Poland, Western Europe and the USA - What if Ukraine disappears from the map?

I will settle for dropping "Vatican" for now.

Forget it.

@Crow
What if Serbia again disappears from the map?

More likely than Ukraine.

Svetovid will protect Serbia.

ukraine wont disappear , but it should shrink to areas with people of of ukrainian ethnicity only . ukraine should not be allowed to hold to areas dominated with other ethnicity.

ukra nazis they mistreated russian population,and those regions should be carved out of ukraine.
ukra borders were formed by 2 criminal alcoholics (kutchma and yeltsin) in dodgy deal behind the close doors,and thats why all those problems now.

Since Ukraine loves democracy and is a democracy it will gladly follow Rule 1 of democracy - self-determination like in Kosovo and Crimea.
How about it Mr. Z? A referendum maybe?

Quoting:

Which country has taken the most Ukrainian refugees?

Russia: (estimated) 1,412,425 Ukrainian refugees recorded.
Poland: 1,194,642.
Moldova: 82,700.
Romania: 83,321.
Slovakia: 79,770.
Hungary: 25,800.
Belarus: 9,820.

russia took them captive. That's a difference.

yes. and Russians keep them in basements and drink their blood.
wonder ,what mistakes one need to make in life,to grow so dumb.

@gregy741
Hi,hi it hurts.

Interesting info about that:


apnews.com/article/Ukraine-Russia-refugees-Mariupol-war-investigation-31880d51ae29818b6c3b04156aae38d5

...Nearly 2 million Ukrainians refugees have been sent to Russia, according to both Ukrainian and Russian officials. Ukraine portrays these journeys as forced transfers to enemy soil, which is considered a war crime. Russia calls them humanitarian evacuations of war victims who already speak Russian and are grateful for a new home. ...

I wondered myself why Ukrainians would choose Russia....as it seems it's not at all so clear a choice....

bro. you do realize,that all those claims about "forceful deportation" were coming from denisova -former Ombudsman for Human Rights ?
you do know ,that even red cross debunked it as garbage,and she was sacked by ukra parliament,cus she was inventing garbage stories. ohhh. denisova herself admitted she invented all this rubbish.

how do you believe was possible to forcefully deport 1.5 mil people?and not a single video or evidence exist?not to mention logistical problems in such task.

do you understand, how difficult it is to deport unwilling person? you would need 5 soldier escort for every 20 people ,in order to do it.
have a look how much cost and effort is required to deport illegal immigrant in europe.
bro one would need to dedicate 50k soldiers to conduct such task. for a month

@gregy741, bro, bro, bro... Maybe you don't realise that, but the partner of one of PF members had a family in Mariupol... And they were forcefully deported to Russia to an unknown location and him and his partner couldn't contact them in a normal way for a long time (and maybe they still can't - I don't know what's the situation right now).

Is this normal according to you?


Did you miss this fragment?:

"An Associated Press investigation based on dozens of interviews has found that while the picture is more nuanced than the Ukrainian government suggests, many refugees are indeed forced to embark on a surreal trip into Russia, subjected along the way to human rights abuses, stripped of documents and left confused and lost about where they are."


Oh, summer child! lol Ukrainians are getting their phones taken away by Russian soldiers, photos and videos deleted and they're deleting them themselves, because they know Russians are checking the phones both in filtration camps and when the refugees are trying to get out of Russia.

And I'm talking here about photos and videos of destruction and dead bodies in Ukraine. I doubt that many people would have the courage and opportunity to somehow film the deportations while they were happening (if they still had their phones and they were working, that is).


It's not that difficult when you have a gun and that other person is not armed. Are you really that clueless or you just pretend to be that stupid?

And if Stalin managed, then why Putin wouldn't be able to do it in the 21st century? o_O

me stupid? i think your "intellect" is quite know here.no offence.
i think you are stupid , to believe that 1.5 million ppl can be forcefully deported on gunpoint.
how do you propose this could have happened? like in 2 world war, trucks with soldiers jumping out ,and capturing people on gunpoint.,handcuffing ? hahaha
go grow some brain cells pls.


yes yes, and ghost of kiev recorded all this.
the problem with the western world is that ,they were fooled to believe that ukra goverment is somehow trustworthy and reputable source of info.

for those who followed this conflict since 2014 , its bizarre how western media could repeat ukra thugs without even checking facts.
we know how they are since long. we remember air vents in luhansk

....all of the truth will probably only come out when this war is over.

yea. for idiots. haha did you read this article?
absolutely hell of a fun.
so 1000 people forced to march at gunpoint to siberia. hahahaha
and the evidence is story of Dmitriy( they should fkin give us some different names. always dimitry wtf)
so how this forceful deportation happened in hes case? well bad russians convinced him to evacuate from mariupol. but they lied about bus destination.
then he jumped into train to novogrod,but thanks god he called his wife,she told him to got out of train so he did. hahahaha

all those stories are hilarious. designed for 8 years old.
not a single case in there remotely resembling forceful deportation. some were offered better place,money or simply confused.all clearly antirussian vibe.
pathetic attempt of idiotic propaganda

ahhh there is another flower there. s
so basically how russia forcefully deport ukrainians is by ,first luring them with food and once they in russia ,telling them that they will be prosecuted by ukrainians ,for coming to russia.

so those ukrainians are afraid to come back home. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
OMG am dying! da fuk ,this world is funny
no wonder you people buying stuff bout ghost of kiev. this is another article for you.

youtu.be/WCe-EvczSV0

Virtue Signaling About Ukraine!