What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus?

@Bobko, I won't accuse you of "conspirological type thinking". Rather spreading misinformation.

Just like Putin......

The wall protecting Poland from Belarus regime`s migrants is a controvercial issue to scientists and conservationists. Beautiful minds who care about animals but completely disregard politics which plays a major role here.

187 kilometers of concrete, steel and barbed wire on the border divided the Polish and Belarusian forests. The wall interrupts ecological corridors, endangers animals and destroys protected areas. The wall is the Polish government's response to the migration crisis.

- What is happening in Podlasie is an international matter. The scientific community is concerned. Saying that it protects us from danger is a misunderstanding - said Radosław Ślusarczyk from the Workshop for All Beings in the "Talks about the end of the world" program.

According to Karolina Kuszlewicz, an environmental lawyer, the government's argument is very strong. At the same time, she noted that the Białowieża Forest, which is on the UNESCO World Heritage List, is of great value and under the pretext of building a wall, this valuable natural area is completely excluded from the control of society and scientists. - Joining this construction and, in my opinion, breaking EU law and not letting us know how the construction affects the state of nature, all this makes me terrified - added Kuszlewicz.

The guests of the program were also asked about footbridges for animals, which are supposed to be the answer to all the problems that scientists and experts talk about. - Ensuring that transitions are effective is not enough for me. The gate would be opened by border guards, and these are not naturalists - said Radosław Ślusarczyk. Added, that there are two institutes in Białowieża near the construction site and the outstanding scientists employed in them are not allowed to assess the effects of the construction of the wall. He also reported that there is a highway fence on the rivers, which also prevents animals from migrating.

It's the largest virgin forest in Europe. There shouldn't be a wall through it.

I wonder what possibilities there are to do it without this. Hard to think of any.

A barrier is needed. A barrier can't be built. This doesn't look to be an easy question to answer.

Yes. That is why the wall has to stay until Belarus breaks its toxic ties with Russia, develops a new democratic gov and becomes a European country.

Lol. Now Belarus is a real country too? I thought it was the 90th state of Russia?

Belarus announces visa free for Poles from anywhere in the world.
tass.com/world/1583343

It will only do that once it realizes the money train is over (the basic dynamic is that lukashenka dangles the offer of the 'union state' in front of putain in exchange for money and never delivers).

word is, that his recent trip to China was about assurances against russian expansionism.... supposedly China doesn't like russian claims against other countries (because the idea of redrawing borders opens up a bunch of pandora's boxes for china too)

Formally, it is still a seperate country, although it is so closely affiliated with Russia.


Yes. It will also break away when Russia disintegrates crushed under the lost war and sanctions.

Closing down the main border crossing with Belarus was a very good move. Belarus regime is getting more and more desperate. Lukashenka heard a few bitter words during his official visit to China because of.....


Now there are first signals Luka is thinking of striking a deal with Poland.

Polish authorities will be stupid if they don`t demand the following:

- release ALL political prisoners from regime`s prisons. Not only the ones of Polish origin but ALL.
- put an end to regime`s immigration business which means they import migrants (for hard cash) , then equip them and instruct how to illegally cross the Polish border.

We`ll see what matters more to the regime - dollars earned on illegal migrants or dollars earned from the trade through the closed border crossing.

Two Bela-Russian helicopters flew into Polish airspace. Polish military first denied the fact,

Doubts are multiplying around the Belarusian helicopters that appeared in the vicinity of Białowieża in the morning. - I am not able to say, I have no information, whether there could have been a violation of the airspace - said Lt. Col. Jacek Goryszewski in an interview with Interia. However, he firmly emphasized that the radars did not record anything alarming.

later, after seeing photos on the net. they admitted it, explaining:

However, in the message issued on Tuesday evening by the Ministry of National Defense, it was possible to read that " the border crossing took place in the Białowieża area at a very low altitude, making it difficult to detect by radar systems.".

Photos were taken by Polish locals standing nearly under the flying choppers:
PS. Amasing. Polish military under PiS azholes needs photos to make sure that enemy crossed the border.

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It looks like Belarus wishes to enter the EU and NATO fast. Very fast.

:):):) in figurative sense, yes.

Quite smart of them. Enter the EU and NATO without all the legal procedures, fulfilling membership conditions, and long waiting. :)

But only 2 choppers? What about the rest??

Of course, the Bel-Russian regime denies everything.

I would very seriously advise Belarus, The Wagner Group and even Russia to not even think about attacking Poland.They are failing in Ukraine and will suffer much more if they attack Poland.

Poland said on Tuesday it was rushing troops to its eastern border after accusing Belarus, Russia's closest ally, of violating its airspace with military helicopters.

WW3 on the horizon.

Don`t be infantile. :):) World wars aren`t started by two helicopters in a country`s airspace.

Pawian will be the one doing the executing...and lots of it

The target is PiS, they have been a catalyst for Ukrainian support in the EU, Germany and France were ready to throw Ukraine to the wolves. Once PiS are out of the way, the tide will turn in Russia's favour.

Their target is Poland and the other western liberal democracies who oppose russist autocracy and ultra-conservatism.

Nothing to do with PiS. PiS isn't Poland and Poland isn't PiS.

It was a conscious provocation by the Belrus regime.

The photos of the helicopters taken by locals and tourists, and the fact that the sun is shining on various parts of their hulls, indicate that the Belarusian helicopters were circling over Polish territory, and not just crossing the border for a moment. Belarusians also flew in such places as if they wanted to be photographed.

The preliminary analysis of the photos shows that the helicopters could have flown to a depth of up to 3 km into the territory of the Republic of Poland. Considering the fact that on the Belarusian side of the border there are no such compact buildings as in Białowieża, the Belarusian pilots must have known that they were in Polish airspace.

Finally, according to Onet, the helicopters hovered in the air at some point, and it happened at the point where until recently Polish military forces were stationed in Białowieża. This additionally indicates the conscious ostentation of Belarusians.

Some one with a MANpads should take it down given a chance or at the least some PK and put about 100 rounds into them ...

Do it then.

Where is famous Polish big balls?

I had no chance to do it.If you think I woudn't do it given a shot you don't know me.

The problem, is you are dealing with some weasels, the right kind of people rarely are in charge when needed.

No. Polish choppers violated Belarussian air space once too and they weren't shot down.

But now we are even, so the Potato Fuhrer should think twice before sending them again.

Guy is a clown and a joke. He is more irritating to us than you. We will deal with him.

Yes, keep him on a shorter leash, please. Things are developing in a rather interesting way in certain aspects, so we don't need this kind of antics.

hey he is our dear potato moose, and he annoys Putin big time :D

Accidental aircraft border crossing over that thick forest is normal. No need to be so trigger happy. Imagine a Polish chopper gets lost over Belrus territory. It happened in the past.