu.be/WCe-EvczSV0

Virtue Signaling About Ukraine!

Certain pro Russian poster, Novi or Polam, I don`t remember now, tried to disparage President Zelensky in another thread, claiming, falsely of course, that he enjoys low support among Ukrainians.

In recent days, Ukrainians have grown in trust in Volodymyr Zelensky. As "Dziennik Gazeta Prawna" describes, citing the results of a poll, the Ukrainian president has benefited from the public conflict between Washington and Kiev. Donald Trump, calling him a "dictator without elections" and suggesting that Ukraine started the war, actually helped Zelensky.
As a result of the critical remarks made by the White House, trust in the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky has reached a record value since April 2024, reports "Dziennik Gazeta Prawna".
According to data published based on a survey conducted on February 20-21 by the Reytynh center, 32 percent of Ukrainian citizens declare complete trust in Zelensky, and another 33 percent answer that they rather trust him. The total trust indicator reaches 65 percent, which is an increase of 8 percentage points compared to the previous month. In addition, the president receives expressions of support even from some members of the opposition.

Its obvious now. Ukraine will disappear from the map.

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You really are a complete moron with absolutely no understanding of how the world works!

With you, it's all about what you desire!

No brain involved!

No brain is not worse than a rat`s brain. Stop diminishing Crow coz he is a good man while you are rotten to the ratty core by hiding in the sewers all your life. .

@Miloslaw

While you have brain for four legs and not for two.

Don't worry, the US won't give up on Ukraine that easily... at most, if necessary, they will change the president of Ukraine.

Ukraine already don`t exist as state. What we see now is only theater. Preparation of public for inevitable.

With....... who?

I am curious what would be consequences for Poland if just Poland remain on the wrong side, after process of unification of Slavic civilization is over. Would Poland be split between western European Eurabia and Slavic world, instead that to be destine of Germany?

Poland`s NATO and EU membership now only serving to salvation of Germany and ruination of Poland itself.

Clock is ticking, while Hungary and Serbia still wait for Poland.

Poland is always on the right side, and soon we will be getting our own nukes. When that happens we will, with broad Sarmatian smile, extend middle finger towards all those who would like to tell us what we can or cannot do.

Serbia would be well advised to remember that or we might consider etablishing Velika Hrvatska in the Balkans...



... to keep a watchful eye on all traitors of Svetovid and Majka Slavija.

If such ideas exist in Poland then Vatican`s black nobility have strong grip on Poland`s society. In shared rule with Germanic magnates.


The moment official Poland start like this to talk to Serbia is the moment when Poland would cease to be interesting to majority of the Poles, Kashubs, Lusatians, Lemki, Silesians, etc. I only hope, if come to this, Poland disintegrate in a peaceful process.

Serbians are no Russians. Conflict with Russians unites Poles. If official Poland enters in conflict with Serbia that will ruin Poland from within in a very short period of time. Non state can survive conflict with center of its civilization.

Russia wouldn`t survive conflict with Serbia.

Such conflict is very unlikely as Russia doesn't have equipment advanced enough to locate Serbia on the map. After the sanctions were introduced, the production of microscopes in Russia plummeted.