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What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus?


jon357 69 | 18,360
21 Nov 2021 #1,231
The cheaper solution is not always the best solution.

Exactly. There are several issues involved, including the law (domestic and international), logistical possibilities, human decency and public opinion within Poland and Germany. There's also the broader issue of Putin's ambitions and the risk of escalation.
Korvinus 1 | 234
21 Nov 2021 #1,232
Well it is act of war and should've been treated as such. Importing thousands of human shields to be rushed into Poland on gunpoint and arming them with tools to cross border is warfare. The Belarussian-abused migrant wave should've been greeted with barrage of missiles flying over their heads into Belarus military positions after which they could've laid claim on land of people who actually brought them into this **** situation.

See kids photographed on the border? Apparently there is no problem for them to be accepted in Poland along with their families:

tokfm.pl/Tokfm/7,103085,27824004,dzieci-uchodzcow-ktorych-zdjecia-obiegly-media-sa-juz-bezpieczne.html#s=BoxOpImg9

Taman, 6, and Zaman, 2.5, from Iraq, are now safe. These are children whose photos from the forest near the border were circulated in the media several days ago. As the TOK FM reporter established, the family - thanks to the support of the Granica Group - was placed in a center in Poland. They are waiting for a court decision in order to be able to leave the center and live in a place already prepared for them.

Makes one wonder why western/r*ssian journalists then photograph them all the time and call foul...
Novichok 1 | 5,101
21 Nov 2021 #1,233
Weaselspeak:

There are several issues involved, including the law

There's also the broader issue of Putin's ambitions and the risk of escalation.

Realmanspeak:

it is an act of war and should've been treated as such.

with tools to cross the border is warfare.

jon357 69 | 18,360
21 Nov 2021 #1,234
should've been treated as such.

It is.

Hence going all out not to escalate the situation.

barrage of missiles flying over their heads into Belarus military positions

There's a reason that armies don't do that.
Korvinus 1 | 234
21 Nov 2021 #1,235
There's a reason that armies don't do that.

No. You are just peacenik coward.
jon357 69 | 18,360
21 Nov 2021 #1,236
In that case, you're accusing the whole Polish Army of cowardice, since they are taking a measured and professional approach to the issue, avoiding escalation and staying within the law.
Crow 151 | 9,725
21 Nov 2021 #1,237
If Poland have instaled automatic robotic machine gun turrets problem wouldn`t exist.
jon357 69 | 18,360
21 Nov 2021 #1,238
robotic machine gun turrets

Poland is too decent for that, as well as caring about the law.

They are not genocidal Serbian war criminals.
Novichok 1 | 5,101
21 Nov 2021 #1,239
the whole Polish Army of cowardice, since they are taking a measured and professional approach to the issue,

Because the "issue" had only so many foreign scumbags. That "professional Polish Army" would act a lot less "professional" - meaning British-style scared - if the horde had 10 times the headcount and growing.

Why is it that the leftists always say only what we shouldn't be doing, and never what we should be? If they ever do, it's to show compassion - without limits, of course.
Crow 151 | 9,725
21 Nov 2021 #1,240
They are not genocidal Serbian war criminals.

Let me remind you that genocide was commited on Serbs and not vice versa. But considering papacy was behind genocide on Serbs some, like you, point at Serbs. Its easier.

Poland is too decent for that, as well as caring about the law.

Of course. Life is not simple like Hollywood movies suggest.

Much better for Poland to give up from EU. Let madness care for itself.
jon357 69 | 18,360
21 Nov 2021 #1,241
Let me remind you that genocide was commited on Serbs and not vice versa

Rubbish.

Much better for Poland to give up from EU

That's unlikely.

The most likely way forward is a unified response. At the moment though, things are a little way away from that.
Crow 151 | 9,725
21 Nov 2021 #1,242
That's unlikely.

That`s quite likely.

Look to what chaos sunk western Europe. Brussels burning like hell. You can hardly say who are bigger maniacs, police or people. Civilzation is so fragile there.

And there is no resource and energy sustainability. Slavic world have it all. Plus we are nice looking and mentally healthy.

Dobri moj Svetovide hvala ti što me čuvaš.
jon357 69 | 18,360
21 Nov 2021 #1,243
Brussels burning like hell

No it isn't.

Slavic world

No such thing. Poland is if anything a mix of I are looking and westward looking. As if Russia and the balk and don't exist.
johnny reb 31 | 6,262
21 Nov 2021 #1,244
Why is it that the leftists always say only what we shouldn't be doing, and never what we should be?

Perhaps joun could expand on your question, Rich, with more than a one-liner cop out that is.
Crow 151 | 9,725
21 Nov 2021 #1,245
Poland is if anything a mix of

You mistaken with this. Ask Poles do they see themslves as of mix. With every new day rift between Poland and western Europe is bigger.
jon357 69 | 18,360
21 Nov 2021 #1,246
Or even smaller. Whereas every day the gulf between Poland and Putin/Lukashenka and their soyuzniki grows exponentially.

Great that NATO allies are working together with Poland on the Belarus issue.
Novichok 1 | 5,101
21 Nov 2021 #1,247
with more than a one-liner cop out that is.

One-line cop-outs require no brains. "Be nice" - zero effort and it looks good.
Crow 151 | 9,725
21 Nov 2021 #1,248
@jon357

NATO? Are you serious? NATO is sold. hahah hahaha. NATO. What a joke. EU is a utter fiction.

Only logic of sustainability exist now in this world. For Poland its the Balkan-Baltic line. As Orban shows dirrection.

Just take pop-corn my dear and give it a some more time.

I am only glad that events prove my point more then I expected. Racowie to abandon Poland? No way.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 248
21 Nov 2021 #1,249
Some group that crossed border about week ago had been in luck. Resident of Sokółka watching some TV station that prezented those crminals as poor people mistreated by the Polish forces. Invited few of them for a meal. After they ate they closed her in the basemant and robbed her house.

Some other group on their way destroyed a roadside shrine in Kruglany near Kużnica.
jon357 69 | 18,360
21 Nov 2021 #1,250
Some links to reputable news sites would be useful for those unlikely stories.

Especially as nothing comes up on Google or Twitter.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,635
21 Nov 2021 #1,251
After they ate they closed her in the basemant and robbed her house.

I have heard another story....some mother after 1,5 months in the forest mixed milk powder with mud water to feed it to her baby, knowing that the dirty water would kill it but she did it nonetheless, because her baby was so hungry....of course it died...

No links either...
Cargo pants 3 | 1,247
21 Nov 2021 #1,252
After they ate they closed her in the basemant and robbed her house.

Some other group on their way destroyed a roadside shrine

What do you expect from Mooselimbs,freaking thankless breed.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 248
21 Nov 2021 #1,255
My is possible, even probable. Your are on them same level as some EU parlamentary that claim in Poland women are second class and here we have honour.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,635
21 Nov 2021 #1,256
Well....if the shoe fits.....you are ready to shoot them, now you balk at such a rumour?
Cojestdocholery 2 | 248
21 Nov 2021 #1,257
I don't, I don't care what some crazy women or EU liars say. I'm sad because our politicians are very sensitve to rumors.

They should run our country well not listen to some nosense.
jon357 69 | 18,360
21 Nov 2021 #1,258
My is possible

But is however made up.

Links to reputable sources, or forever be acknowledged as a liar with pants on fire.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,635
21 Nov 2021 #1,259
I don't care what some crazy women or EU liars say.

Sure you do......deep inside you are a softhearted pussy....hidden by a brutal loudmouth! :)

You would never shoot at unarmed civilians, it would really kill all that upright and honorable, christian image Poles prefer to have....in your own eyes and especially in the eyes of the world....and that is ultra important!
Cojestdocholery 2 | 248
21 Nov 2021 #1,260
But is however made up.

Its hearsay. It could be true. I believe it is true.

here we have honour.

killings.


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