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Paulina 12 | 1,994
14 Sep 2021 #331
Not so new after all - in 2016 a drunk and naked guy after a bachelor party broke into... a theatre:

dzienniklodzki.pl/nagi-i-pijany-w-teatrze-po-wieczorze-kawalerskim-obudzili-go-policjanci/ar/9866787

After making some mess he took down a curtain, covered himself with it and fell asleep on a balcony. He didn't know how he got there.
amiga500 2 | 739
14 Sep 2021 #332
Another prosecutor who "doesn't want to deal with mafia"?

What has your example have to do with my point of mafia fear for prosecutors and judges? And what better way to get off the case than to be suspended by breaking the law in a minor manner but a way that gets press attention? btw that his neighbours said they had not seen him drunk in 13 years was reported on polsat news.

At least you were a bit smarter this time and did not claim the drunk on the tram was a PiS voter.
You should stop reading Onet , as i can see it rots the brain :)
Paulina 12 | 1,994
14 Sep 2021 #333
What has your example have to do with my point of mafia fear for prosecutors and judges?

Everything? lol I usually go for the most probable explanations, unless there is some proof to the contrary. Alcohol abuse among men is pretty much a norm in Poland and alcoholism among men has been always (since I can remember) very common where I live. And as you can see such cases like the one with that prosecutor aren't unheard of. The fact that he's a prosecutor doesn't change a thing - anyone can be a drunk or get drunk. And another thing - the Świdnica prosecutor is supposed to work on a case investigating PiS people. So we know about a case that could be (if we want to follow your path of conspiracy theories) the more probable reason for him to go full monty. And yet, you're still on the mafia theory. What mafia? In Świdnica?? lol

that his neighbours said they had not seen him drunk in 13 years

First you wrote "townspeople" and now you're writing about "neighbours" - so which is it?

what better way to get off the case than to be suspended by breaking the law in a minor manner

He could simply resign from his position in Świdnica. Now he can even get a ban on being a prosecutor.

I honestly don't understand why some of you think it's so extraordinary and unbelievable that he simply got wasted to such an extent.

At least you were a bit smarter this time and did not claim the drunk on the tram was a PiS voter.

It wasn't a claim, it's a fact that the Świdnica prosecutor is a PiS guy. And why do you think I stressed that fact? Are you and Ironside really that clueless?
amiga500 2 | 739
14 Sep 2021 #334
Now he can even get a ban.

He was suspended, big difference, he'll come out of suspension once the mafia case is over :)

prosecutor is supposed to work on a case

You have no proof of your claim. You just assumed it was assigned to him from a onet article. Do you know how many prosecutors there are in a town of 50 thousand people?
Paulina 12 | 1,994
14 Sep 2021 #335
he'll come out of suspension once the mafia case is over :)

What "mafia case"? You have no proof that he is working on any "mafia case". It's pure guesswork and probably also wishful thinking on your part.

And do we even have "mafia" in Poland? What mafia? Polish mafia? Ukrainian mafia? Russian mafia? Are you saying that PiS made Poland go back in time to the 90's and it's so bad nowadays that prosecutors have to fear for their life to such an extent that they go full monty in a shop? lol

You have no proof of your claim. You just assumed it was assigned to him

Neither do you. You have no proof of your claim that he was working on some "mafia case" and that he went drunk and naked outside in public on purpose in order to get suspended :)
Miloslaw 11 | 3,197
14 Sep 2021 #336
@amiga500

The main organised crime gangs in Poland that could be regarded as "Mafia" were pretty well put out of business back in the nineties.

The existing orgaised crime gangs are just not on the same level and could not be described as "Mafia".
amiga500 2 | 739
14 Sep 2021 #337
@miloslaw they're on a higher level because they have smartened up by not going to war with each other and kidnapping businessmen. Their assets was never seized after those raids. They are making more money than ever in cahoots with the post communists since the start. And yes prosecutors (esp patriots) are still scared of them. Do you see the mafia in sicily killing each other these days, no they are running high rise construction sites and bringing in the fake refugees.
Cargo pants 2 | 1,086
14 Sep 2021 #338
The existing orgaised crime gangs are just not on the same level and could not be described as "Mafia".

Most of the Polish gangs are now involved in LEGAL but ILLEGITIMATE acktivities.But there are now,Russian,Armenina,Georgian mobs,who usually do international stuff and USUALLY preying upon there own people,Ukranian mafia being the weakest,but Russians & Armenians are ruthless and will do anything for money,no matter who is it.But those days of openly operating mafia was gone by 2006/2007.

@Paulina,whats up with you females calling guys low life/having high standards??Sorry no offense.
mafketis 29 | 9,829
14 Sep 2021 #339
making more money than ever in cahoots with the post communists

like Obajtek and his shenanigans? He does seem as crooked as a dog's hind leg...

prosecutors (esp patriots) are still scared of them

Not very patriotic then are they? More like a bunch of ch|сken sh]t b*St*rds$

a former high class escort.?

So... one of them, are you?
Paulina 12 | 1,994
14 Sep 2021 #340
Well, there's always going to be some kind of organised crime, but it doesn't mean that any such group can be called "mafia". I guess the only time I hear or read the word "mafia" being used is in the context of "mafia VATowska" (VAT mafia). Something for you, amiga500 :):

tvn24.pl/polska/mafia-vat-owska-w-ministerstwie-finansow-poslowie-izabela-leszczyna-i-janusz-cichon-pytaja-o-kontrole-skarbowe-5009327

Not very patriotic then are they? More like a bunch of ch|сken sh]t b*St*rds$

It's "Good Change", maf! "Dobra zmiana!" :D

a former high class escort.?
So... one of them, are you?

Nah, he's more likely a pimp and this is why he knows so much about "mafia" in Poland :D
Cargo pants 2 | 1,086
14 Sep 2021 #341
"mafia VATowska" (VAT mafia).

LOL and most involved in that are Indians & Dutch,I am sure you have never heard of that.
Paulina 12 | 1,994
14 Sep 2021 #342
@Cargo pants, you're right, I haven't - I'm afraid I don't hang out in such circles :P

They are making more money than ever in cahoots with the post communists since the start.

Indeed lol:

tvn24.pl/polska/mafia-vat-owska-karuzela-vat-reportaz-superwizjera-4744615
amiga500 2 | 739
14 Sep 2021 #343
So... one of them, are you?

I attack everyone equally, regardless of race and gender. I believe i have called you a lot worse :)

like Obajtek and his shenanigans?

Cherrypicking one example out of a hundred on the other side does not do your credibility any favours..

Traitors to Poland, including PO post communist boosters deserve no mercy, man or woman. Making fun of that poor prosecutor who has to run out naked to avoid being threatened by the mafia whilst ignoring the PO idiots serving lukashenka trying to run across our borders means you fall in that category.
Ironside 50 | 11,461
14 Sep 2021 #344
Are you and Ironside really that clueless?

Look, you don't know the first thing about the issue. I don't know anything about it either. at least I ask questions. You know it all without knowing anything at all. That is my point. Don't jump to conclusions.
Paulina 12 | 1,994
2 days ago #345
@amiga500, so anyone who disagrees with you on any given topic is a "traitor"? lol How convenient :)

Traitors to Poland, including PO post communist boosters deserve no mercy, man or woman.

People (you, among others) who claim that supporting a political party they don't like or having different political views than them is enough to call someone a "traitor", show by making such claims their intellectual and moral mediocrity, fanatism and bad character, imho.

Making fun of that poor prosecutor who has to run out naked to avoid being threatened by the mafia

First of all, I wasn't making fun of that prosecutor (even though he most likely deserves it, imho), but of your rather wild theory.

Secondly, if he has family, then his kids and his wife are "poor", not him. I feel sorry for his kids the most and not for that drunkard.

I also have a hard time buying it that you actually believe in your own theory.

ignoring the PO idiots serving lukashenka trying to run across our borders means you fall in that category.

Well, I'm sorry, but this discussion isn't about what's happening on the border with Belarus and I don't see aby debate currently going on about it on PF, so why of all topics I should be commenting about this particular one?

You know it all without knowing anything at all. That is my point. Don't jump to conclusions.

Oh, for God's sake, Ironside... I didn't write that "I know it all", I only wrote what is, according to me, a more probable explanation, knowing the realities of Polish society. I'd like to remind you that neither you nor amiga500 live in Poland.

It was amiga500 who behaved as if he "knew it all without knowing anything" and he was the one who started jumping to (rather ridiculous, imho) conclusions:

https://polishforums.com/news/poland-scandals-conflicts-tensions-arguments-84933/11/#msg1809784

And he didn't write "maybe", he didn't write that this is his "guess". He wrote it as if he was stating a fact.
OP pawian 178 | 15,985
1 day ago #346
why prosecutor did it because he got assigned a case that dealt with the mafia

Of course not. That guy has mental problems. Only by being a loyal PiS stooge did he get that job.

the townspeople said that they had never seen him drunk

I see you constantly invent things out of thin air. Funny. He has been drunk quite often and the latest revelation is he harrassed females when drunk but the investigation was swept under the carpet by his PiS superiors. Caste!


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