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Indeed.


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The opposite, even...

Why mention France? They're a major rugby-playing nation and one of the better teams in Poland is made up of French people whop live in Warsaw.


This is true, Driving standards in Poland are very very low. There are I think a few threads on that here.

@jon357
As I said, played it only once. Must been lucky that's all.

Opposite? You thinking about normans? (Descendants of Vikings who settled in France, then invaded and conquered the Crown of England and quarreled about the crown of France?)

The Normans were very much French. Anyway William the Conqueror was the cousin of the Saxon King Harold, so ......

For centuries after them too (and related by dynastic marriage before; Anglo-Saxon royalty was conspicuously cosmopolitan with family connections all across Europe including Byzantium and what existed before Poland), and oddly enough I did know the origins of the Normans. They're a little more complex than you tried to express, however the basics were there.

After the Normans came centuries of Angevin wrangling with the key players having lesser (Richard the Lionheart/Coeur de Lion visited England once and hated it) or greater (c.f. the later Plantagenets) connections to the British Isles including Scotland and Ireland. It can also be argued that the 1603 accession of James VI/I (since the Stuarts were and are were more French than Scottish) was a return of this.

That's not the reason France and Italy play rugby though. Although Britain and France are close in many ways, rugby evolved as a game after the Angevin (and even after the Stuart) demise.

After all and since we're talking about rugby, where was the Battle of Waterloo really fought?

Do you like Rugby League? A very different game.

Modern day Belgium if I am not mistaken, basically British version of Roman Aristocrats trying to take care of a French Julius Ceasaer with the Prussians closing the deal.

Rugby league? Is that like fantasy football? Where you choose which players you think will perform the best by making your own team? I don't know enough about rugby players to have any chance tho. Unless I invested my time in to it

You are indeed mistaken. It was fought on the playing fields of Eton.


The mildest (though far from the most condescending) response to that is to say that your understanding of the French Wars is somewhat unique.


No, it's real rugby (a different code) and is perennially popular, especially in industrial regions for specific historical reasons.

If you're not familiar with the game, it's worth a look.

Italian press fear UEFA conspiracy for England to win Euro 2020 as reward for ending the Super League

marca.com/en/football/uefa-euro/2021/07/08/60e769d3ca47416c7c8b4

Pointed out England's soft penalty which was awarded and eventually gave them semi-final win over Denmark

England's route to the final has also come under scrutiny as five of the six games played were are Wembley - the other in Rome - and the final is also at Wembley, essentially making Euro 2020 a home tournament for the English.

Interesting, that would be a reason for all those "lucky" pro-english decisions....

That's the key here. Press. They've got a lot of pages to fill about the football and are frankly saying anything they can get away with now. Plus in some cultures (Arab and to an extent Italian) they always prepare the situation first to try and avoid losing face afterwards.


Yes, it was certainly soft, however it's bizarre to suggest that the referee wasn't neutral. If they'd used VAR better it may have been different, but in any case, it would have been 1-1 and gone to penalties afterwards.


It has to be somewhere and if it were in Rome, the more desperate elements of the UK press would doubtless be suggesting it favoured Italy. There's always a home side and an away side unless it's at a neutral venue which for the Euros would be impossible to guarantee without a crystal ball or a pre-arranged switch of venue.

You England fan???? ;)

Doesn't matter...I still like you! :)

I always support Poland first, but when they, inevitably, go out early, I switch my allegiance to England.
Who are the second best team in this tournament.
But they still have an outside chance against the best team, Italy.
But watch out for Italy's dirty tricks.....

....still friends.....afterwards! :)

With you?
Yes :-)

Yes, and thanks. England first, then Scotland/Wales, then Ireland, thennUkraine, then Poland. Although in the case of Poland, it generally involves saying "nic nie się stało".

pot..... kettle.....

FORZA ITALIA!!!!!!!!

They're nimbler on their feet (some of them) but we can be dirtier when needed.

Since I have no emotional attachment to soccer (and almost only ever watch international events organized by countries) I just watch a bit and one side usually attracts my loyalty for that match...

One of the few non-national games I ever watched was Barca vs Real Madrid (was in Hungary at the time). Madrid played with more heart (AFAICT) and their goalkeeper was really great but the result was a tie which somehow gave Barca a national title - winning a title with a tie just seems so bogus.... (but then so does so much else about soccer from off sides, to penalty kicks and penalty shootouts... such a silly pretend sport).

That's the thing, emotional attachment. Like me and baseball. I might watch it but wouldn't know much about the teams. If New York were playing, I'd support them because I've been there and liked it. Here football (and rugby) can be intensely tribal with city-city rivalries going back to the time when the Midland Railway first appeared and it became possible for working-class men in the north to form a league and travel to matches.


When I was in Africa, everyone but everyone where I was followed Spanish football and used to get all worked up about their star players.


Yes, it does. I'd have bden happier if that first goal for England hadn't been an own goal by Denmark.

As a German I would never had thought I would support Italy....but when it goes against England I support EVERY TEAM! :)

The English fans are really the worst (the english England fans I mean, not the much nicer adopted ones)!!!! I just don't want them to win since they are so graceless and mean victors without any shame!

Harassing and abusing the children of their opponents, there must be a special place in hell for such people....

So, tomorrow we are all Italians! FORZA ITALIA!!! :)

What about shining a laser in the goalkeeper's eyes?!


Baseball is more boring than watching paint dry...


Sounds like college football in the US - the pro-game is too commercialized and money and ad-centric. The college game is much closer to the pseudo-tribal rivalries of European soccer or Rugby - it also has the quirky ritualistic aspect (all the big universities have lots of traditions about things fans yell or sing or do at certain points of the game, my favorite is Wisconsin's 'jump around' at the beginning of the fourth quarter). It's horribly corrupt and exploitative of the players (most of whom have no business at a university) but it does have that collective ritual thing going for it that the pro game lacks.

That's true. Cricket can be similar. Best watched with a drink on a lazy Sunday or on your phone while skiving at the office.


The same. It's surreal to see a bus full of old ladies with blue-rinsed hair and cigarette voices singing to the tune of Que Sera Sera "Wash yer mouth out son, And go get your fathers gun, And shoot all the Bradford scum, Shoot the Bradford scum" or ""Park, Park, wherever you may be, You eat dogs in your home country, Could be worse, could be Scouse, Eating rats in a council house".

And there are worse chants than that. Plus there are all sorts of traditions. and food like pies and Bovril.

The Supreme Court ruled last month that ncaa athletes can now benefit monetarily from their name, image, and likeness. It's about time! Dulls the ncaa's exploitative practice.

They really are not the worst;

pikroll.com/entertainment/worst-football-hooligans-in-the-world/

Hate to quote myself, but...


...and today's news:


sport.interia.pl/raporty/raport-me-euro-2020/aktualnosci/news-anglicy-ukarani-przez-uefa-jest-oficjalna-decyzja,nId,5350762

:)

According to Danish media, Danish supporters were assaulted and spat onto before the game during which English "fans" booed the Danish anthem, verbally abused Denmark's supporters and repeatedly tried to blind Schmeichel with laser beams.

30k euro for that... and Hungarian FA was fined 100k for racist chants, and three games at home without supporters. UEFA is a joke.

They'll make twice as much on the Bovril and three times as much on the scratchcards.


Good.

According to Danish media, Danish supporters were assaulted and spat onto before the game during which English "fans" booed the Danish anthem, verbally abused Denmark's supporters and repeatedly tried to blind Schmeichel with laser beams.

And they did that to other teams too....

Worst "fans" ever!

Because the fine was too low or because UEFA is a bunch of morons who fined an organization that did nothing wrong and had no control over those who did?

BTW, booing is free speech, isn't it? The only thing anyone should be able to do is to remove the booers for being disruptive.

Who should remove them IN WEMBLEY! The English themselves surely not...

But the English prided themselves always for being "fair sports"....now that image is being destroyed thoroughly!

If they can't that is not a reason to punish an unrelated party. Hungarian FA didn't chant. Chanters did so go after them. Lidice again?

A real good punishment (the only one) would had been to give the finale to Rome!