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Referendum to decide about exotic immigrants in Poland


gumishu 13 | 6,134
23 Sep 2023 #241
Adam Michnik was an anti-communist.

Adam Michnik was an orthodox marxist in his youth grieving the reactionary turn of Poland under Gomułka
gumishu 13 | 6,134
23 Sep 2023 #243
Bronisław Geremek

Bronisław Geremek served as a communist spy in the French Polonia circles most probably (I also wouldn't be surprised if he had been of Jewish stock)
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
23 Sep 2023 #244
most probably

Most probably you are a rightist swine coz you support PIS rightist swines and gangsters. :):):)
gumishu 13 | 6,134
23 Sep 2023 #245
@pawian
you made me check Gieremek's bio and it looks like: yeah, he was Jewish :P - and he worked in France between 1960-65 - wonder why he came back?

Edit: and he was a communist apparatchik in the 50's
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
23 Sep 2023 #246
he was Jewish

Excellent!!! We need more such people!
Alien 18 | 4,763
23 Sep 2023 #247
communist apparatchik

You also complain about Wałęsa, and he is not even a Jew.
Novichok 5 | 7,723
23 Sep 2023 #248
Excellent!!! We need more such people!

Z for P president! Soon, he will be on sale...or for free.
jon357 74 | 21,817
23 Sep 2023 #249
Wałęsa, and he is not even a Jew.

Doubtless there are people who disagree with him for whatever reason that are (or pretend to be) convinced that he i.

Bronisław Geremek

A very good man. Sadly missed.

Adam Michnik was an orthodox Marxist in his youth

Very good. He seems more of a centrist now though.
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
24 Sep 2023 #250
When the scandal with PiS diplomats issuing Polish visas for bribes erupted, the process was halted. Africans who already paid bribes are demanding their visas. They accuse Poland of robbing poor people in broad daylight.

PIS, why did you do it to them????



OP pawian 222 | 23,657
25 Sep 2023 #251
This PiS scandal reminds me of jokes popular in my pupil and student times in commie Poland - the series was called What is the peak/height of sth?

So, imitating that old style. the joke goes:
What is the peak of impudence?
Allow hundred thousands exotic immigrants in and ask Poles in a referendum if they agree to mass immigration, suggesting the NO answer. .

Thank you, PiS, for this fun!!!! Laughter is healthy!!! hahahahaha
Miloslaw 19 | 4,743
25 Sep 2023 #252
@pawian

So, what are you trying to say, very badly?
Novichok 5 | 7,723
25 Sep 2023 #253
Allow hundred thousands exotic immigrants in and ask Poles in a referendum if they agree to mass immigration,

In a democracy, the referendum would be first. Poland is not a democracy.
mafketis 36 | 10,788
26 Sep 2023 #254
A question for those in Warsaw who are ever around the bus station at Zachodni.....

Was talking to a friend who was transferring from train to bus there and he said it no longer looks like Little Kyiv (as it did for years with more notices in russian and Ukrainian than in Polish) but now looks like Little Bombay with tons of South Asian (and other miscellaneous obvious foreigners)...

Is this the case now and if so, when did this change happen?
cms neuf 1 | 1,765
26 Sep 2023 #255
No - still mostly Ukies and other Ex Soviets.

It does seem a Little India is developing in the stretch of JP2 north of Hala Mirowska
Lyzko 45 | 9,275
26 Sep 2023 #256
@gumishu,
Just because the fella's a Communist, doesn't mean he's Jewish! Were Stalin, Georgi Dimitrov, Tito, Ceaucescu or Kadar Jewish?
You're jumping to a false conclusion.
mafketis 36 | 10,788
26 Sep 2023 #257
No - still mostly Ukies and other Ex Soviets.

He said lots of south Asian looking people with suitcases... he couldn't imagine how they function in Poland or what they're doing... i mentioned that a lot are probably in factories (put 'factory job in Poland' into youtube and see).
Cargo pants 3 | 1,637
26 Sep 2023 #258
s this the case now and if so, when did this change happen?

Since they were selling visas:)
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
26 Sep 2023 #259
what are you trying to say

That PiS are stinking rightist hypocrites, as always.
Novichok 5 | 7,723
26 Sep 2023 #260
Pawian, my friend, be fair and admit that the elections were not "stolen" and that PiS was elected by your fellow citizens, not dropped off a Russian plane.

I often remind my fellow Americans that it was the American voters who placed this specimen in the WH.
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,171
26 Sep 2023 #261
@pawian
And I say they are smelly leftist handouts givers, who give money left and right for every possible reason they themselves or voters make up! Basically morally corrupting and erodung their own country for votes!

But they "sound" rightist to you! Oh No! The "horror"!

Do you prefer to give grades of 6 to students sleeping in your class? Tossing books at you? Demanding for you to buy them apples every morning to be placed at every pupils desk? Deserved or undeserved? Just becaouse the teacher used to get apples from his best/most ambitious students in the past? It's just luducrous I tell you! Political circus! That's what is is
jon357 74 | 21,817
26 Sep 2023 #262
rightist hypocrites

There's certainly a large element of that.

handouts givers, who give money

They certainly help the poor. If that is 'leftist', then 'leftism' should be the default position of every decent person.

Basically morally corrupting

Hard to know how.
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
27 Sep 2023 #263
Pawian, my friend, be fair and admit that the elections were not "stolen"

I can`t say it was stolen coz I am not Trump. hahaha

that PiS was elected by your fellow citizens, not dropped off a Russian plane.

Exactly. I called them homo sovieticuses and implied that Poland is still an Eastern European country. Pity but it is true.
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
28 Sep 2023 #264
New facts about PIS visa scandal. Now Indian story:

onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/szokujace-fakty-o-aferze-wizowej-obywatele-indii-opowiadaja-o-lapowkach/cszyd8h,79cfc278

New facts about the visa scandal. "The security of Poland and Europe placed in the hands of an intermediary from India"
Massive bribes and lack of reliable verification of people who wanted to enter Poland and the Schengen area. This is what the visa scandal in India was supposed to look like. The Indians and their Polish representative told us about the story behind the scenes. - Poland entrusted the security of its borders and the whole of Europe to an external company, VFS, which collected documents from those willing to travel in its nine offices in India. Polish consulates did not see people who were granted visas - Onet sources say.

- To be able to apply for a Polish visa, you first had to get to a meeting at VFS. The meeting was arranged for a bribe, for a huge amount for Indians, equivalent to approximately EUR 800 - say Indians who entered Poland

- Those who received work visas to Poland may have lost legs or have other disabilities that exclude them from various professions. The Polish consulate did not verify this because it had never seen these people in person. The first and last meeting took place at the VFS headquarters, adds the Polish representative of the Indians.

When asked by Onet about bribes, VFS assured that it only collected official fees. And when asked if it was true that their employees from India were detained by the police, they gave us evasive answers.

The Polish prosecutor's office is investigating the visa scandal. Our sources deny the narrative promoted by PiS that the scandal was small and limited to only 268 immigrants.

Thank you PIS!
Cargo pants 3 | 1,637
29 Sep 2023 #265
Now Indian story

LOL you trust that story???LOL I being one dont trust myself lol
Tell you what,if you deal with a ruski he will screw you and show you a finger,if you deal with an Hasidic he will screw you and will have nothing to do with you,and if you deal with an Indian he will screw you royally then will still keep on sweet talking with you till he drains your last drop of blood lol

Amen.
This scandal is way bigger then anyone knows involving US too,only the little guys are being punished.Indians are not even releasing the film,they are waiting for the elections then advertise the film"That rocked Poland?and make money off it lol.You watch!

You can go on youtube and see how many agencies are doing reklama for Polish immigration. BTW 800 Euros is nothing for them,Ive met Indians working on gas stations/stores who pay till 150k to come to States.The guy walking on the street there might look like a beggar but might own land worth millions in USD.
Novichok 5 | 7,723
29 Sep 2023 #266
Thank you PIS!

Poland is not a dictatorship and PiS is not a NAZI party. It's the system you and others voted for and decided to keep as was.
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
29 Sep 2023 #267
Poland is not a dictatorship

It isn`t a dictatorship like Russia or Belarus where the regime can do anything with and to citizens and nobody can stop it. Here, luckily, so many decent Poles oppose those rabid rightists that the latter can`t put millions in prisons, it is simply impossible, though they would like to. Secondly, we are in the EU which protects basic values in Poland. PiS is too weak to overwhelm this opposition but they are still trying. Decent Poles have to keep resisting coz if we give up, Europe will have another Russia within its borders.
Novichok 5 | 7,723
29 Sep 2023 #268
Did you notice...

It's the system you and others voted for and decided to keep as was.

The difference between us, Americans, is that we know our system is corrupt to the core, and that the voters are stupid beyond belief. Especially women.

You and other Euros are still playing your bootlicking games: Our democracy is wonderful except for those evil...fill in your favorite villain...

We call it living in denial.
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
29 Sep 2023 #269
we know our system is corrupt to the core, and that the voters are stupid beyond belief. Especially women.

Here most women are wiser than males and vote decently. As for stupid voters, they are here, too - mostly elderly people or uneducated or living in the countryside. They are easily brainwashed by state media propaganda.

Our democracy is wonderful except for those evil...fill in your favorite villain...

It is amassing to see/read your implying what others think or do. At the same time, you see red when I imply what you think and do. :):):)

We call it living in denial.

Exactly your attitude. hahahaha
Alien 18 | 4,763
29 Sep 2023 #270
most women

They should not vote for PiS because of the abortion law.


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